This is relatively small potatoes all things considered, but I keep wondering: how are we ever going to host the 2028 Olympics in an environment like this?
This is relatively small potatoes all things considered, but I keep wondering: how are we ever going to host the 2028 Olympics in an environment like this?
And the World Cup in 2026!
Months ago when #ICE started #kidnapping and disappearing people, I said to my husband, I bet the #WorldCup and the #Olympics will be moved elsewhere. I believe we'll even be sanctioned from participating due to #trumps #CrimesAgainstHumanity. #ICE and DHHS is #OutOfControl. #ICC #NATO #signalchat
The US is supposed to host the World Cup *next year* alongside Canadá and México.......
If Berlin could host the Olympics in '36... I feel like this is less of a stretch than it at first appears Which kind of fits because when I look around it looks an awful lot like Berlin 1932 around here. Now if you'll excuse me I need to renovate my attic and learn to operate a ham radio.
World Cup is more immediate problem. Empty stands be bad.
Or World Cup? I will say it again, Fifa should yank the event from us OR fans boycott and support Canada 🇨🇦 and Mexico 🇲🇽
Today I saw a car hoisting a “TRUMP WON!” flag that was larger than the car. Covered in hateful stickers. It’s going to take a long time to dig out of this. There’s no way in hell I’d visit this shit hole country since he took over. If I could leave, I would.
Honestly, we shouldn’t. I hate to say I hope the world boycotts. Otherwise, hosting a huge celebration of international cooperation under Trump would validate Trump’s place in that scheme.
100% this ^^
You are EXACTLY RIGHT!!
It’ll probably be some tacky faux gilded shit. 😒
Lol good luck expecting anything from fifa scum or football fan morons and footballer imbeciles. I mean they went and played in Qatar just fine, and all those in media that grandstanded about human rights abuses,slavery in Qatar went there to get paid. Neoliberalism ruined everything,
Will be like the Olympics in Nazi Germany or the Winter Olympics in Russia just before the invasion to Georgia.
I mistook the games of Sochi instead of the Olympics in Beijing, but Russia also waited after the Olympics in Sochi to attack Ukraine.
Beijing (2022) and Sochi (2014 - Putin invaded Ukraine/Crimea during the games) are examples of how the IOC governance prioritizes revenues over political stability, safety and humanity. Trump will make sure the games are held, at all cost.
I hope they'll take it away from us/him.
No way we should. It's embarrassing
And the semiquincentennial, the nation’s 250th birthday.
I know @awalkerinla.bsky.social probably has some thoughts about this...
Already replied lol
I knew you had it covered!
It's actually a huge deal! The World Cup is next year. There's a Club World Cup tournament in the U.S. next month!
Just because it’s your personal focus doesn’t mean it’s amongst the top 25 problems in the US right now
You're awfully optimistic that 2028 will even arrive.
Who's gonna come?
We aren’t going to host them! No one is going to stage Olympic Games in a war torn country. And that’s very likely what we’re going to be by 2028! Unless we simply lay down and accept the fucking Shitler and the treasonous Ratpublicans have planned for us and the nation! I will remain standing!
Wonder how many visitors will end up in a totaly different country after trying to go through passport control on arrival
I can see it in my mind. We will be Berlin, 1936.
Hitler pulled it off back in the day
I think it’ll be wild if during the football stuff they start arresting a lot of visitors. Or maybe visitors will come together and protest in our stadiums?
And World Cup. What a clusterfuck disaster. I would be none shocked to see both of those events boycotted by numerous nations. To the point they may not actually happen.
I bet if Paris started today they could be ready for the 2028 games
Great question. I feel confident in saying that somehow Donny will win gold in golf though.
And the 2026 World Cup!
Even more immediate, the Club World Cup and Gold Cup this summer. Club WC will have teams & (theoretically) fans from Central & South America, Africa & Middle East. Gold Cup is all Central & South America + guests Saudi Arabia. I can't see people from those places feeling safe coming to the US.
