A lotta these bozos want to go back to the '50s, imho. It always makes me laugh because schoolkids were being taught civics, history, and science. The civil rights battles would follow, but on the whole, the Boomers were an educated generation.
A lotta these bozos want to go back to the '50s, imho. It always makes me laugh because schoolkids were being taught civics, history, and science. The civil rights battles would follow, but on the whole, the Boomers were an educated generation.
Neither does the grim reaper. He doesn't care either. But let's see how many of them are going to be hypocritical like they were the last time about getting the vaccine. Definitely call them out.& better yet if they're anti-vax then they don't let them get it let them die.
Republicans/commentators who support RFK for HHS by saying he will make cereal healthier are garbage humans.
what pisses me off is all this black and white rhetoric YES vaccines are good and important, BUT, there are also issues with vaccines, and we should look into them more.
reducing the amount of viral material per dose, to cut costs, and then adding chemicals that trigger your immune system to ensure a strong immune reaction is CLEARLY causing issues for at least some people. and RNA vaccines are even more problematic.
Why?
why are adjuvants problematic? these are chemicals you dont normally find in the bloodstream, and are picked specifically because they are 1 cheap to manufacture 2 trigger a strong immune response
do i really need to explain why its a bad idea to inject chemicals into your blood that mess with your immune system? its not like this is a MUST HAVE. you dont ned adjuvants to vaccinate somebody. its just CHEAPER...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC... "For many years, few adjuvants have been included in vaccines, with aluminium salts being the most commonly used adjuvant. However, recent research has focused its attention on many different new compounds with effective adjuvant properties and IMPROVED SAFETY."
"Although studies have reported some potential side effects of vaccine adjuvants such as the recently recognised ASIA syndrome, the huge worth of vaccines remains unquestionable." potential side effects... potential... tell that to the millions who suffered and still suffer from those side effects
should we stop using vaccines? of course not! but im tired of people either going VACCINES ARE POISON, or they defend vaccines and claim they are perfect and 100% safe. both of which is equally ridiculous... all this pretending vaccines are 100% safe only ends up promoting anti-vaxers...
why what?
Do you think that RNA-vaccines are more problematic? They don’t contain adjuvants.
RNA vaccines are the least studdied vaccines around, that alone is a big red flag. the amount of reported side effects and complications for covid mrna vaccines is staggering. sure, nothing is proven, but does that mean theyre safe? are you going to risk your or your childs health to find out?
That’s simply not true. Severe complications of the Covid mrna vaccines are very rare. And yes I get my kids vaccinated because there’s no escape from the virus in a school setting sooner or later.
mrna complications are very rare? what data are you referring to? and how do you define severe complications? how many people under 50 do YOU know with myocarditis after an mrna vaccine shot and successive covid infection? i know over a dozen... so dont tell me its VERY RARE and not severe.
The prevalence of myocarditis from a covid infection is 1000 times higher than from the vaccine. Whereas a vaccine induced myocarditis heals within a few days without damage a Danish study showed lingering damage after an infection induced myocarditis at 20% of the participants.
same here, me and everyone around me is vaccinated, but that doesnt mean i trust vaccines 100%, and neither should you. thats what im saying, all this pretending vaccines are perfect and there are no issues is whats causing all the anti vax conspiracies. there ARE issues.
thats not entirely correct. they dont contain traditional aluminum salt or oil based adjuvants, but are equally designed and prepared to trigger a strong immune response, with as little payload as possible. again, to cut costs. www.nature.com/articles/s41...
But isn’t a small viral load that doesn’t cause harm, but triggers an immune response the basis of all vaccines? 🤷🏼♀️
yes, but whats your point? there are different ways of doing it, there are better and worse ways of doing it. claiming that a vaccine is "safe" without revealing details on the % of side effects and having tested it is immoral and the rootcause of why there are more and more anti-vaxers.
Millions of doses needed to be administered before rare severe side effects could be detected. The data is available at all government health agencies in the respective countries. Claiming that the data is hidden or confidential is disinformation.
we didnt even know what to look for in side effects we still dont understand today what all the side effects are and how they get triggered if you know what long covid is, and how it gets triggered, and how to prevent it, by all means DO enlighten us
show me then
Back in 2019 RFK Jr was promoting his anti-vax campaign in Samoa. So, at his insistence, the government stopped vaccinating people against measles. Thousands of people got extremely sick, and more than 80 people died. Kennedy called it "a natural experiment." He is going to take over HHS.
