And referring to the candidate is relevant when trying to portray Dem voters as thinking everything was a-o.k. ….. it clearly wasn’t and people clearly didn’t think it was

what with the candidate being the thing voters actually vote for …. Apologies that I didn’t realise every last bit needed to be spelled out …

I accept your apology.

Simpler version: people seemed excited about a Black woman candidate because things in the US are not at all ok for Black people nor, increasingly, are they ok for women, and are particularly bad for the combination… That’s obviously incompatible with the claim that people thought everything ok

Yes, on paper she was an exciting candidate. In reality, she ran a poor campaign. I won't deny that racism and misogyny played a part, but they aren't the only factors.

Sorry I don’t understand this reply. The exchange wasn’t about whether she ran a good campaign - it was about the claim that Harris supporters thought everything ok prior to Trump. They clearly did not …

That's ok, I bet you don't understand lots of stuff. SitcomReality appears to be pointing out that Blue MAGA tried to revise history after the election. You are talking about attitudes BEFORE the election. So you two are talking at cross purposes, and I am not interested in mediating your convo.

We really aren’t - I am making the point that it’s clear nobody believed “everything was ok” before Trump was elected which makes his claim wildly implausible