With visitors and athletes risking getting detained and deported? You can't. Both FIFA and IOC need to tell Trump to stop the detaining and deportations now, or they will relocate, for the safety of their athletes an visitors.
The World Cup is being hosted in Dem cities nested in terrible Republican states
WE ARE GOING BACK TO THE MOON, BABY
@chrislhayes.bsky.social The Olympics will have to be cancelled. No decent nation would want to send their best athletes to a nation who can't respect other nations.
Hitler might like to address this point. Just saying… ✌️
Hitler did it.
Yeah how is it not cancelled yet 🫢
on the bright side it would be amazing if the absolute shit show of the olympics finally breaks it
The la28 segment of last year's closing ceremony was an affront to taste.
You Mean The [insert new name here] Games?
I think if the situation continues on this trajectory, some teams just won't come. It won't be safe for the athletes, their families or fans. Even if the teams do get reassurances that their athletes won't be harassed, international tourists won't come to see the games.
Boycott.
No foreigner in their right mind would set foot here!
Also, FIFA World Cup? Seriously—Trump is supposedly the one in charge of the planning! How’s that gonna work?
So…many people bought tickets already! Are they going to arrest people as they come off the planes? www.fifa.com/en/tournamen...
On the bright side, the U.S. could win all the gold if it's strongest opponents are all in a Salvadoran gulag.
You cunts can't think a minute into the future when all you're thinking about is Biden speech pauses and a left-wing Joe Rogan. You are dead set fucked.
I've thought about that, too, I think it will be boycott by lots of countries. When we said we didnt want it coming to LA this is not what we meant!
Hell, isn’t the World Cup next year?
I’m hoping that most countries boycott the Olympics.
It is not at all certain at this point that under three more years of Trump the US will still be a going concern to even host the Olympics.
you mean you mean trump take olympics?
Watch “The Boys in the Boat” for a look at a fascist hosted olympics
I just saw a news brief that Korean climbers had their visas revoked for no reason and won't be able to enter for a championship.
There's no way foreign nationals should travel here for the World Cup or Olympics. I think they should relocate both to France, which could probably pick up from 2024 and do it again.
World Cup 2026 is USA, Canada, and Mexico. They should just cut USA out of it on. Have it be Canada and Mexico only.
Not only is it happening, we're probably paying for FIFA's security and shit
They held it in Nazi Germany. Sigh...
I hope that they ditch us.
Do you want the 2028 Olympics to be successful, like the 1936 Olympics in Berlin? So that people can keep pretending things aren't so bad after all?
Right!?!?!
I've seen a reporter say that in Russia, compared to previous trips for UEFA competition matches, he felt the cops were ordered to not get on people's faces for no reason, but was legitimately concerned about going to the US as Trump is not concerned about projecting normality, quite the opposite.
We're not?
I live in the KC metro area and we’re spending lots of money preparing for the World Cup next year. I’m thinking it may be a bust.
also: how do we get control back, ever? does ANYONE seriously believe these people will leave willingly? not even non-maga republicans believe that
Easier to win all the medals if you detain all the other countries’ athletes
Front row seats to a burning empire! Once in a generation opportunity.
…im wondering about NHL season next year
Oooooh don’t give me hope for blatant acts of defiance from progressive countries!
Like Qatar
Just like they did in 1936.
I mean the nazis did it so im sure we will find a way.
We don't. If the IOC has any sense they'll just cancel it.
Everyone else ought to boycott
I have the answer, but you won’t like it.
World Cup is next year! I don’t even want to think how disastrous that will be.
we gonna have one of those olympic years that’s got a lot of asterisks
Gonna make Berlin in 1936 look like Nagano.
They tell me that the WONDERFUL TORCH RELAY was started in the 1936 Olympics. Terrific really. It's going to be something else, the likes of which NOBODY'S EVER SEEN. We're going to be WINNING so many gold medals. THEY LOVE THE GOLD!
if i have to unduly see his ugly fucking face again i'm citing you as my 13th reason why
He will figure out a way to get his mug onto every "comemerative" merch etc. with the World Cup and Olympics. Two organizations, not exactly known for their lack of corruption.