Anti Vax is working. We're starting to see both measles and mumps springing back up in Portland schools. That also means that pediatricians are not giving them and not notifying the schools. Lord help us all because kids can handle M&M but not polio.
See? This is why we need a George Takei podcast on YouTube simulcasted with Twitch. Could be called Talking with Takei and run weekly, and be the counter to Rogan. Having interesting science guests and a mix of infotainment along with debates and serious topical deep dives.
but of course NEVER having any of those scientists who dare to question any aspect of any vaccine. I'm old enough to remember actual nationwide-broadcast TV shows where doctors and scientists would talk about the pros AND cons of different vaccines. Wonder why that no longer happens..........
It will be mostly the right who will perish. #darwinism
My concern is restriction of federal funds for vaccine research and development. If there are no vaccines available, left and right die without discrimination
Thank you for using your popularity to post psa Good information from credible sources is especially important with msm and gov being compromised
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Parents are not vaccinating their children in record numbers. It won't be long till one of them mutate and we will all be screwed cause the vaccination we were given will no longer work.
The problem is when you vaccinate, to accommodate convenience or efficiency. If you need a vaccine against the flue, because it may kill you, then it is life saving. If you vaccinate against flue, so that you dont miss a day at work, then it is, imo, wrong
Possibly the best no-vax (not-necessarily-vax?) argument I ever heard, sir! 👍 But we both know that's NOT the current public debate, right? 🙂
I have no idea what the current debate is, to be fair. I have just chipped in with what i felt was relevant. 😅
Oh, I bet life is much more relaxing in Denmark then! 😊
Can't complain. It doesnt hurt to show others how things could be though.
When you depend on advise on health from anyone without a medical degree that a recipe for disaster.
I always say go into any municipal cemetery that's been around for a long time, and look at when the number of child graves significantly dropped off - roughly in the 1950s I believe. Now correlate that with the advent of immunizations. Mid 50s. Hmmm...
Guess what would have happened if *nothing else had changed*. You actually think all the improvements in sanitation, healthcare *science*, nutrition, poverty, etc. made no difference, that vaccines were the only thing that made any difference?
I would have liked to see how the Covid spike compared to the 1918 pandemic spike. But this is a great dataset and hopefully gives RFK pause
I agree!
deaths back in that era had not the right tools to clean infections, or the medicines to use. Nurses were men and they had very few female doctors. After the civil war things started to improve .
Abso-fucking-lutely.
They absolutely do not care if the most vulnerable groups get infected by these horrible diseases because I am sure every single one of those ASSHOLES have been vaccinated and their offspring!! So Fuck the rest of us especially the children!! I am so sick over this shit.!
That's the truth. Period. Anti vax is pro death.
I have a counter argument. Before you go calling me ignorant or stupid, hear me out. I agree that vaccines work. I have no issue with that. I do have issues with Big Pharm having total immunity against litigation. If they screw up and your kid dies, you have no recourse to fix it. None.
Idiots that "don't believe in science make me laugh line hell...
Compare US state FL 23 million people over 90,000 covid deaths. Australia 26 million 19,000 deaths, why? There is no comparison!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=18WP...
RIP Chuck Woolery
Those deaths are going to spike in the next few years with the avatar of pestilence himself RFK trying to ban vaccines. Fuck me this country is going to become a nightmare.
How bout being pro-choice. People (adults) should have the right to choose for themselves. Their body, their choice. And if they die because of it... well that is good for animals & the planet. Also people should have the right to choose end of life care.
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Absolutely. Even state with no vaccine mandates measured the number of bodies coming into the morgues and found that the unvaccinated had 20 to 55 times as many deaths. Period. www.dshs.texas.gov/news-alerts/...
I have taken vaccines al throughout my life but did not take the mrna and boosters, so would call me an anti-vax as well ?
The science, the data, they speak in universal tongues, unwavering and undeniable. Yet these mortals resist, as though ignorance were a shield. What is it that blinds them so? Perhaps their eyes are clouded by something far darker than any vaccine could cure.
