What will bring down the BBC will not be pressure from its traditional enemies on the Far Right but rather it will be a loss of willingness to fight for it among its traditional allies among the Centre-Right, Liberals and Left
What will bring down the BBC will not be pressure from its traditional enemies on the Far Right but rather it will be a loss of willingness to fight for it among its traditional allies among the Centre-Right, Liberals and Left
This is absolutely correct and a situation that is being deliberately engineered by its Tory political appointees. Once it's gone, we'll never get it back and will have billionaire owned and controlled media promoting their political agendas.
It would help if fewer of the decision makers (journalists, editors) were politicians - or the partners, sons and daughters of politicians. Too many from the Westminster/ Holyrood/ Caerdydd bubbles.
Samir Shah and Tim Davie both need to go with a thorough shake up of the Board and the Executive Committee. Just my opinion of course.
The BBC's appeasement will backfire, if Farage ever touches that black door, he'll kill the organisation. The level of hatred is unwarranted, but we should be concerned about the path it's taking.
I agree. Ten or 15 years ago I might have felt inclined to fight for a national broadcaster that was free of the influence of the money men and vested political interests. Today’s BBC is not that broadcaster. In fact, its news and current affairs are actively working against the national interest.
It's a common dynamic - 5-10 years ago, this was the view of the Corbyn left, before that the SNP Reffers; some among both were warning of an undue deference to establishment interests within the BBC, but were generally dismissed as tin-foil hatters. Yet here we are. Doesn't augur well for the Beeb.
It's certainly acquired many new enemies in recent years, and among them me.
Centrists always enable fascists.
You can already see it the huge loss of listeners to Today, once an oasis of balanced thought, now the Spectator or more usually the Mail on line.
There is a sense in which the BBC has already been lost. Evidence suggests the only way to turn around a failing organisation is to get rid of the people and effectively start again. The people are the culture and the reasons for the failure.
Given that they consistently ignored predatory men over decades to the detriment of women and children, despite numerous attempts by those affected to get some action, they have a deep toxic issue that's not being properly dealt with.
Indeed. And that's even before the lurch to the right under Davie et al.
Who do you propose getting rid of then?
You're asking me for a business plan, or manifesto, for BBC reform?
im asking you to provide details for the plan you proposed.
Robbie Gibb. Tim Davie. For a start.
It’s ironic that the BBC is trying to cosy up to a political movement that would happily eliminate it at a stroke
Good point. I no longer pay the license fee and don’t miss it. I would love to support what the BBC is supposed to be, but that is not the current organisation. My kids are not growing up with the BBC and I suspect will care even less: it’s just not going to have any relevance to them.
Future tense?
You re right , I am that ally but there's little for me on BBC TV these days , nothing in their biased news ; I just wonder how my radio 4 will survive
They have stopped caring about the views of people who don’t want to watch a livestream of migrants drowning in the Channel. The sooner it’s made a subscription only service the better - then I won’t be so furious about having to pay their licence fee
Good BBC should be abolished
The BBC's news and current affairs have never served the nations outside England. It will not be missed. Meanwhile small alternatives work to fill the gap. bsky.app/profile/andr...
I'm a huge fan of the BBC. I still watch and listen to them pretty much daily. But I agree with others that their news and politics division have been utterly corrupted by the bias of the senior leadership, and the current government seem unwilling to even try to fix it.
Contracts until December 27
They can’t I don’t think. Until 2027 when the Charter is renewed. Although the current gov seem unlikely to stop the rot.
They have to be careful, as the BBC is independent. However, they absolutely can make clear that they have zero confidence in the leadership and eviscerate the specific people who are at the heart of the rot. It may make their roles untenable.
*was independent. Gibb shows it no longer is.
Kill it’s news and current affairs output and leave it with purely factual documentaries and entertainment
And then, how long until those factual documentaries start doing biblical and conspiratorial shit?
Won’t happen. The news structure for the bbc is wildly different to the rest of it. On the bbc news side you still have a majority of salaried staff working “in house”. If the work in politics then an awful lot of them will have a goal of working for a political party in coms.
As the majority of peeps working in newsrooms are rich white people there’s a bias towards Conservative Party thinking there which is what we see from bbc news.
Literally everything else is made by independent production companies not the bbc. Most peeps working in TV have a specialization but the nature of the TV production market atm means we don’t have the option to stick entirely in it.
We all work short term fixed contracts usually 3-5 months and move between production companies from job to job. You have ti be able to quickly get along with peeps from a lot of backgrounds and make creatively interesting shows. The upshot is, most tv peeps are quite left wing outside of news.
That's all fine and well. But the same way bbc board and management direct the news, what's stopping them to commission a "nature" documentary about jesus and 🦕, narrated by Jacob Rees mogg? 😂
The ridicule factor
because thats not how the industry works. Honestly, there a bunch of reasons, but take it from someone who makes factual programs for a living, including stuff broadcast by the bbc. what you described will never happen.
They won't get the far right audience they are chasing, but will lose their existing audience and support. bsky.app/profile/chro...
Crossed that bridge already.
The vast majority of the BBC’s output is excellent but the reputation of the entire organisation has been trashed by the News department - and the politics team in particular.
That’s a drum I’ve been banging for years. People conflate the BBC News and Current Affairs arm with the whole of the BBC and seem to struggle separating the two. Those that ‘do’ conflate the 2 are generally ’defund the BBC’ types. Be careful what you wish for. 👀
I wouldn't go that far. Whenever I look at it, it's property, cookery, money for old tat, or soaps.
So you’re the one that watches daytime tv. 👀😎😂
Not sure if this is better or worse but I read the Berkshire news on the Red Button, in the course of which I glimpse BBC1. This morning it was Dion in Wallasey. Nearly watched it in a fit of nostalgia.
Fits of nostalgia are what got this country in the state it’s in. 😂
Nostalgia for a past that never existed ...
Wallasey abides
Paying 150 quid a year for someone to casually accuse me of supporting Hamas wasn't pleasant
One could argue that Labour are in a similar predicament. They've simultaneously won power after a long time in the wilderness and lost their nerve
Rayners job should be to deal with Farage. She’s not an elite and he’s scared of her because he could alienate his “working” class supporters by saying the wrong things.
Yes, I'm wondering why she isn't being used to greater effect too
I've read many times that that is the plan. And one that is likely to succeed, sadly. A one-sided fight between the billionaires who can suborn politicians and regulators, who won't care if they destroy the BBC/ press/ radio, versus the public who must pay taxes whether they like the outcome or not.
See also: NHS
...which is exactly what the previous tory government set out to achieve. Problem is, people have very short memories.