… this is literally capitalism. this doesn’t provide worker-owned control of anything, if anything it’s a consolidating corporate state. what do you think the word communism means?
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The government seizing part of a private company with no compensation is most certainly not capitalism.
aug 22, 2025, 10:05 pm • 73 3 • view
The compensation is Intel gets the $8.9B in CHIPS Act and Secure Enclave money Biden approved. Without this there's no way the Trump admin would have disbursed that money.
aug 22, 2025, 10:25 pm • 41 4 • view
Oh hey, so money that they should’ve gotten already.
aug 22, 2025, 11:34 pm • 3 0 • view
I was wondering what the payment would be. Looks like the Seditious Six of SCOTUS washed his hand to shake on the deal, once again.
aug 22, 2025, 10:34 pm • 15 0 • view
Pay to play, baby.
aug 23, 2025, 8:25 am • 1 0 • view
Some would call this extortion.
aug 23, 2025, 2:45 am • 3 0 • view
So, extortion.
aug 22, 2025, 11:15 pm • 4 0 • view
A Shake down
aug 24, 2025, 10:56 am • 0 0 • view
Don't forget the 15% cut of chip sales to China. America is a mob state.
aug 22, 2025, 10:25 pm • 4 1 • view
Correct it's textbook fascism
aug 22, 2025, 11:20 pm • 9 1 • view
Isn't this what the USA has been running a blockade on Cuba for for the last 60 years?
aug 22, 2025, 10:30 pm • 0 0 • view
No.
aug 22, 2025, 11:20 pm • 0 0 • view
Sorry, I meant the part about only taking part of a company and doing it without compensation. Cuba took all of it and in the case of Intel they certainly did get compensated. I should've expanded beyond 'No' originally there.
aug 23, 2025, 10:50 am • 1 0 • view
State capitalism is an apt label.
aug 22, 2025, 10:58 pm • 12 0 • view
When the government takes control over a business. He’s demanding 10% of profits
aug 22, 2025, 9:41 pm • 7 1 • view
That’s not communism…
aug 22, 2025, 9:46 pm • 36 0 • view
We don’t know what he plans to do with his 10%, so we don’t know what it is yet…is he giving us chips, selling them back to us or shooting us?
aug 22, 2025, 9:58 pm • 10 2 • view
For one, orwell was a socialist, so i doubt he would agree with this… Id change capitalism to: a select few people own all the cows and tell you to work harder and maybe someday you too can own a cow, but you probably never will
aug 22, 2025, 10:45 pm • 3 0 • view
That’s fair for sure!
aug 22, 2025, 10:52 pm • 0 0 • view
Is there a “government” under communism?
aug 22, 2025, 11:15 pm • 0 0 • view
Communism doesn’t mean 'no government'—it’s about collective ownership of resources. Even in communist systems, governments exist to plan, enforce policies, and manage the economy. The difference? The state controls production, not private entities.
aug 22, 2025, 11:21 pm • 0 0 • view
That would kind of imply a lack of withering away of the state… Pretty sure that removing government control of production was one of the main theories …
aug 22, 2025, 11:26 pm • 0 0 • view
So Putin worked for the KBG, who controlled the KGB?
aug 22, 2025, 11:31 pm • 1 0 • view
once again, not communism. please read a book
aug 22, 2025, 9:55 pm • 4 0 • view
You seem very confused.
aug 22, 2025, 10:42 pm • 0 0 • view
Depends on the context of communism. Pure communism wouldn’t have representative government. Taking ownership of corporations is integral to implementing any paradigm of communism. It would also require dissolving the state. State control is anti capitalist. Most paradigms are hybrid models.
aug 22, 2025, 9:57 pm • 1 0 • view
It's a form of Socialism. You can call it a command economy if you like, but it IS NOT traditional laissez faire free enterprise capitalism. As some have pointed out, if Biden had done this using similar Trump extortion techniques, Trump, Vance, and Miller would've screamed Marxism.
