You never apologized to your base for backing Biden. You never apologized for your lies about ceasefires. Did you really think none of this would ever catch up to you?
You never apologized to your base for backing Biden. You never apologized for your lies about ceasefires. Did you really think none of this would ever catch up to you?
Are you sure that you're really pissed about this? One reason you Democrats keep getting outfoxed is your pettiness. Say what you want about Republicans but they understand that cohesion is stronger than petty grievances.
Republicans certainly know how to rally behind a pedophile or two.
It's sick and fucked up as it is you are correct. Tragic.
I’m not a Democrat. Now fuck off
Then you are in The wrong conversation fuck wit.
Well I'm not a liberal so I can't speak to that but I can tell you this much.. I find myself having to stick up for liberals to counter the absolute horrific bullshit that the maga cult is perpetrating on the American people
eat various consistencies of shit
I see you claim to be a musician. I wish I had a nickel for every asshole that claimed to be a musician. It's obvious you're not a writer or you could have come up with something much more effective or stinging than "eat various consistencies of shit" It's a pretty ineffectual tack.
What are you 12?
You just said "you democrats", so you aren't either, fuckwit. You and your stupid fkin gotchas are dumb.
I am an independent and have always been since I was 18 years old and voted for George Bush Senior. And if you find my "stupid fucking gotchas" are dumb you have two options open to you. Stop reading them and if you're not capable of that kind of self-control block me. I will lose no sleep.
they are currently knives out against each other over epstein. id tell you to stop watching tv but you apparently dont even do that
Oh I know they are split. But knowing the short attention span of most Americans this too shall pass. keep Epstein front and center we might be able to get rid of some of these assholes in Congress come the midterms. What I wouldn't give for a party that actually is for the American people
ever heard about communism
I most certainly have but I'm not sure what that has to do with this
oh just that the two major political parties in america are pro-capitalist, and capitalism is currently killing everyone possible and destroying the planet
100%. Unchecked capitalism is the worst evil ever perpetrated on mankind since religion.
cool. welcome to the left comrade
I don't know about "left". I consider myself generally a centrist or progressive best. I'm just morally flexible enough to do what has to be done to crush fascism
I wonder if that has anything to do with the facts that Republicans are all fascists.
I don't want to paint them all as fascists but the ones that aren't are certainly tolerant of the ones that are
Unsurprising that you are also an apologist for fascists
Have you even bothered to read any of my posts you fucking idiot? I'm calling for public executions of fascists. But it's unsurprising that you wouldn't bother to do any "research" before you come out with an accusation like that.
No I haven't, but you just said that some of the fascists aren't actually fascists
And you are conflating being a republican with being a fascist. I know tons of Republicans that are as anti-fascist as It gets. Or maybe you just don't know what the word fascist means?
Please give me your definition of fascism which excludes your friends who are members of a party which is lockstep behind sending brown people to foreign concentration camps without any judicial process.
First of all the Republican party has been taken hostage by magats. Because you only see what television wants you to see you don't understand that there are plenty of Republicans who think Donald Trump is a joke. Fascism is a far right political ideology. It is not conservatism.
They are apparently not anti fascist enough to leave or disavow the fascist party. So, yeah, you are definitely an apologist for fascists. And one should be very skeptical of a person who "knows lots of republicans." Those are bad people - you should not be knowing them!
Conservative Republicans that I know just want this all to go away. Cowardly? yes. Tolerant? Maybe. But until they applaud or engage in fascism they are not fascists. Believe me if you were to look at any of my posts you would see that I am not only preparing for the worst I'm their nightmare.
What you described are fascists and fascist collaborators... Which are also reprehensible. The fact that you seem willing to give them a pass for actively supporting and aiding the fascists is IMO an indication of a deep moral flaw in your views.
What the fuck are you even talking about? What pass am I giving anyone who's actively supporting or aiding a fascist? Think you might have me confused with someone else.
You explicitly saying here that not all republicans are fascists. In my reading of this that statement seems to convey that you are willing to give a pass to Republicans who are not explicitly fascists. Which I find to be wrong, they are collaborators.
Until they engage in fascist behavior everyone gets a pass. You're trying to find people guilty before they've even had a trial. How very American have you.
