Funny how putting pressure on these shit candidates to change is never the answer, you would rather just call voters names, great strategy that worked well in 2024.

It was people like ilceasar that gifted the presidency to Trump in 2024. People who didn't vote for the Dem even though they knew Trump would be worse, and are finding out just how much worse he is now.

All the centrist have is blaming the voters and the most vulnerable for their own weak candidates and policy. The 90’s are over, we will continue to lose if the party doesn’t modernize. We lose if we don’t bring everyone with us.

So vote against whoever you want in the primaries, but don't poison anyone for the general, and vote against the most evil yourself.

"Yes, you should sacrifice YOUR lives for MY good or you're a bad person" My gods people like you shouldn't be real but here you are. I won't, by the way. Change or I won't vote for you

How the fuck are you sacrificing your life by voting against Trump-ists ? If you pretend they're not magnitudes more evil than anyone else, you're obviously a troll or deluded.

"How does taking away your medically necessary care hurt you?" Are you for real

You seem to be a professional at not understanding the point. You're getting your care taken away NOW because people didn't vote for the woman who would not have taken away that care.

Newsom wants to take away that care EVEN MORE so what's your point again?

And you seem to not be able to understand, people are trying to make sure that doesn’t happen again but strong stating that the DNC should not pick another centrist candidate with wishy washy right leaning politics or likely people won’t vote for them.

I voted for Harris. But clearly trying to cater to the right is a bad strategy. And you can continue to blame the bad lefts who didn’t vote after we lose or we can do a better job getting a good candidate in the first place. Dems have to modernize or we lose

Or the candidate who wants to serve in high office could listen to their constituents and become a great candidate. Absurd to white wash candidates now, you help guarantee a lose by brushing these gaping hole under the rug and fingers crossed no one will notice how terrible this candidate is.

Point it out all you like, just don't follow through on a promise to never vote for the person in the general. Even if you are making a false promise and intend to hold your nose and vote against the Republican fascist candidate in 2028, don't try to convince others not to vote.

Gavin throwing trans people under the bus is fascist. So we shouldn’t put him up for the general, because he will lose.

Not just him throwing trans people under the bus but also him personally destroying what few possessions the homeless have in California is also fascist.

Well, it isn’t, because currently it is 2025, not 2028, so your entire argument is moot.

"I will never vote for Gavin Newsom" they said. 2028 is part of "never", right ?

Dems: "BUT NEWSOM!" Left: "pick someone better" Dems: "BUT IT'LL BE NEWSOM!" Left: "not if we pick someone better" Dems: "BUT NEWSOMS THE BEST WE GOT" Left: "he's not even the top 10." Dems: "YOU LEFTIES ARE JUST AWFUL!" Get bent and throw your support to someone better

At east stage, vote for the best option. Campaign for the best option. If you deliberately don't vote because none of them are perfect, well, that's how you get where we're at now. Thanks for that.

You get where we're at by constantly settling for the lesser of two evils and ignoring criticisms when Dems fuck around with fascism. We have 3 years to pick someone better, not settle for the monster who agrees with right wing transphobic rhetoric and destroys homeless encampments for fun.

Pick someone better. Then pick the best of the two options you have in 2028. That's it.

The left is telling every lib and dem now, if it's Newsom, it's a losing vote, because none of us are going to vote for a transphobe on either side. So we will primary someone better, or we all lose.

Yeah, I'm not with the "all lose" plan.

Then let's make sure not have Newsom as the candidate for 2028.

Get fucked. You're not a serious or good person because you'll gladly throw trans people under bus.

There are only two buses, and instead of getting on the best one, you're standing in the middle of the road, deliberately getting run over by the worst one, and you think that's smart.