Those defensive missiles are currently depleting because they are defending against... Offensive missiles which Hamas and their allies are still firing.

And what defensive missiles do the Palestinians have?

Hamas only builds offensive missiles.

And what does Israel build, chopped liver?

Israel invests in their defence. Hamas doesn't care about Palestinians. Hoping that Israeli civilians die is a failure of morality just as hoping for the deaths of Palestinians is.

You’re comparing a state with a resistance group.

Iran supported terrorists who terrorize Palestinian civilians as well as Israeli civilians.

a "ReSiStAnCe GrOuP" that murders its own people is a terrorist group.

You need to recognize that locking your door encourages burglary

You need to recognize between proper and improper analogies.

Funny I was just going to say the same thing to you

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don't be obtuse. she clearly stated that she supports sending weaponry for the iron dome

Her explanation seems fine to me, plus you're doing MTGs bidding, so congrats for that.

The bill does NOTHING to cut off offensive aid to Israel NOR end the flow of US munitions being used in GAZA. You lack reading comprehension skills.

She literally said the absolute opposite of what you just wrote. Absolutely no one should be listening to a word you write. I have been anti-israeli apartheid and pro-palestine for over 40 years and I've learned there is nothing more destructive to our cause than this kind of fake purity testing.

"purity testing" all I am demanding is that we stop sending ALL support to a state currently doing a genocide. Is that really an unreasonable line?

She voted against what would have continued to send weaponry to attack Palestinians and only defunded Israeli defenses when retaliation happened... Are you ACTUALLY comprehending what tread there?

there's no such thing as defensive-only weapons. israel simply wouldn't be able to do what it is doing without unlimited iron dome funding

Pull that bill up and read it. 🤷‍♀️

You are attacking one of the few members of Congress who has said "I want to end the genocide in Gaza" and has tried to make that happen, because she didn't vote for a bad-faith amendment written by Marjorie Taylor Greene. If you think you're helping end the genocide, let me tell you: you're not.

Honestly, the vote I could’ve forgiven. It’s the defense of US funding of the Iron Dome that’s unforgivable.

Yeah she has said that. Meanwhile she has materially supported it, and stumped for the Biden administration THAT WAS DOING IT. For the love of god will people have some fucking standards.

Challenge level: impossible

Then I assume you're just as mad at Rashida Tlaib, who also campaigned for Biden, via the straight-ticket line?

Also Rashida Tlaib didn't get up on stage at the DNC (bc she wasn't invited) and say that Kamala Harris was "tirelessly working for a ceasefire" when they weren't. Stop defending this disgraceful behavior.

Rashida Tlaib declined to endorse either Biden or Harris specifically, which she did because they were both responsible for the mass murder of her people. Get the fuck out of here.

No no, you've made it clear that any support is support for genocide, so you should be just as mad at Rashida Tlaib for encouraging people to vote straight-ticket! That's literally voting for a genocide supporter! michiganadvance.com/2020/10/21/s...

This article is from 2020, BEFORE THE GENOCIDE STARTED. YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING WORM. If this is the level of stupidity and dishonesty that you people have to stoop to in order to defend this, you should sit down and take a long hard look at your life.

What year do you think the genocide started?

I am not even going to entertain your disingenuous bullshit if you are going to be an obscurantist about the fact that the situation in Gaza radically changed after October 7th, 2023, and that Biden's conduct after that is what's at issue. I mean to have the fucking audacity to do this is astounding

What was bad faith about it?

🎯 exactly correct. These people are carrying water for Netanyahu AND MTG, ffs

The issue is not the vote. The issue is that she stated that we should continue to fund the iron dome because it is "defensive". Similarly to how it would be ridiculous to say we should give AA cannons to germany in 1944, we should not give air defenses to a state doing genocide.

We keep bringing up AA for Natzi Germany for some strange reason while forgetting things like the USA bombing civilians in Germany and fire bombing (and nuking) entire Japanese cities. Yeah, I'd want those civilian populations shielded. Their deaths did nothing to affect the war's outcome.

Yes bombs killing kids in Tel Aviv will definitely help the situation in Gaza! And voting present as a protest against not being allowed to deliberate or talk with constituents (despite the amendment being a bullshit stunt vote with no chance of passing) while voting against that bill is damning?

So why not missile defense for Russia while we’re at it? You think Russian kids are less human than Israeli kids? Cut the liberal zionist bullshit, Israel can pay for their own missile defense.

Literally yes, more bombs falling on israel would absolutely result in less genocide. Why do you think they get to do all this with impunity? It’s because the US literally shields them from consequences both diplomatically and physically

As we've seen time and time again when Israel is attacked, their response is to do less genocide. Good point. Definitely checks out.

You think you’re cooking here but your sarcasm is actually more accurate than your real thoughts. Yes, over the past 18mo we have seen that the only thing that stops israel is armed deterrence. The biggest example of that recently is Iran, they stopped because they could not handle retaliation

They literally openly bombed Iran and started a war, something they hadn't done ever before. What the fuck are you talking about? If your theory was true then armed resistance against Israel would have slowed down or stopped the genocide. Instead it resulted in speeding it up and a new war.

I guess the Palestinians should just lay down and die then, idiot

How did the "armed deterrence" of October 7th work out? Did that get Israel to deescalate?

My understanding is she voted against funding all weapons to Israel. Prior to that she voted against an amendment that specified defunding only iron dome missiles

She is smarter than these keyboard critics.

Agree or disagree, this is consistent with her messaging last year. ocasio-cortez.house.gov/media/press-...

Yes, that’s what people are angry about! If you, like her, support sending support to a nation conducing genocide then say so!

I don't want to destroy Israel, and I don't want to throw civilians to even justified wolves. I guess that's a "weak" position, but so be it. I'd like to see the US reduce support, and sanction specific individuals and parties responsible for the genocide. Not end defensive support immediately.

This has become a theme this year, hasn’t it?

I personally like to see what people DO and not what they SAY and what AOC did (and said) is send more money to Israel. Call it what you want, defensive offensive, but it’s money to a state committing genocide as we speak. “I want to end genocide” is not a bold statement either!

Offensive v defensive is a waste of breath. Israel views Merkava tanks and Hellfire missiles as defensive weapons. What are we doing here?

Israel has nukes. One good missile attack from the Iron Dome being down could give them the justification they need to use them. The Iron Dome going down would be begging for escalation.

That’s a good argument for Iran and other Mideast countries to have nuclear weapons. If Israel is mad enough to respond to a non-nuclear attack with nukes, mutually assured destruction is a necessity.

That's an argument for forcibly seizing Israel's nukes!

Not everybody in Israel supports Netanyahu or his genocidal regime. In fact, quite a few oppose it. Defensive systems protect them, too.

They want those people dead because they're Israeli.

The Israeli government is going to kill regardless of whether their population is protected. You can't further embolden people that are already willing to do anything to achieve their goals. Assuming the money can *only* be used for missile defense it may save lives.

Becoming more vulnerable to retaliation will make them think twice before bombing civilians.

You think Bibi really gives a damn about civilian Israeli casualties? He's going to keep killing until he gets what he wants. If more Israelis die that just gives him cover for even more killing in retaliation.

Might make him less popular in the local elections, though.

I don't know enough about what safeguards (if any) are in place to make sure the money only goes to defense, so I'm not going to rake her over the coals for voting in a way that she thinks will save innocent lives.

Do you think she doesn't know that?