Antivaxers when it comes to others... cuz they most likely are vaccinated themselves. Sadists they are and attention hos
Correct but the mortality rate has been rising globally since COVID with clots, heart attacks and strokes on the increase. bmjpublichealth.bmj.com/content/2/1/...
The fact that there's a big overlap between "pro-life" and "anti-vax" just proves they aren't pro-life at all. Despite often also not believing in evolution, they do seem to believe in survival of the fittest but mistakenly assume they are the fittest. They're not.
That's incredible! Go science 👍
The people that font believe in science but will believe in a talking snake.
In fact, nobody cares about your podcast. It is a stupid podcast.
George are you talking about a certain Joe Rogan who has used his podcast to spread lies a d misinformation like it's going pit of style?
Facts and data don't matter to the mob.
I feel exactly the same way about climate crisis deniers & to be fair they’re usually anti vaxers as well.
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The only reason people can delay or opt out of vaccines is because everyone else is getting them. Once herd immunity is gone, viruses will reign.
MAGA will say this is fake news
You're not wrong.
Magat is full of it.
MAGA will say this is "hand hygiene"
All I know is that none of my peers died of smallpox, measles, mumps, rubella, tetanus, polio, hepatitis, etc. So either a bunch of diseases and illnesses that plagued humanity for millennia just magically disappeared, or the vaccines worked.
"We Want them Infected" 👩⚕️💙🇺🇲🫣🏥 www.linkedin.com/posts/theres...
The fact that we have to talk about this.
I remember clearly getting my polio and smallpox vaccines. I know my parents were very happy to get the polio (on a sugar cube) vaccine. I was born in 1953 and I know I got the first vaccine before kindergarten
I remember the sugar cube as well.
Money is the motivation in Capitalism. Greed and Selfishness will be the end of Democracy 🤬
They aren’t intentionally pro death, they’re just stupid.
100% accurate. Where would we be without vaccines?? Many of us…likely not even here to have this absurd conversation.
Well said.
Wow, you can really see the 1918 flu pandemic spike in that graph.
The hell happened in 1920?
Spanish Flu, an outbreak of the strain H1N1 of influenza actually was responsible for more deaths than the whole of the First World War. youtu.be/Qh03tYOqmdo
Influenza epidemic more commonly known as Spanish Flu
Got it, thanks for answering!
Not just anti-vax, but anti-mask!
Do masks scare you? Why is it your concern if someone else wears one?
Not at all. I still wear one. Covid is still very real. I stay home as much as I can because of it.
There’s no doubt in my mind that the Covid vaccine saved my life.
Best update all your vaccines before January 20, because under Trump and RFK Jr, they may quickly criminalized or replaced with bleach injections. And then hope you stay healthy until the Trump nightmare is over.
Oof. That 1919 spike is something. If bird flu decides it likes us a lot, it's going to make that and covid look like a blip on the chart.
There's a difference between a thoroughly vetted and voluntary vaccine, and one rushed out with minimal testing and forced on people who don't want it. Such distinctions are beyond the Left's (and your) ability to understand, I guess.
We should’ve let them drink bleach.
If only trump had taken his own advice
I never personally tried to stop them
If We Tell Them It Kills STD's They Will
I heard injection was on the table too!
Polio survivor here of 1950s antivax parents. I was4 years old. I spent months hospitalized and had to relearn to walk. My kids are vax and I am vax vax whatever I can. I survived with minor disability. I was lucky. I super vax and thank God for Dr. Fauci
Not anti-vax just pro information big difference but likely doesn’t work for low IQ
Y'all my neighborhood Facebook group is FULL of these people and I literally can't! Just had to explain to Karen why her "personal research" doesn't trump my daughter's medical degree. The AUDACITY! 🙄💉
How much time did your daughter spend studying vaccines; was there anything in the training other than "vaccines are the perfect solution to illness, with no downsides"? Most people - the ones who haven't been damaged by vaccines - are happy to believe that there *are no downsides to any vaccine.
I guess let those who won't vax...die!
I find most people anti vax, have had all their childhood vaccines. 🤷🏼♀️
What a stupid comment all legacy vaccines have the weak virus in them, and one dose gave you immunity. The jab did nothing, not even 7 or 8 doses. Vaccines had 10 plus years of test data, and the government stood by and guaranteed them. The mrna isn't a vaccine. Believe what you want.
