The only people who benefit from this are autogynephiles. That is not a legitimate basis for providing segregated spaces.
The only people who benefit from this are autogynephiles. That is not a legitimate basis for providing segregated spaces.
I see quite a bit of benefit for protecting spaces on the benefit of gender identity. Is that why you didn't answer my question? And why are you still engaging in bad faith when you still haven't provided those stats?
How, exactly, does anyone benefit from a shared space with fully enclosed bathroom stalls that lock?
So no more men's and women's bathrooms? Everyone shares a single space, or are you proposing more unisex and family lavatories? It's been days, and you haven't grown tired of being wrong. I can't decide if that's impressive or stupid.
The cognitive dissonance in saying we don’t need segregated spaces while telling trans people they should go to a “third space” is breathtaking. Days crusading for “two binary sexes,” and then you shake off the real-world complications of your position like it’s nothing. bsky.app/profile/quac...
As I repeat, the conflicting directives meant to be ruthlessly enforced by people enabled with pretty wide discretion aren't a bug, it's a feature. The primary goal of this mess is to create a system flat-out impossible to navigate for trans people to push them out of society.
The secondary goals of this mess are to make the system hazardous for gender non-conforming people and to create systemic burden for most people, then blame trans people for the friction in order to push non-hateful people to embrace genocidal transphobia as a way to escape bureaucratic bullshit.
I really want to know what these TERFs are doing in bathrooms where they think trans people are somehow a threat to vulnerable people in a state of partial nudity. Are the TERFs running around in the common spaces undressed or something? Because the partial undress is usually in a locked stall.
Do you happen to remember the "menstrual blood is a biohazard" discourse in the other place? That one had a very similar problem.
What, seriously? Someone offered that as a justification? Is it solely toxic to men or something?
I might be able to find the origin if you're desperate. It was so incredibly stupid.
Oh god I had forgotten about that...
Sorry. It was a whole lot of "Not only are you wrong, but why the hell is this coming up in the first place? What the hell are you even doing in these bathrooms?!"
Right?!?!
“Prisons” is also my favorite for its naked disingenuousness. No one who is actually concerned (or even passingly familiar) with health and safety in the prison system has “trans invaders” anywhere in their top thousand priorities.
Then there's the "locker room" nonsense. There is no locker room I have ever been in, anywhere, where there was not at least two or three separate changing spaces available. And exactly zero trans women are running around in locker rooms naked unless they've had sex reassignment surgery.
I actually asked my middle school daughter how she’d feel about sharing a changing room with a trans girl. She said it would make her uncomfortable, but she “wouldn’t freak out or anything”.
She also added that if she didn’t want to change around that person, there are curtained off areas that a lot of girls use anyway.
When we were living in Munich, most places just had huge open general locker rooms. There were cubes, almost like retail changing rooms, taking up most of the space. It was great when you needed to deal with little kids.
Most people used the cubes, but some of the older folks would change in the open in front of the lockers. The saunas were mandatory clothing-free and mixed gender, so briefly flashing the locker room was no big deal.