Olympic's? What about the World Cup, hosting together with our BFF's Canada and Mexico? 🤔🤯🤯🤯😱
The last time the Olympics were held in the u.s was during a notably 'chiller' time to be alive and that shit still got blown up.
1936 Berlin Olympics have entered the conversation
We can't. I hope the Olympic Committee decides to pull out.
$$$$$ Not a chance
Not if no one wants to show up.
The athletes have trained their entire lives for this. They won't voluntarily bail.
Let alone cohosting the World Cup.
Oh I can just see him sitting in a special royal box in the stadium and everyone has to goose step in front of him. He will look just like Adolf
The same way autocratic countries from Mexico (1968) to Beijing (2008), to Berlin (1936) have?
Gonna be Orban and Bolsonaro sitting in an empty stadium.
I’m thinking boycott.
Not even the Olympics! World Cup is next year and *multiple teams and fans* will be required to travel between the US, Mexico and Canada!
Probably the same way Russia held the Winter Olympics, and I’m not joking. Okay I am but I’m also serious.
Or fifa 2026
They are all going to boycott it!
There could be a lot of boycotts so who knows. The way the Republican government is behaving it could just be the Tyrant Games.
The 2026 World Cup will be a test
I mean...the nazis did it
Putin did. It's not that hard.
The answer is - we won’t be.
Or the World Cup 2026
Violently
I hope the world boycotts the Olympics.
For the 2028 Olympics, America will be treated the same way it and many other nations treated the Soviet Union in 1980 for the Moscow Olympics... with boycotts!
I wouldn’t go to our country. I already feel held hostage by a bunch of lunatics
The thing that’s gonna do it is the World Cup likely being a total disaster next year There will of course be moral/ethical/geopolitical arguments ready that the US shouldn’t host either event, but screwing up the world’s biggest event would be the thing to do it
The last time I looked at the World Cup Soccer demographic -- both fan *and* participant: they're all highly likely to get grabbed, gulaged, and disappeared under the current setup...
We shouldn't.
Remember the halcyon days of worrying about whether the Olympians had enough condoms?
I say this as someone who loves this country and wants it to be saved: I think it would be great if somehow the World Cup and the Olympics were moved or boycotted. ANYTHING that might wake up the percentage of Americans sleeping through this.
Do you think some countries will boycott?
Or World Cup in 2026.
Hitler hosted the 1936 Olympics and that was actually more welcoming to foreigners than we’re likely to be.
Suddenly part of Magneto Testament by @gregpak.net floats to my mind.
Wow! That's a pretty scary fact, isn't it? Sigh.
They tell me that the WONDERFUL TORCH RELAY was started in the 1936 Olympics. Terrific really. It's going to be something else, the likes of which NOBODY'S EVER SEEN. We're going to be WINNING so many gold medals. THEY LOVE THE GOLD!
The World Cup will be the canary in the cave. How will this administration handle 6M new tourist visas? They can't even do the basics, and all the best employees have been fired/demoralized. Then they gotta do it again in 2028 with 12M+: www.latimes.com/sports/story...
World Pride Next Month
And really it’s starting now
For fuck’s sake, nobody should come. Stay home.
Yup. I think it will be a real problem.
The World Cup is also being held in Canada and Mexico so… they can cut us out.
As a Vancouver resident - I am wondering if we might be getting a few more games....
Fifa is as corrupt as gop scum if more. And footballers are mostly imbeciles so they will play for $ anywhere. Its up to fans but given that US has more than enough share of morons it will be just fine.
Or the US Open 🎾 this coming September…
Yeah, Russia, Qatar, Hitler, all hosted huge sporting events, and everyone went...
We’ll be lucky if the rest of the world doesn’t boycott the Olympics. We are a rogue nation that ignores the rule of law, international law and human rights.