What a stupid response. “All legacy vaccines” DO NOT “HAVE THE WEAK VIRUS” in them. In FACT, all legacy vaccines are NOT directed against viruses. Typhoid Tetanus Diphtheria Pertussis Pneumonia Google IS your friend.
Any of those require 4 doses in a year? And still don't stop you getting or transmitting the disease. I didn't think so.
If you had even a SMIDGEN of scientific training you would understand WHY COVID, a virus, mutates faster than bacterial infections. But I don’t have time to educate you. You COULD learn, if you wanted.
They are referring to ALL vaccines here, not just Covid. But you do you.
It's still a vaccine. Vaccines do need to be topped up sometimes and it depends on the virus' mutation rate. In the way that computer antivirus software needs to be updated to deal with new trojans etc. Covid being spread around has a higher rate of mutation. It's not complicated.
I am an old ER Nurse George and I have no immunity to measles despite enough vaccine for 3 people. The herd has protected me. But I could easily be taken out by a measles outbreak at the end of my career thanks to RFK JR.
Indeed. Not only that, but TB epidemics prior to WW2 produced...vampire panics. Absolutely not kidding.
Gee...if only we had definitive proof!
The evidence is literally written in stone when you walk through the child section of a cemetery.
And when there are no vaccines available?
That spike around 1918-1920 is telling.
You’re just setting up the, “I TOLD YOU SO” aren’t you. * I * will be using that phrase a lot in the next 8-12 years if I last that long amidst the repeating plagues on the horizon. 8-12 because Trump and Bobby2braincells will disassemble the CDC, NIH, et all. Time to remake them is too long.
I agree . 48 year healthcare worker here. I’ve seen a child die of measles . Never vaccinated.His grandparents carried him into the ER lifeless . I hope I never see a child die from a disease that is preventable. I cried like a baby when I got home
Absolutely.
I've often wondered if the Population Control crowd that conservatives hate so much are ever the ones funding the anti-vax messages. Why bother implementing active population control measures when you might be able to convince people to do themselves in?
Very true. On a interesting side note, this chart makes very clear how deadly the 1918 pandemic was and how critical a vaccine will be if we see a repeat of those levels of mortality.
Vaccines, some have helped. But it's ok to be anti-vax depending on the vax, like say covid... That's no vaccine man.
Anyone who is anti-vax is most likely also pro-guns, so clearly pro-death.
The fly in that ointment is when they deceptively called an mRNA gene therapy a vaccine, and violated trust and informed consent.
Except of course mRNA is not gene therapy. www.gavi.org/vaccineswork...
mRNA vaccines use mRNA created in a laboratory to teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies Source: www.cdc.gov/covid/vaccin....
What happens if those bits of mRNA happen to end up in heart tissue?
Zilch. Nada. Where are you getting your information from? news.yale.edu/2023/05/05/y...
Places like the CDC and National Institutes of Health... here in 2019 they say "Despite the significant progress in the past decade, major gaps remain in our understanding of mRNA metabolism, as well as its relevance to cardiac biology and medicine.... pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC...
In 2022 they say "modified mRNA (modRNA) presents a novel gene therapy approach which provides a transient, stable, safe, non-immunogenic, controlled mRNA delivery to the heart tissue... pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36555159/
So, basically, mRNA is a hammer that they're learning how to use. It had no appropriate place in dealing with Covid, in my humble opinion.
I’ve tried to explain it patiently. mRNA in vaccines is not gene therapy. That mRNA can be used for another purpose does not mean that the use of mRNA in vaccines is gene therapy.
According to the FDA... "Human gene therapy seeks to modify or manipulate the expression of a gene or to alter the biological properties of living cells for therapeutic use" if that isn't the point of putting mRNA in the "vaccine" what is it? www.fda.gov/vaccines-blo...
Good: you understand that mRNA vaccines are not gene therapy.
Since working on my family tree, I find it relaxing walking through old cemeteries. I can’t help but notice so many graves are for young children & babies….Vaccines changed that. It’s impossible not to tie the two together.
Always funny how none of these folks who “do their own research” ever do their own dentistry.
I hope they don’t do their own dentistry because they will FUBAR their mouths. Then we have to fix that shit.
