Not at all I think taking up phones is just treating the symptoms of a broken and grossly underfunded system
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Taking up phones is treating the symptoms of kids using phones in class, and it's doing it very effectively. Have you tried to teach a group of kids anything, recently? Phones are simply an order of magnitude worse than any other distraction I've seen them latch onto. They're distracting to adults!
aug 31, 2025, 2:23 am • 5 0 • view
I will cede that i am not in education But i do have two school aged kids So i feel like i have somewhat of a dog in the fight Alhough, this year we pulled them out because of all the fascism
aug 31, 2025, 2:25 am • 1 0 • view
Two is about the maximum number of kids you can effectively teach at the same time if they've got access to phones.
aug 31, 2025, 2:52 am • 3 0 • view
Yeah, i dont know, sounds like you have classroom experience so you probably have the edge here I just think we'd get better results treating kids how we wanna be treated I dont have an answer for general apathy or a will to disengage from learning, i just know how i treat my kids seems to work
aug 31, 2025, 3:03 am • 1 0 • view
I agree with your approach in theory, it just doesn't work in a group context. Like, you can't let every kid on a field trip see exactly what they want, because letting them all wander off would be bad, and there's also usually a desired learning outcome everyone in the group should achieve.
aug 31, 2025, 3:21 am • 5 0 • view
Thats fair Probably alot of my stance is because of comparing my autonomy as a child to my own kids now Uniforms, shittier funding, now no phones Just seems like another blanket unfair restrictive thing I get distraction being a problem though I want my kids to have a better life than i have
aug 31, 2025, 3:24 am • 3 0 • view
With phones, the problem is that anytime a student is disengaged at all, they're sorely tempted to look at their phone. Disengagement is just a natural part of group learning, students can't keep 100% focus at all times and the teacher can't personally focus on all of them at once.
aug 31, 2025, 3:23 am • 6 0 • view
It just feels like a slippery slope to me
aug 31, 2025, 3:28 am • 1 0 • view
To me, it just feels like schools banning a new distraction. I grew up right in the middle of the transition to smartphones, and there were plenty of 'mean' teachers who'd have personal policies of confiscating yours if you had it out. Looking back, those teachers did some of the best jobs.
aug 31, 2025, 3:31 am • 5 0 • view
I think at some point it starts to feel like overreach/subjugation And the psychological effect of that deepening in kids from such an early age scares me for the future Teachers dont have the support they need to remove kids who are distractive More emphasis on personal responsibility/consequences
aug 31, 2025, 3:37 am • 0 0 • view
But with phones, that dynamic suddenly becomes amplified. The instant a student looks at their phone, they're no longer just disengaged, their focus has completely shifted to something else. They aren't even vaguely aware of what the teacher is doing anymore, so they don't re-engage naturally.
aug 31, 2025, 3:25 am • 5 0 • view