I’m betting there is going to be an emergency meeting and the World Cup is going to be moved. As for the Olympics I’m betting the only countries that attend are Russia, Israel, North Korea, and Iran. You know the villains of the piece.
We have the Club World Cup happening this year and the World Cup next year, so we've got problems coming even sooner than that.
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That's more than 3 years down the road. I think it's impossible to predict where things will be that far off. Lest we forget, this regime has only been in place for a little over 4 months.
It will just be Americans competing. (Talking you were born here, mom and dad were, granny, gramps, great grands) oh and maybe have to be white. We nay not win any speed events though.
A lot of countries will boycott it.
I’m not worried about the Olympics. I’m sure France will host them once the US economy collapses.
We should lose it.
Spirit of 1936, baby!
Or the World Cup next year?
Who would want to come?!
It's gonna be a disaster and the people causing it will praise themselves endlessly for doing so.
I mean, I bet countries will begin boycotting.
Hard to imagine.
Well, you know, Nazi Germany was able to do it in the '30s.
Ya ..... That's gonna be a mess.
Let’s see how the World Cup goes…empty stadiums I’m going to guess because who in their right mind risks deportation or imprisonment by goons to travel to USA right now? Especially from many nations that are openly targets for Trump’s deranged policies.
There is no way.😳
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I'm concerned about the World Cup. I work in the entertainment industry & we've all been looking forward to the game we're hosting in Atlanta & all the work that comes around it for a long time, but who is going to want to come here?
Yeah I feel like the IOC must be nervous as heck right now, right?
Yeah we cannot
SO. MANY. BOYCOTTS!
They need to take the Olympics away from us, like now.
Agreed. Something is going to go very wrong somewhere along the way and all fingers will point to trump.
Everything Everywhere All at once is going wrong
And the World Cup next year!
Ben, there are too many potatoes.
We share a World Cup with you next year and we are....not thrilled.
I suppose making it known there's a coin flip on every athlete, coach, supporter and fan who shows up getting sold into slavery is one way to rack up American wins
I think they should boycott
FIFA and the IOC should start considering other places tbh. Wayyy too much of a shit show here. 😭
Corporate greed didn't really think this all the way through
I don’t think that q is small potatoes. We’re only one country on this planet - sure, we’re a bully, but the rest of the world have our number. I expect, without dems regaining the house in 2026, the Olympics will either not happen, or be moved.
Just because we can host the Olympics doesn’t mean anyone will show up.
would be the ultimate middle finger if most countries pulled out due to tariffs and/or an unsafe travel environment due to illegal kidnappings and deportations, get the olympics cancelled
You're not
How did Berlin manage to in 1936?
Not well. And on top of national politics a recent reactionary swing in local Los Angeles elections isn't helping
People are ignoring that sufficiently powerful "AI" (aka surveillance systems and propaganda engines) can allow these people to win forever. We have 1-2 years to save the future of humanity and get the moral arc of the universe back on track. We should not be fighting over dumb shit.
Imagine all the athletes traveling here to kick our fascist asses and win gold.
Trumpists aren't going to tolerate any kind of Jesse Owens moments, I suspect.
I am a climber and avid climbing World Cup watcher. The Korean athletes who were competing at the World Cup in Salt Lake City had their visas denied right before their trip and almost had to miss the competition. They were able to enter eventually but these situations are already happening 😭
I was wondering the same thing, are people even going to want to come here without being afraid of being deported for some shady reason.
You need to get over it. It's not happening. And if it does, it will be the most humiliating event in human history. Not like this.
Tim may I introduce you to the IOC
We’re not. Unless this government is turned back, there’s no way the games will happen.
I truly don’t know how the World Cup and the Olympics will work.
They need to start the relocation process immediately
We’ll one up the 1936 Berlin Olympics for sure.
Wasn't one of the stipulations for Olympics that he wasn't a fucking shitbag? And we all assured IOC that he'd be in check? What happened with that?
The Berlin Games all over again?