What do you mean they haven't done anything? Republican lawmakers - voted in favor of Trump policies enabling the fascist admin Republican party officials - provided PR and cover for the fascists Donated to the GOP or conservative orgs- provided material support to fascists
Kinda the point of the tough guy anti-MAGA posture. Claiming a radical position they can safely assume they'll never have to act on so they can outflank the radicals recognizing both Parties's complicity
Zero political literacy
Do tell. Wow me with your deep insights.. I can't wait to hear it
Republican voters have spent much of the last decade+ screaming about RINOs and while the Tea Party movement was astroturfed it did pretty much completely replace the party Establishment. The idea GOP voters are quiet and obedient is just a lie created to get Dem voters to shut up.
no they dont they constantly harangue their politicians often w credible threats of violence them being obsessed w guns n whatnot
hell half the reason these republicans abide by maga by their own admission is out of terror of losing their jobs or their lives
Republicans: "We will never negotiate with terrorists!!" Republicans to MAGA: "Okey dokey, just be a little patient please, we have to get it rubber-stamped by our judges."
You’re right about one thing, the Democrats have absolutely no party discipline whatsoever.
You're right about Dems not understanding party cohesion. Coalition building requires compromise on ALL sides, Dems keep getting outfoxed as you put it because the centrists have refused to compromise with progressives/leftists at all
I can't know for certain, but if Bernie and AOC backed Biden for the reason it appears they did, I think it was a defensible choice. If you keep the ball in his court, he steps down and endorses Kamala instead of turning it into a jungle primary.
If that happens, every new candidate- including Kamala- needs to put their full mouth on the money faucet. The case for who would be the best nominee becomes a question almost entirely about campaign funds and not about policy. The left has NO voice in that conversation.
Obviously we know in hindsight that we still ended up having no voice, but at the time you can only play with the cards you're dealt so if Bernie/AOC felt it was better to have some chance than no chance I can't really find much fault in their logic.
Jesus, just go fuck yourself already.
Shut the fuck up lib
😂 No bitch.
You need to spend less time talking and more time listening. It’s clear that this has impacted your ability to contribute to any discussion. Fucking moron lmao
I don't listen to you folks. You're the MAGA of the left.
Then stop reading our comments, you fucking freak
Woah, look who's reading my comments! You stop first!
We're not the ones uncritically supporting "our side" no matter what evil they support or perpetrate. That's you; if we're drawing actual comparisons you're qualitatively closer to MAGA by supporting the people who give support for a genocide.
You support and perpetrate evil.
Lol "no u". Find a school bus and get on so you can chill with your intellectual peers
It's actually really easy to not vote to give Israel money and weapons.
That’s rich coming from blue maga but go off I guess
Nope. You're maga. I called it first.
Ok blue maga
Tom Nichols follower opinion disregarded
Forever and ever because it bothers the weirdo left for some reason!
bother? brother we pity you
Back at ya
Bro's bio has "shitlib according to MAGA left" lmfao. At least he's aware of it.
Calvinball is the perfect metaphor for Gaza-First leftists. A more hypocritical, self-righteous group doesn’t exist.
Do you believe there is a genocide in Gaza?
I’m going to say no just to piss you off.
Very edgy, supporting genocide to own me for caring about genocide too much. What a brave boy.
The Gaza first voter bloc is responsible for another genocide happening in the US. And I don’t see them fighting ICE anywhere, just lying about Kamala’s Gaza policy.
What are you doing about ICE? Because every organization I have supported that’s done Palestinian advocacy has also done anti-ICE action. Also look at the third link in your own screenshot. Kamala was not meaningfully anti-genocide and refused to have a Palestinian speaker at the DNC. She also +
supported ICE pretty strongly in her capacity as VP, as well as defending the administrations abhorrent actions in Israel. She did not want the pro Palestine vote.
Here’s what pro-ICE groups said about Kamala and ICE. Contradicts what you’re saying, further proving you assholes just play calvinball.
Privatizing what ICE does it not the same thing as opposing what ICE does
It would make absolutely 0 sense to have a speaker at the National Convention that the whole point is to make your candidate look good, to have someone there to attack them. Can’t believe anyone would even imagine that to happen, let alone still be going on about it
I’ve been out in the streets, largely because you were so hypocritically racist against Kamala that we got stuck with a dementia patient who was quoting Hitler. Until you have more criticisms of Republicans than of progressive Democrats, I won’t believe a word you say.