"is it safe ?"
I loled at the name but lost it at the avatar 😂
It's even funnier how their own research only involves the information that pretty much confirms what they believe. And if you bring up other stuff, they call it "fake news" or whatever.
By "do" they mean "watch" By "their own" they mean "Someone else's" And by "research" they mean "Shitty youtube video"
I’m pretty sure for 99% of them “do their own research” translates as “find the first sketchy AF website that happens to agree with whatever their ill informed preconceptions are”.
Confirmation bias kills.
Or, for that matter, their own research
The true saying of "Do your research." Should be Yes, do your research and work with professionals to solve your problems. My heart condition would remain undiagnosed if I had left it to just doctors to diagnose. But working with them helped me.
The efficacy and safety of vaccines is unrelated to a specific doctor's failure to diagnose your heart condition.
You missed his point which I think was: real research confirmed by real experts using real world data vs confirmation bias.
If that's his point, he made it very poorly.
It’s the nuanced edition.
At best they do their own lit search (of a sort) Most have no clue how research is conducted. As an oncology nurse I would have to gently remind my anti mask patients that.
Oh they do They do oil pulling instead of brushing They don't think cavities are real
The very idea of doing that makes me gag, can’t imagine how anyone thinks it’s effective, anyway
It is too much trouble to brush their tooth.
This is the way these issues should be addressed. "F*ck your feelings" sometimes shows the most compassion for other's well-being.
They were told there would be no fact checking.
Exactly…vaccines should not be a political issue!
I'm ok with these people dying from the diseases of their choosing.
Add in anti abortion to anti vax. They are signing death warrants for newborns, particularly for low income communities (regardless of race or color)
Absolutely!
Yes! Thank you George!
They are pro-death for poor people. They are “anti-vax, but make sure their private health providers are well stocked with the correct medicines.
Shh don’t tell RFK!
Anti-vaxxers kill children
There he goes again, George, preaching about “empirical evidence” like it’s some kind of universal truth. What’s next? A lecture on the scientific method? Classic George.
I’m old enough to have the smallpox vaccine scar. I remember lining up in school for the Polio sugar cube. Vaccination of the public saves countless lives.
Amen 🙏🏼
But how do you explain this to people who refuse to believe experts and decry information they don't like as false while simultaneously deciding the factually incorrect YouTube video that confirms their biases to be accurate information?
Dont bother. Spend your time on something useful. They want you to exhaust yourself. Do you think most of those people AREN’T getting vaccines? Of course they are. They wont risk the most important person in the world, themselves.
I know people who were ventilated and died while claiming COVID wasn't real, and then their families blamed the doctors for "infecting" and subsequently killing their deceased family member
Same! I work in the medical field and I was doing Home Health and Hospice when COVID hit and I watched so many suffering and dying from it! Just drink bleach!
Seriously 😳 this is who half the country voted for! WTF 😬!
Take heart in two things: 1. Actual voting amount: 22% of total population 2. 87% of Republicans also staunchly oppose the idea of the US becoming a dictatorship
Firstly, thank you for everything that you do: you are appreciated! Secondly, I know--it's quite literally insane and absolutely boggles my mind how people have embraced such ridiculously easily disproven lies and fully commit to absurdly outlandish conspiracies. It's maddening
He makes significantly more money than me and he knows it! I am so stressed and frustrated by everything going on right now!!
My husband is one of them and we have 2 young daughters and I have another older child who is transgender together and I am so horrified and devastated by his actions these past year or so and I am trying to figure out how to leave with my girls. He voted against our rights!!
Ugh, that must be so confusing, heartbreaking and aggravating, I'm sorry you're going through so much
No one has stronger delusion than a person who knows they’re wrong.
Yup, sunk cost fallacy. It's truly a challenge to the ego to admit your own investments were mistakes
You don't. They have to come to it on their own, or they don't at all. Too much cognitive dissonance and Dunning-Kruger.
turd immunity: an inoculation that prevents catching any damn clue.
It's almost like we need to let them FAFO. Old co-work of mine believed covid was a hoax, and the vaccine had a gps in it so "they" could track you, until he was put on a ventilator. He found out it was real and died from it. One less anti-vaxer conspiracy theorist. 🤷♂️
I love you George- but I suspect that not all vaccines are equally effective, equally safe, or equally important. I take some vaccinations but have doubts about others. Am I anti-vax? I don't think I am. I just don't think it's an all-or-nothing proposition.