aug 23, 2025, 1:53 am • 1 0 • view
socialism, definitionally, is workers owning the means of production. how is this that? to me this seems like the ultra-wealthy currently in government positions consolidating and centralizing corporate power (i.e. textbook fascism), not the workers seizing the means of production
aug 23, 2025, 2:01 am • 7 0 • view
Socialism and a socialist government is a much more nuanced concept than you seem to think it is. And yes, Trump is more of a fascist or Stalinist in his economic desires but he calling him a socialist, in a nation which already has socialist components in it, is not wrong, IMO. From Grok...
aug 23, 2025, 2:58 am • 0 0 • view
>from grok deeply unserious
aug 25, 2025, 7:21 pm • 2 0 • view
The Grok answer was essentially correct. I posted another article which they never responded to. An AI summary is easier to digest. Believing "socialism," in it many iterations, is a black/white issue, shows ignorance. bsky.app/profile/pala...
aug 25, 2025, 10:22 pm • 0 0 • view
an ai summary can also be blatantly wrong, and can make up shit its not evidence, and unlike an article, no human being fact checked it. its not easier to digest if its very very capable of making things up and needs to be vehemently fact checked
aug 25, 2025, 10:24 pm • 0 0 • view
This AI summary was pretty much on point. The subsequent article I posted supported the gist of the summary. I knew enough about the difficulty defining socialism's nuances to know the AI answer was OK. I wouldn't have used a poor one. Like a Google search, AI can be useful if done/analyzed right.
aug 25, 2025, 10:42 pm • 0 0 • view
and like a google search, plagiarising the top result isnt remotely research, which is exactly what ai does but on a larger scale. also, for the record, you used grok. literally like just a month ago - if that - grok started posting actual nazi slogans and takes because of influence from nazis...
aug 25, 2025, 10:46 pm • 0 0 • view
like elon musk. its not a reliable source. i dont care how "correct" this single answer is, accepting it as a valid form of research is a terrible idea in of itself, and also incredibly indicative of how lazy people are
aug 25, 2025, 10:46 pm • 0 0 • view
??? Who said it is a valid form of research? If I was teaching and gave a take-home test and they used a Grok answer, it wouldn't be accepted, but X or Bsky are forms of communication where I'm not willing to compose an essay to make a point, so corners must be cut.
aug 26, 2025, 1:46 am • 0 0 • view
also for the record, the first sentence is just wrong, workers owning the means of production is the most fundamental aspect of socialism
aug 25, 2025, 10:48 pm • 0 0 • view
They also scream „communism“ whenever someone says „healthcare“ because they use words to scare people irrespective of the actual meaning of those words. There’s a reason why Trump „loves the uneducated.“
aug 23, 2025, 2:29 am • 2 0 • view
It’s literally just fascism, the merging of capitalism with authoritarianism is just fascism. Mussolini literally talked about this. “Free enterprise” is not the only form of capitalism.
aug 23, 2025, 4:27 am • 4 0 • view
Trump is moving toward it, but the Intel thing is more socialistic than fascist. On a political note, people like Miller, Trump, Vance, etc., are throwing the terms Marxism, Communism, and Socialism at Democrats & non-MAGA folks every day. If DT does something socialistic, it must be pointed out.
aug 23, 2025, 5:40 pm • 0 0 • view
For the love of god, pick up a book before you embarrass yourself further
aug 23, 2025, 5:46 pm • 2 0 • view
For some reason I thought Communism meant the state owns the means of production.
aug 22, 2025, 10:35 pm • 0 0 • view
This is literally socialism. State control of the commanding heights of the economy. Undoing this was one of the central tenets of 80s/90s neoliberalism
aug 22, 2025, 10:14 pm • 0 0 • view
Please review what it means for the government to own the means of production.
aug 22, 2025, 10:11 pm • 3 0 • view