Defend deny depose 🤣🤣🤣

I can see how that could prove problematic. Good catch George!

That sounds like a problem... my spidey senses say there is something going on between Musk, Putin, & Trump...

How do they expect to be able to install him as the head of a government agency if they can't even give him clearance because he's selling secrets to foreign powers while on fucking ketamine

It is how the system works though and it seems to be working right. The security level they are talking about is intrusive and he doesn’t really need it as the CEO. It must chafe though that he can’t know what some stuff is about and that he is kept out of the loop.

I just find our 'laws' baffling. If you are high up you have no accountability for the SCOTUS and POTUS and Congress. If you are to get clearance you can just determine what levels you need as appointed to forego any type of accountability. Do we even have laws on government white collar? No.

He certainly isn't hiding drug use, he's willing to do that on camera.

fucked, we are - Yoda

You. Nobody cares about his weed usage. He’s an asset

Of course it's a problem, except to people with their heads buried in the sand. (AKA Trump voters.)

Sad, but true.

I mean from what we learned from the first term of Trump, the dude will just share it anyway. He won't even try to hide the secrets like how he tried last time: like how a teenager hides porn. It still blows my mind that "patriots" support either of these stooges.

The Outer Limits!!! 😫

This is a huge problem and laws might have been broken!

For TS clearance you need to take a lie detector test. And don't forget Musk lied on his citizenship application as well. His student visa expired after he dropped out of Stanford and he was working, which he had no legal right to do.

He will just write another check to Trump who will in turn give him whatever security clearance he wants. What a pimp!

I watch as kings of noise parade, Their myths like shadows, slow to fade. Musk tweets, Trump roars, truth grows thin, While mortals cheer where light can’t win. Their minds ensnared, their eyes so blind, I see the truth they’ll never find.

Musk and Trump are both Russian assets and if an investigation was done on Trump for security clearance he wouldn’t qualify for it either!

All criminals...all of them

He should have to answer those questions to go on a public tour of The White House

SpaceX has become a very important company to the Government and Elon seems to have a very big mouth and can’t keep a secret.

Wait til you hear about the guy who stole hundreds of top secret documents, lied about it, and obstructed justice to not give them back.

Hiding his conversations with Putin should immediately disqualify him and in fact he should be investigated. But you have a POTUS who is a Russian puppet and his party which is allied w/Russia so it ain't gonna happen--and I'll be Trump grants him clearance anyway.

Having 34 felonies should disqualify him buuuuuuuuuut.

Agreed, for once though, I have faith in the Americans who have given their lives to serve the rest of us…the orange turd calls them the deep state. I believe they will find all sorts of ways to tie orange and minions in knots…. Golly, I hope so.

Haven’t exactly lost faith . Definitely don’t trust anyone now .

It makes me physically ill to think about this trash or is it garbage?

It’s 34 felonies it’s whatever you wanna call it but anybody else they’d be in jail… actually you know what they probably would be walking around. ‘ cause he is white..

Justice Thomas isn’t white and he is still SCOTUS judge.

But does he actively have 34 felonies?

We don’t know how many he has. But he has many many many ethics problems.

Not yet and it may not happen in my lifetime. He is the worse garbage/trash on the SCOTUS and nobody id doing a da!n thing about it.

Bc the white lady hold the purse strings .

I've always considered dry waste to be trash and wet waste to be garbage. I think it's a matter of personal preference depending on how grossed out you are.

I’ll call him both, 🤣

🤣

Yep.

Who needs high clearance. He could just use a bathroom at Donald's place.

Musk is such a wealthy, wack weirdo, I'm assuming he has quite a few skeletons in his closet that MAGA needs to avoid. The Ick Factor is obvious.

Like it matters. His puppet will tell him everything anyway.

Oh, I've always seen Musk talking to Putin as a problem.

He’s a punk….a rich, entitled punk, but still a punk. I wouldn’t trust him with the keys to my truck.

I'ma object here, would like to reserve 'punk' for the resistance fighters living just a little outside the system, not the scabby rats who benefit most from it.

