The sub-genre of Labour party MPs and members being angry at the Greens or even LibDems for doing things Greens and LibDems need to do to become more successful parties has also become an ongoing theme
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There is a fairly peculiar belief in a lot of the Labour Party that the Greens and the Lib Dems exist to get Labour MPs elected rather than being actual political actors in their own right
sep 3, 2025, 12:44 pm • 5 0 • view
How DARE The Greens choose a charismatic leader who might effectively channel Leftwing anger against Labour?
sep 3, 2025, 11:23 am • 3 0 • view
The Left know they can never keep the Right out of power, but they retain hopes of damaging the electoral viability of the Labour party.
sep 3, 2025, 11:53 am • 0 0 • view
Although in no way do you have to hand it to Greens Against Wind Farms, I confess to chuckling when Labour members come on here, outraged that Adrian Ramsay might bend principles to pander to local opinion, or make promises that he ended up not keeping for political expediency
sep 3, 2025, 11:21 am • 7 1 • view
I am not outraged it’s just if you are going to vote green you might expect them to support actions’ against climate
sep 3, 2025, 11:59 am • 0 0 • view
Both Labour and the Tories believe that they share power. Labour believe that the Greens and LibDems are just there to steal their votes, just as the Tories didn't really grasp how they were hemorrhaging votes to Reform.
sep 3, 2025, 10:19 am • 0 0 • view
This is a really odd take. The main reason the Tories lost by a huge margin was that they were too focused on the (minor) threat from Reform on the far right to notice the (much larger) threat from everyone else on the centre-right, centre and left. They've continued to focus solely on Reform!
sep 3, 2025, 11:49 am • 3 1 • view
The Tories were going to lose anyhow, but the extent of their collapse was precipitated by REFUK's increase and the fact that BXP stood aside in all Tory seats in 2019. Labour wouldn't have a 174-seat under any other situation with less than 35% of the vote.
sep 3, 2025, 12:31 pm • 0 0 • view
It is a well known fact that the highest priority for most voters is whether they feel good or not about how they voted. What happens as a consequence of the actions of the government subsequently elected matters little to them.
sep 3, 2025, 11:51 am • 0 0 • view
It’s possible that winning an election via an unusual amount of tactical voting has warped Labour minds a bit into thinking that other centre/left parties should just shut up and let them govern solely focused on their right flank. Basically coalition by proxy.
sep 3, 2025, 9:26 am • 35 1 • view
Though paradoxically no formal coalition in which the smaller parties get nothing or get no opportunities to highlight stuff they did get to keep their own supporters happy would survive first contact with parliamentary reality.
sep 3, 2025, 9:41 am • 19 0 • view
Yes exactly!
sep 3, 2025, 9:44 am • 6 0 • view
They really need to recognise it as the complete fluke and near-disaster it was. They were basically gifted a huge majority by the incredibly useless tories and still almost lost it through their utterly dreadful and uninspiring election campaign
sep 3, 2025, 9:44 am • 3 0 • view
sep 3, 2025, 5:20 pm • 0 0 • view
Left punching worked for them within the party, but there's no reason outside the party for people to put up with that kind of behavior
sep 3, 2025, 10:01 am • 5 0 • view
If we're seeing a fragmentation of the UK parliamentary map that prevents any party from consolidating sustained majorities, then parties on the Right, sort of Centre and Left need to start developing coalition negotiation and management skills that the current crop of UK politicians seem devoid of
sep 3, 2025, 10:02 am • 11 0 • view
Given that UK politics is mostly a question of appeasing the senior coalition partners, the Mail and Telegraph, I can't see it happening much. (Apart from the fairly successful SNP/Green coalition, but we all know that UK politics means England only)
sep 3, 2025, 10:05 am • 0 0 • view
a key difference is that you can hoodwink party members and be done with it, but you have to go back to the national electorate again and again
sep 3, 2025, 10:07 am • 4 0 • view
Let's see what the electorate thinks .. oh bsky.app/profile/youg...
sep 3, 2025, 10:08 am • 1 0 • view
What I don't understand, is that the maxim: 'Governing parties lose elections, rather than Opposition parties win them' was evident at the GE 2024. Tactical voting was rife. Electorate was desperate to be rid of the rancid Tories & lent their vote. Starmer took this as an endorsement. Hubris!!!😡
sep 3, 2025, 5:03 pm • 0 0 • view
sep 3, 2025, 4:51 pm • 1 0 • view
Possible, if Labour hadn't always been like this about other parties to their liberal or left.
sep 3, 2025, 11:23 am • 0 0 • view