It will be a clusterfuck to put it mildly.
They should move it now. South Africa?
I keep saying US citizens should contact FIFA and the IOC asking them to relocate. It is not safe for citizens or anyone with legal status. Any visitors are not safe as we have demonstrated. This would be hardcore resistance. Short term pain for long term good.
Maybe he’ll be impeached by then?
Germany did it in 1936.
😬
I know I know.
It’s not small ans I’ve been asking this since the end of January. And the World Cup?
I hope they all boycott.
Well if there's anything more corrupt and venal than the Trump administration, it's FIFA. It's just a question of who rips off who the most.
Same way Hitler did. The US and Germany will go down in history as fascist Olympics hosts. Congratulations.
With any luck we don't
It's gonna be TERRIFIC, believe me. Did you know the torch relay was started in 1936 for the Berlin Olympics? People LOVE the FIRE.
The semiquincentennial is the one that gets me. It’s going to be like May Day in Red Square.
That thought has been gnawing at me!🤬
And by the way, not for nothing but as unwelcoming as America is right now broadly speaking, the city of Los Angeles, where I live, is specifically struggling logistically. Those fires were not that long ago and we have *a lot* of other problems too. Our infrastructure is / will not be not ready.
lot of
Yeah no one is coming for the world cup in 2026. I have repeatedly told colleagues in other countries to stay away until something changes. It is simply not worth the possibility of being detained over calling trump names online.
We can’t
and world cup next year, should be taken off USA to not allow countries with no human rights and despicable governments to host it, oh wait Quata and Russia hosted it recently, Fifa you should be ashamed of yourselves what's next Gaza!
How are we ever going to host the FIFA Club World Cup NEXT FREAKING MONTH in an environment like this?!
I don't care whether it's the World Cup in 2026 or Olympics in 2028, I just want to be clear that if our ATC system crashes the Argentinian team's plane with no hope of rescue, I will not hold them responsible for eating Republicans in order to survive.
Which city won? We can probably swap them with a city in like Nicaragua, pretty sure Nica could handle the Olympics
They said the same thing about Woodstock. Glorious chaos in the sun & rain! “It’s going to be a holocaust!” And that was the good news.🤗 (PS—Just for the record I wasn’t there. Not even my parents were there. But they wanted to be🥰)
Or World Cup
Foreigners would have to be insane to visit this fascist rogue state.
Still can’t believe this is our beloved country. This is AWFUL. 😣
World Cup is *next year*
Funny looking handcuffs 😟
is that a Russian olympic bear? I had one of those a million years ago!
Me too!
Same! Had forgotten about that guy.
as a footy fan, I keep thinking about this
Ah yes, the World Cup, a sporting event that had famously never taken place in a problematic country that treats migrants horribly
The issue is will teams feel safe travelling to the country or will they back out entirely over fear of players being sent to El Salvador. They don't care about general treatment of migrants but they care about the team's ability to travel without risking prison.
Wait until you find out about the Olympics!
The difference is those other countries are at least semi smart about their evil. The people in charge of this country are fucking idiots
By 2028, California is either a Canadian province and/or Popeking For Eternity Donald Jehovah Trump I has walled it off like Escape From LA. Either way, IOC don't give a fuck as long as the check clears.
Olympics? World Cup is gonna be a complete shitshow.
They already held the World Cup in Qatar and Olympics in Russia, so long as LA manages to kludge together enough facilities it will probably go through with some short-term controversies nobody thinks about a year later.
I feel like the ICE shenanigans will end up solving it for us when the rest of the world skips the US
I've accepted that, for all practical purposes, the US will not recover within my probable lifetime. It is quite possible it will never recover. All I can do is remember: People plant trees knowing they will not live to see them bear fruit.
OTOH, Canada us not that far a drive.
Germany was fine within twenty years, and two generations were dead and the entire nation was bombed to bits. Same with Japan. Unless you're a lot closer to death than I assume, "not in my lifetime" is needlessly pessimistic.