Tuberculosis sanatoriums were everywhere, as common as the poor farm. Raw milk is a bad idea.
If the COVID vaccine was ineffective, what happened to the virus and the thousands of deaths a day, vacation?
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I’d love to see the breakdown of the deaths and diseases if anyone has it.
"Facts don't care about your feelings" people really don't seem to care that much about facts.
Yes . This is just one of the ways putie and other extremist right zealots try to kill Americans without firing a shot .
It was never said "we must suspend personal autonomy for the greater good". There was no acknowledgement of apparent hypocrisy that says "you can't control our uterus to save a life, but we can coerce you to take a new drug in order to save a life". "It's not the same thing!" Oh, but it is.
Except that a) the only ppl required to take the vaccine were active duty military & federally funded healthcare providers & b) the only consequence for refusal was honorable discharge or reassignment. Everyone else had multiple options, & nobody was threatened with jail.
> nobody was threatened with jail. threatening livelihoods is coercive. it's like saying if you don't bring your pregnancy to term, we will ruin you financially.
Plus, your analogy is laughable. Millions of women are ruined financially because they DO bring a pregnancy to term. If you really cared about reducing abortion, you’d fight for paid leave, low-cost perinatal care, guaranteed financial support for children w/disabilities, & reasonable childcare.
Women lose their livelihood all the time b/c of pregnancy. Employers aren’t required to grant sick leave. You can be fired for taking a day off to give birth; forget about prenatal checkups, recovery, or caring for the newborn. Threaten women w/ financial ruin for abortion & they’ll just laugh.
Again, the only ppl whose livelihood was threatened were active duty military. They sign up for a job where they can be jailed for not walking into a hail of bullets, so bodily autonomy is not relevant. Allowing them to choose honorable discharge over a combat-readiness order is pretty lenient.
#ProudMassHole
We lost that sweet Lavinia Swire during the spike in 1920. #RIPLavinia
The GQP is a pro-death party
We have got a pro vaxxer here. How many of the magical jabs have you had to date. 4,5,6,7,8,9 or more, I'm not sure I call that effective, but you crack on it is your body your choice. I personally had none and am still alive. Everyone is different.
Of course, anti-vaxxers are so twisted that they think catching measles is a wonderful blessing, and they might think the same about polio and smallpox.
I’m old enuf to remember what it was like before the polio vaccine. It sucked.
College prof on crutches since polio as kid. IT IS VERY REAL, and now it’s making a come-back!
And it was almost completely eliminated.
Sadly, all too true!
I was born a couple of decades later, but I remember the frankly reverential way my dad and maternal grandparents talked about Jonas Salk.
My aunt had polio. Paraplegic from 5 years old.
Law school friend got it the year before the vaccine. No muscle use of left arm or either shoulder. Super smart. Great athlete otherwise. Terrible.
I remember a friend who died at 13 from measles. But only one, my parents remembered many more.
I’m told that as an infant I nearly died from pertussis/whooping cough. When my kids were due for pertussis vaccine was when whackos started in on it. Partner’s husband was Chief of Neurology at Children’s Memorial Hospital. Asked him. “Absolutely get the vaccine.”
That's horrible, I'm so sorry. My grandmother (born 1890s) had polio as a girl, walked w/a pronounced limp and used a cane her whole life. A friend at work got rubella when pregnant in the 60s, her daughter was born deaf. Both preventable now. Shut up, RFK Jr.!!!
Neighbor! I “grew up” (assumes a fact not in evidence) near Downers Grove and retired in Michigan. Antivax is a mashup of far right and far left whackos; anti-big-pharma meets libertarian. Think people! Don’t knee jerk!
More of a neighbor than you know! I grew up in Downers from 50s to early 70s, then after a brief stopover in Phoenix for college, moved to Michigan. I've been here 48 years now, mid-Michigan area.
LaGrange/Western Springs ‘54 thru college, and then again as a supposed adult. I retired at our summer cottage Up North.
Always amazing to find people who grew up outside of Chicago with me!