Whaaat? Trump's Censorship Czar doesn't want to take a lie detector test? The guy who personally inserted himself into the invasion of Ukraine by shutting off Starlink on behalf of Russia? The guy who makes regular trips to Beijing and has major Chinese technology holdings? Interesting.

He won’t need it. The con will tell him anything he wants to know and more. So if he can decipher lies and garbled bs he’s good.

He'd also have open up about his illegal immigrant status, which he called "a grey area".

Absolutely a problem. Let's hope that government employees who are loyal to the USA - rather than being loyal to Trump - continue to do their jobs properly.

Does he see how this is a problem ?

Yuge!

Xe, Orban, MBS, Putin

I’m sure trump will fix this for him. Didn’t he fix it for his son-in-law?

Yes, he did. And this will present no problem either.

That’s what I thought.

Don't forget that he's in the same boat with China... So much so that China is already trying to leverage him to get to Trump.

We have our own version of this here in Canada. The conservative party leader has similar concerns, apparently as he has dodged taking proper security clearance tests too.

A DISQUALIFYING problem!! 🙀

Hmm, is Elon a national security threat? He could be in the future. Let's wipe all his security clearance to our critical infrastructure NOW.

My father who was drafted into the Army was denied security clearance because his mother (my grandmother) was born in Canada. The United States has no security clearance any more. Just look how Trump let Robert Ritchie look at secrets documents....

Ketamine is extremely dangerous...

Hiding what about them? He openly bragged on Twitter in 2022 about coming up with a “peace plan” for Ukraine on a call with Putin. Why that didn’t set the media absolutely aflame at the time remains beyond me.

The media is bought and paid for by Musk and the other ultra-wealthy slimeballs. Journalistic Integrity is a dying concept.

Nah. We deserve to know. He already has access.

A. He violated the law when he dropped out of school while here on a student visa. Even his brother said they were "illegal aliens". B. Isn't it illegal for a private citizen to negotiate with a foreign government on behalf of the US govt. (even if it isn't in office yet)? Can't we deport him?

Clearly not a problem for the majority of US voters. Possibly an advantage, according to them.

No clearance = no access … his choice!!!

Tesla will tank when buyers get tired of hype and ‘full self dying’, Starlink is saturated with relatively few subscribers, and SpaceX’s moneymaker bus will soon have competition from Blue Origin. Hopefully.

He's also said to be busy buying a right-wing politician in the UK at the moment. Maybe he doesn't have the time to answer all those inconvenient questions.

Crony bigot misogynist and weird. Deport him back to South Africa

Ohhhh yeahhhh 😉

Reason #1 why the “department” he’s running is fake.

I don't understand how this guy is the key to space. 🙄

His money. That's it.

it is the unfortunate result of Boeing being unable to pull its head out of its ass

Let's blast him off to somewhere out there

He isn't but has good publicity. The Chinese are apparently planning on adding modules to their space station, and India has landed a probe on the Moon.

We need to make another set of keys.

Because that's how privatization works. Kill off the public sector, and we become reliant on sociopathic billionaires for our needs.

SLS is "public sector" and it's a massive failing.

Underfunded programmes always have problems.

LOL

When engineering gets done intermittently, overall spending increases, but core spending on knowledge reduces. Compare the launch rates of Gemini and Apollo to the current programme. Political pressure doesn't help re: Apollo 1 fire and Space Shuttle accidents.

Yes, that's why public sector is bad for things like this. We also don't want the government manufacturing the cars they use to drive around in. You can't separate public sector from the politicians that cause the problems.

The Boeing Starliner hasn't proven to be a success.

Indeed. It's interesting how Space X is also having problems. Space is dangerous and expensive.

Which is why it would be great if we stopped voting for the ones who specifically promise to cause the problems.

They all cause problems. It pork. SLS is pure pork.

SLS has been called a lot of things but "underfunded" would be a first.

His head is full of it

Good one.

That’s disqualifying. PERIOD 🤬

In 34 days, Trump will grant Elon the highest clearance possible.

If only these billionaire asshats were in cahoots with like, Norway or Sweden or some shit 😭 but no.

Well, this problem didn't stop anyone else that t wanted in his administration the first time, so I doubt this will stop it this time. Muck will have full clearance ASAP once the inauguration is over.

