To take your own logic to its conclusion, what did Israel expect? Look I understand you're on the same side as most of us but you're splitting hairs
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I think that's fair honestly. My only issue here is the widespread conflation of Hamas with Palestinian resistance and the willingness to ignore when Hamas works against other Palestinian liberation groups. I would be willing to argue that Hamas and the IDF have a beneficial relationship, frankly.
jul 23, 2025, 8:35 pm • 1 0 • view
hamas is the only group resisting israeli occupation left, if you don't like that ask why the IDF funded them
jul 23, 2025, 8:43 pm • 7 0 • view
I would agree with you up until the march of return
jul 23, 2025, 8:37 pm • 2 0 • view
And that might sound strange at first, but keep in mind how Hamas went about on the 7th, what targets it choose, and that its leader outright stated that civilian casualties benefit the group.
jul 23, 2025, 8:37 pm • 0 0 • view
if that's true why were only 2/3 of the casualties that day civilians, a far better ratio of military targets to civilians than the IDF or united states ever achieve from the air? they targeted military bases, checkpoints and police stations
jul 23, 2025, 8:51 pm • 5 0 • view
not to mention a number of those civilian casualties were the IDF catching people on the crossfire
jul 23, 2025, 8:51 pm • 4 0 • view
I mean this is a pretty damning statistic in isolation Israel has killed way more Americans than Hamas too
jul 23, 2025, 11:02 pm • 2 0 • view
and they've definitely killed more of the hostages than hamas has.
jul 23, 2025, 11:36 pm • 2 0 • view
Hostages were the goal more so than sheer deaths. The incursion was also more successful than they could have ever anticipated!
jul 23, 2025, 8:38 pm • 3 0 • view
probably because the IDF knew it was coming and allowed it to happen or do people think this whole thing was staged in one of the most heavily surveiled strips of land on earth with no one noticing boats and paragliders being assembled and deployed?
jul 23, 2025, 8:46 pm • 3 0 • view
The most charitable explanation is that literally they were pulling focus to shift soldiers to the WB to protect settler lynch mobs
jul 23, 2025, 8:47 pm • 2 0 • view