And for those who survived, many had a re emergence as an adult. Who would want to bring this back? They truly are a death cult
My aunt had affects of “post polio syndrome”. Her whole life. She died to early.
So sad! And it will come raging back without vaccines.
Immunocompromised people depend on other people getting their vaccines for herd immunity. This is going to hurt a lot of innocent people.
I have seen children die from measles, hemophilus, pneumococcus, pertussis, influenza and Covid. Natural infection is not the answer.
They forget that measles can cause blindness if left untreated
Yeah...wait til the men get mumps in their teens...
I believe it's because they are confusing measles with rubella, AKA German measles. Contracting rubella during pregnancy causes terrible birth defects to the fetus, so when a child gets rubella, it was common to see rubella parties so little girls could get it and become actively immune.
I couldn’t believe this book was real, so I googled it. It’s a self-published self-aggrandizing piece of dung. The reviews are hilarious. I love dark humor.
That is an extremely sharp drop
Pretty dramatic, isn’t it.
Nice charts of vaccine effectiveness
It's a simple problem with a simple solution. Vaccination has risks. Not getting vaccinated has risks. The latter risks far outweigh the former.
In most cases very far.
People who voted for Mango Mussolini and/or did not vote at all realize how detrimental this is going to be?
Homo sapiens don't seem to pay attention until it affects them or their circle of acquaintances. Not using vaccines will get their attention. Not right away, but in time. They may or may not notice, which is a similar problem.
A historian on Fresh Air posited that vaccines have also allowed mothers to join the workforce, because you can be a reliable employee if you have to keep staying home with kids who have measles, mumps, rubella, polio, chicken pox, etc.
Isn’t it incredible that the anti vaxxers are likely taking Ozempic at an alarming rate ( no data to support). But where is the mass questioning of the safety and efficacy of Ozempic?
I think you will find that many anti-vaxxers are also anti-Ozempic. Ozempic is great at its original intended use (diabetes treatment), and any risks of the med are overshadowed by its ability to temper both hyper- and hypoglycemia. A side effect of that is that you don't feel hungry as much 1/
/1 - and you therefore can more easily control your food and calorie intake since you don't feel hunger as badly. Whether the risks of the med are better or worse for weight loss (treatment of the risks of obesity) is, of course, still up in the air. But for diabetes it can be a miracle worker.
I’d bet my next paycheck that most of them are also smoking a pack of Marlboros a day.
They’ll take a new drug that “might” help them lose weight but refuse one that will likely help save their lives.
Oh it's out there, behavioural purity cult and all. Meanwhile, I'm completely convinced that as soon as a community is all on GLP-1 agonists, they'll start convincing themselves that they don't need them.
Thank you for saying this.
I always loved how the antivaxxer had the arrogance to suggest they knew more than epidemiologists who have spent decades studying infectious diseases. All of a sudden, people who could barely read and barely passed HS were fluent in reading medical reports. Really unbelievable.
And the virus is Non discriminant.
Rubella baby here. Deaf, 8 autoimmune diseases, 3 degrees in Neuroscience. If you don't vaccinate your kids, you are a child abuser... end of discussion.
A new vax comes out I run to Walgreens!
Save Canada from our anti-science conservative opposition leader who wants to become PM in 2025. Anything you can do will help.
Just so you know you are following a toxic pro-lifer that is about to get nuclear Blocked. @campaignlife.bsky.social You will also get blocked if you are following them. something to consider.🤷♀️
Thank you.
😉 no problem. Here we support each other against the toxic trolls.
Thanks. Now blocking them. Never followed anyway.
Blocking is the best way to just remove their toxic abuse from your feed. It's the best tool we have here to say "not here you don't" They still think it's like X and that they can shame people for blocking them. But we aren't like X and blocking is very encouraged here.😊
Agree. It takes all of my willpower not to reply to them before blocking though... Been able to so far. I want to see this place stay sane.
I left X well over a year ago because not being able to block out their abuse and having Musky manipulate the trends to encourage more toxic engagement was effecting my over all health. Many can't see just how toxic it really was. I truly enjoy the space I made for myself here.😊
Yes. X is a sewer. It's great over here and I am trying to do my part to keep it that way. Sane and honest.
It's nice meeting people from all walks of life that work together on a scale like this to have a more humane and caring social media place to spend our time. It gives me hope.