As a Canadian, this seems very familiar to our potential new Prime Minister avoiding his security clearance... 🤔

It’s a problem that he has any security clearance at this point.

Definitely!!!

The man who wants to be the next PM of Canada is ducking a top secret clearance to view classified reports that detail witting and unwitting assistance to foreign governments by his own party members. Due to laws around classified information, names cannot be shared with those without clearance.

I believe Poilievre is avoiding a security clearance because he's compromised, getting foreign help for example. And his wife's father: reminds me of Kushner's corrupt father.

Precisely. Too many skeletons.

There has been an inquiry into foreign interference going on for well over a year. They've already found that there was meddling in the leadership race that gave that same man the chance to even be in the running to be our PM. India's implicated in the murder of a Canadian Sikh has well. Corrupt.

I see how this is a problem.

He's an America problem at the moment, but he is leaking into a UK and German problem too. The poisonous bellend.

So how is Trump getting any clearance at sll?

he got elected to the highest office in the land again and as President he has to have a high security clearance which he shouldn't have given his 34 felony convictions

Geee, I had to do that when I was 18, and an E-1 in the Air Force.

I had to do it for my normal federal worker job. Even the janitors here do.

Yeah, so did I. Though I had a TS-SCI clearance in the USAF. Never needed that high of a clearance for my federal career. But a rich dude "advising" a president should be investigated in depth.

Correct

And, this is a person regarded as a great innovator??

So we are constantly seeing one plausible offense with Elon after the other yet for some fucking reason, no one is getting on that

Yes! I do!

anyone who thinks musk won’t get information because he lacks “a clearance” is not being realistic. He’ll get what he wants and what trump wants him to get. End of story. ‘He doesn’t have that clearance. We promise we won’t tell him.’ gtfoh

doesn't matter. Fat Loaf gave one to Kushner over all the objections of the IC

Good point, Geoff

They should research him and throw him out of country.

Yes. Musk is completely money driven as that also equals power for him. Musk is a deeply unhappy sad person. Musk is just too stupid to understand that fact. Musk will (is) become a toxic infiltrator, a third column, for any or all anti democracy actors. Musk's links to China a unsettling example.

Security clearances don’t mean anything to Republicans anyways.

Just higher pay for the US secrets they wanna sell

I prefer...how should I put it..."besties" of the president-elect who are able to pass muster WITHOUT worrying about questions concerning foreign connections and drug use.

T will just share it all with him in the men"s restroom anyway...

Facts,

Uh, he already has a TS.

None of them including TFG shouldn’t get a security clearance but he’s the next POTUS🫤

I think we all can envision *trump bypassing that process & granting whatever level access he wants. He's already shown us countless times that rules don't apply to him, so don't be surprised if he gets that clearance anyway...Or...trump can be trump & use it as leverage.

He bought a government but they wouldn't throw in a security clearance with it?

Really thought we had hit peak bell-end with Trump, but no, there is always a bigger bell-end waiting in the wings

I love knowing what "bell-end" means, and giggle to myself knowing most other Americans don't. Very descriptive and apt. ::snortles, shrieks with laughter imagining folks scampering off to google it::

Its funny that people want to know?

More like I'm imagining the reaction when they find out, not their curiosity. I love learning new words, especially slang from other countries. And I try to keep up with the latest in my own, too. But I gotta say, there are times when I wish I had not looked something up!! 😐

I love words too. The most colorful the better. Loving British slang.

You don’t security clearance when around Trump, Kid Rock can attest to that.

Big problem - shared by the current leader of the CPC, (and lamentably the poll sitter as next PM of Canada), who refuses to be questioned to get a TS clearance. This stinks like a Jr. B hockey bag.

I HATE ELON MUSK

This is not a problem. This is THE problem!

All probably true, but cmon, you don’t really know what he discussed with his lawyer.

So if none of those questions are asked of him we should be good, right?

He’d prob have to sober up from ketamine too

Investigate the bum!

And citizenship!

Unfortunately Musk like all billionaires has no problem lying.