You don't care who has to die as long as you feel comfy, got it. I don't know why you'd come on here and admit you completely lack humanity, but then, I'm not as fucking stupid or heartless as you.
All this "narcissism of Gaza voters" shit is pure projection. You're the narcissist who doesn't care about other human lives. And you're mad that if other people have actual principles, that means you're not as good a person as you think you are, so you have to tear them down.
You are fucking asshole. You pretend to care about Gaza, but can’t even act to stop the genocide happening in your own borders. We were 100% right about everything that is happening without Kamala winning, and you still have the audacity to claim moral superiority.
I call bullshit. There are people who are dying because leftists wouldn’t vote for Kamala, and leftists are doing shit about it.
That's absolutely bullshit, first and foremost Trump is responsible. Next would be the party that failed to beat him.
I dunno man...seems like the Jewish ethnostate doing Holocaust II and the people that support them have earned that trophy.
Which democrat who votes with trump do you love most? Is it Slotkin? That stapler thrower? American Psycho?
My favorite Democrat is AOC.
Oh no, my entire worldview destroyed because your favorite democrat is constantly flaking on criticizing a genocide!
OHHHHHH
Ya'll are just trying to shift blame because the choosing to not back Biden and Harris has fucked Palestine over even worse than before. Biden and Harris both wanted Palestine to have its own state. You helped the guy who wanted it wiped off the map. Congrats.
Biden and Harris loved Palestine so much they sent unprecedented levels of weapons to Trump supporters.
If there is any justice in this cold ugly world, Biden will be executed as a war criminal no different than the Nazis before him and the Nazis after. Palestine is not about you. It is not about a bipartisan slap fight while they vote for the same shit over and over.
Yet, you keep trying to make it about us. Any help we could have given to end the damn geocide was going to be based on the leverage we'd have had with Harris in office. Now Palestine has bigger problems & we've neither leverage nor time to help. We've got our own new problems. Again, congrats.
The Palestinian genocide is not about democrats and republicans flipping each other off across the halls of the same fucking burning building. It is not about AOC or MTG. They do not matter. A real, tangible, second by second fucking genocide is not about you. Not about purity testing you.
Every single one of you deranged fucks making a genocide that puts the wwii Holocaust to fucking shame about red vs blue, about American political infighting over who is/isn’t optically Best to intercede in the arms trade to Israel, help answer the question of why it’s still going on.
Trump won, Harris lost. That's why.
You are a waste of an argument. Biden killed kids. I opposed them too and you can pretend it would have stopped if "he just had moar power" but he had the power dumbass. He just didnt use it so shut tf up
I didn't say "if Biden had more power." I said we'd have more leverage & power to stop the bombs if he or Harris won. You get power over politicians by being a voting block that supports the winning candidate. A boycott is effective against a corporation, but it's the opposite in political races.
As fucked up as Biden's continuing to send Israel bombs was, and it absolutely was, his overall plan for Palestine was the same one as the Arab world put out. That's a goal that we could have pushed him or Harris on had they won. Trump's goal was to wipe Palestine off the map. The stakes were clear.
Even Trump knew who was going to be better for Gaza. "Harris has worked to tie Israel's hand behind its back, demanding an immediate cease-fire, always demanding cease-fire," adding it "would only give Hamas time to regroup and launch a new Oct. 7 style attack." www.politifact.com/article/2024...
@aoc.bsky.social, you didn't know how vote on the overall defense bill would go before your UNWAVERING support for 🇮🇱* made you help shoot down an amendment which would have mitigated it, HAD it passed. I LOATHE MTG, but she showed more decency & integrity here than you did! * (lost Harris the WH!)
@aoc.bsky.social: "Tax the Rich and send those tax dollars to a murderous regime whose 'The World's Most Moral Army' soldiers LAUGH about shooting* and burning alive children!" * latest FUN GAME: on "head day", they aim at heads, on "leg day", they aim at legs, on "genitals day"... you get the idea
(That👆 was inspired by this👇.) bsky.app/profile/frec...
Apologize for warning that trashing the Dem incumbent just months before the GE wouldn’t end well and then backing the the Dem nominee when the alternative was this⤵️?