Endorsed.. heartily 👍🏼❤️
🤭Thanks darlin😉
The funny part for me are the people that absolutely vaccinate their pets and livestock,but not their kids.
See that spike around 1920? Also a flu-like pandemic....
What's funny is that the "Spanish" flu followed just about the same trajectory as covid - *without vaccines*. But the pharma-brainwashed somehow believe that covid would have just never ended, and everyone would be dead, without the covid vaccines....
NO ONE EVER said “everyone” would die from COVID. Stop using hyperbole. But over 1 MILLION Americans did, in fact die from it,
You realize almost 100 million died from the Spanish flu, funny , without vaccines.
and you don't think more medical knowledge had anything to do with this lesser death toll?
Like….vaccines?
It’s so sad
Anyone who is antivax is welcome to practice it...let them die and decrease the surplus population.... Merry Christmas E. SCROOGE
The spike around 1920 was caused by influenza infected WW1 soldiers returning home after victory. Many traveled by train and also went to parades which furthered the spread. Estimates range from 25 to 45 million deaths. Got your shot for this year yet?
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Fuckin’ A, George!
Can't agree here. Anti-vax are pro-death, and also pro-suffering, pro-dehabilitating, pro-disfiguring. Smallpox didn't just kill, it ruined lives of those who survived it. Until vaccination defeated it.
These are the same people who claim to be pro-life but also oppose any policy which helps protect and keep people alive
I am pro vax because there is a headstone in the Cut Knife Saskatchewan cemetery carved with "Arnold Raymond Lonard Riopelle 4/16/1931 - 1/4/1935" That's my great uncle who died from meningitis, we didn't have a vaccine for yet or he might have survived my great grandmother had to watch her son die.
To be anti-vax would be to spit on his grave and I can't do that
My grandmother and one sibling, who were school-age and so vaccinated, lost their other five siblings and her pregnant mother. I only exist because of vaccines.
My mom (born in 55) got mumps as a child in the 60s (some time after 63) and grandpa got it from her, my uncle born in 63 was my grandfathers last child... Unsure if it was the side effects of mumps that can sterilize adult men or if he and Grandma just stopped having kids on purpose.
Well I received my shingles shots last year, I get a flu shot every year, and I have gotten every Covid booster they offer me. I can’t believe I’m still alive !
The truth has never been louder!
Truth.
Correct, sir. Good to see you... engaging!
The only anti-vaxxers I know are deeply stupid people who think they've figured out the world.
Anti vaxxing been anti religion and so anti science. Look how many churches they lost until they had to have lightning rods. Talk about your toxic positivity.
You can't even lead this horse to water.
As a corollary, anyone who is pro-Trump is pro-death.
Let Darwinism do its thing
Do you post on Twitter? Does anyone see this besides the choir?
My mom was born in 1934. She remembered life where polio was a thing. Whole towns shutting down because it was found 2 counties away. Public areas- pools, stores, restaurants, closed. People lived in terror of these diseases. It is grotesque how nonchalantly these loons disregard the threat.
My mother contracted polio in 1956. She recovered sufficiently to join the US Navy, but suffers from post-polio syndrome now. My late mother-in-law was bound to a wheelchair her whole life after contracting polio and died before I met her. The last case in the wild was near my home when I was 3.
And I’ll bet anything they were the first in line to get their kids the vaccines. These lunatics won’t be happy until diphtheria and polio are back. Let’s toss in some smallpox to round it out. What is WRONG with these people??
Let me just remind you all: there's a huge difference between being anti-vaxx and being pro-immunity. I, for example, cannot inject some types of vaccines. For my own health reasons it's better for me to contract the virus or bacteria than to be vaccinated.
I fear for my grandchildren.
Let them choose their own path. This is how society evolves. We are unaware of the long term adaptations and adjustments either choice will have.
My 'Facts don't care about your Podcast' t-shirt answering your vax question.
Had a hard time finding the exact source that this is from, but I found something with very similar data from a reputable source! Throwing this here for those interested. www.mass.gov/doc/2021-dea...
Found another one with data that's a bit more focused! maic.jsi.com/wp-content/u...
Which reminds me; I have to book my COVID and Flu shots. (Five minutes later) Done