Here's the unfortunate thing - perhaps part of the reason they were able to recover so fast is that these people were killed in or around the war. Lots of important Nazis were killed - we're going to still have MAGA for the rest of our lifetimes and beyond.
Ooof. That's gonna leave a mark.
To be clear, I'm not suggesting anything. I think it's simply descriptive. We need to really focus on somehow converting large sections of MAGA out of the cult. I'm not sure how to do it, but I think it's the only real way out of this. Maybe only possible once Trump dies of old age.
(To be honest, I don't think violence would be productive anyway. I truly wasn't trying to suggest that. I think, if anything, it'd probably give justification for MAGA to intensify their current authoritarian push and things would get dramatically worse for people, especially minorities)
Exactly. And we won't be trusted again by our former allies until it is clear MAGAism is a spent force. So before things can "recover" we need MAGAism to be dead *and* be dead long enough that others can reasonably it really is dead. Gonna be way more than 20 years.
For all the good it did. Nazism is on its way back in Germany with the AfD (no matter how much they try to rationalize it otherwise), so much so that they came in second in the recent election, forcing the other parties to try and work around them to avoid letting them into government. (For now.)
Not if we arrest and prosecute them & for some of the highest level criminals, execution following conviction at trial.
I would worry about people becoming martyrs to be honest. I'm also against killing. I think we need to look at dismantling the right wing alternative reality/media ecosystem. That might provide a pathway to bring people back into sanity from the cult of Trump/MAGA. No idea how to do that though.
That’s because the U.S. came in with dump trucks full of money to get German capitalism going again to thwart the Soviets Which country would come in to resuscitate this evil empire after we’ve collapsed? Who would want to?
The day I realized that trump was the front runner and would likely be elected I told my husband "Our grandkids will have to clean this up" This time I said "scratch that, our great grandkids will have to clean it up now".
The oldest is 12. I believe THEIR children will have to put it back together. I'm terrified for my oldest grandson because in 6 years he could be drafted and think what a mess things will still be.
Average life exp. is 77. I’m 60. Math ain’t good.
That's at birth; you're expected to live to 82.
(disclaimer: I'm not an actuary)
A big part of why they were "fine within 20 years" is precisely *because* two generations were dead and the entire nation was bombed to bits. It both killed a lot of the bad people and made it very clear what the consequences of following the bad people and the bad people's ideology were. 1/
This is what I came to say. It precisely because Germany and Japan were so utterly decimated that they were able to move forward so quickly.
and because there was a united states both willing and able to give them a hand up toward representative democracy after the bombing was over
who will create a marshall plan for the us once we've ditched the neoconfederates and fascists?
It's terrifying to realize it is a *bad* thing no one has the power to force the US into compliance with the same basic liberal democratic norms it once championed (if only for its own purposes). The only nations which might arguably have that power are antithetical to such norms.
MAGAism is going to have to be dead and gone (which itself will take years) for a sufficiently long time for our former allies to be willing to believe it is gone before they'll trust us again. 2/
And that's assuming the current fuckery hasn't led to a permanently changed equilibrium state. So I don't think >20 years is pessimistic at all. 3/3
I think 20 years is optimistic. Germany and Japan recovered because the US rebuilt them to serve as a sacrifice to stop the USSR. Nobody is gonna want to rebuild the US. I think Recovery in 50 years is probably optimistic.
West Germany or...?
Immigration agency will have to start employing more people to check visitors phones on arrival
Burner phone business will boom though!
I’m also wondering how we can host the World Cup next year. This is not a safe environment to visit.
Gotta believe that at some point Paris and London will look around and say “Ya know, we still got all this stuff. We could do this again”.
I can't imagine how Canada could participate. I wish we'd hear something about the discussions they must be having. Those athletes have to be making plans NOW. 😬
We’re not going to be able to, at least not effectively, and organizers in LA have been pointing out for almost a decade that it’s a terrible idea for us to host them
Can't lose a medal if you deport the other competitors.
And who is still going to want to come?