The question was "every." Every means "every one, without exceptions." Is your answer yes or no?

@quackometer.bsky.social

Conditions which result in a bimodal distribution...

Of what?

Of your "we can just look at their sexually dimorphic traits and identify what sex they are" argument.

You are making no sense. What is the bimodal distribution a distribution of? What measurement?

Every person who makes the claim that "Sex is a bimodal distribution" is never able to actual say what it is a bimodal distribution of. That is because the people who make such a claim are incapable of independent thought.

Sex *has* a bimodal distribution. It *is* a bimodal variable.

1. Please tell me how to measure this variable. 2. For bonus points, show a peer reviewed paper where a biologist has measured this variable *for real* in a population and a bimodal distribution of sex has resulted. 3. If you cannot do this, would you reconsider your position?

How you measure it depends on what purpose you're determining it for. (And I already linked you one. Would you like another?)

The purpose is to show sex forms a bimodal distribution when measured and plotted. Can you show anyone who has ever done this with real data? Or is it just ideological stupidity?

I think you are imagining a one-dimensional variable that has two modes, which is a simple case of something being "bimodal", but not its definition. Bimodal just means having two modes. Those modes could be in conceptually 1-dimensional or N-dimensional, qualitative or quantitative.

Yeah, tons of them. I already have. But there are thousands of sex-linked traits, so . . . which ones would you like to see plotted?

hey quick question what's your background in biology

Vast. What's yours?

Then why can't you read a paper?

"vast" is non-responsive. i want specifics. also i have no background at all i don't give much of a shit about biology beyond my own personal interest in mine continuing to function, and occasionally when TERFs use it as a weapon.

Actually, in some species of bird, it’s not even bimodal. White-throated sparrows have four peaks, ruffs have five…

Show the graphs with the peaks please.

First, how ‘bout you show the other person in the thread supposedly agreeing with you? I’m pretty sure you’re gonna come up with a reason why anything I show you doesn’t count, but I promise that if you have a non-imaginary friend in the thread, I’ll acknowledge it.

... awfully loud crickets around here

(Although research on ruffs has only just shown the fifth, and the faeder males are about 1% of the population, so I don’t know how that affects the distribution—three big peaks and a small one?

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Thank you for closing that ❤️

You might need to help quackometer out -- it seems like she needs a picture.

Yes. I would love an actual chart that shows all these peaks. Note: we will not get one.

You haven't demonstrated that yet unless getting basic facts wrong and making clearly erroneous conclusions is... independent thought

Of sex.

And how do I measure "sex" to plot a graph that results in a bimodal distribution. For example, you might claim height in humans is bimodal. You could measure height with a tape measure from the floor to the top of the head when upright.

When you plot that, you can argue the resultant statistical distribution is bimodal. But how do you measure "sex" so that a bimodal distribution emerges? I await with much anticipation.

By measuring various sex-linked traits and graphing how many members have how many, and which, traits.

Be specific. Show an actual example of someone doing this. Otherwise it is just handwaving bullshit. And there has been enough of that from you.

I already did. It was a survey paper that looked at a lot of different studies, even. Remember?

There was no plotted data in that paper. That was a dishonest posting.

Because they're using big words that weren't in the primers you've read. You've demonstrated 2 things: you've read on the subject and that you have focused to the exclusion on one viewpoint and actually don't even know enough biology to hold a discussion

Have you posted in the right thread?

I mean..I pegged you, right?