I wish trump’s advisors and lawyers would have given his Putin loving ass the same advice…

Would there even be a point for him to get higher security clearance? If he fully intends on sticking with DOGE (a made-up entity with no real authority) then higher security clearance doesn't do anything for him.

Republicans don't care about the nation's security. If they did, they would have split from the guy who stored classifieds documents in the spare shitter.

What a joke. We all know he will have as much access as he wants regardless of any formal clearance.

Ketamine addiction is a bitch

He shouldn’t have the clearance he has now. He’s out having private conversations with Putin.

??? #LeaveMeOutOfit #ProtectYourPeace #BlackWomenRest #BoundariesCollection #TiredButResilient

Just like last time, Trump will be handing out top-secret security clearances to people who should NOT have them! I expect he won't waste any time SELLING our secrets too. Ugh. Putin is doing cartwheels in the Kremlin.

That's probably not all he's hiding

World's greatest democracy cough

Wow! Devious snake.

Anyone close to Trump is rotten to the core.

And it isn’t like he needs it. Trump will tell him anything.

This guy…the more you look the more you like. Seriously …he is even going to out-scum 45.

A very big problem indeed.

Once Trump is in office, as president he can waive the security clearance requirements. I think that's how a number of his previous staffers got their clearances.

That's Not A Good Thing.

I wonder how much data the NSA has on his conversations with Putin.

He's hiding his drug use, too.

that's really kind of his personal choice, isn't it?

Not very skilfully.

Trump will waive them until Musk gets too much of the limelight.

So, Musk is using the Pierre Poilievre playbook. They both want plausible deniability and the chance to hide their "questionable" relationships.

Leon will be in jail — probably very soon after he annoys the shit out of trump. Two psychopaths can’t get along for long. That’s why they keep them separate in the loony bin

www.thebulwark.com/p/eat-the-bi...

It was a problem with Jared too. Look what happened there. Trump will just give it too him. Trump doesn’t give about National Security if there is $$$ to be made.

In Canada, we have the very same problem with the leader of the Official Opposition - he will not apply for the higher clearance - he pretends it's on principle, but it's as dangerous as it is ridiculous to not know more about someone with so much access to our ministries.

We should have made a law forbidding business owners from holding federal positions

He's a comprised person in more ways than one.

All of his security contracts from SpaceX should have been pulled when he did that stunt with blocking starling in Ukraine, so Russians can bomb a port.

Wow

Hey, if he’s going through Cash Patel’s FBI for the clearance he’ll pass with flying colors.

Quite the circus.

Whatever he knows, just assume the Russians know it too.

Trump will reward him clearance, anyway, like he did Jared and Ivanka.

Pedo Guy doesn't have a security clearance.

George, we are having a similar problem here in Canada. The so-called ‘Prime Minister in waiting’ —a right wing Putin Sock Puppet, will not submit to a security check. Interesting indeed. Here’s a link. www.cbc.ca/news/politic... George, we love you! Please follow!

Nothing to see here. Just your average mega/MAGA billionaire who couldn't otherwise get a security clearance being the right hand of a president who corruptly dealt with classified documents/secrets. What could possibly go wrong?

Having conversations with Putin IS ILLEGAL per Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953. He's breaking the law without a second thought - just like his Fuhrer.

If we are going to deport anyone, we should start with Musk and the Murdochs...and have the government take over their businesses.

Cannot make this up. We've elected an insurrectionist, unpatriotic, felon, and he's choosing like people to genuflect for him. So friggin sad.

Why would he have to hide them? Do you genuinely think it would make a difference if he said he used drugs and talks to foreign leaders? You might be a little less cynical than I am.

Scary stuff. Upside? Probably one less lunatic with the codes.

Hell yes, it's a major problem...

Hence his earlier threats to his perceived enemies.

He doesn’t really need a higher clearance because Trump will give him everything anyway, then pardon himself.

"We don't need no stinkin' security clearances"

But yet he'll still get all the security clearance. Just won't be public. We live in the most corrupt country in the world.

I don’t think Musk can resist the temptation. He has all the self-control of a 2yr old.

We are cooked voting in these corrupt morons.

Yes, I can see that's a problem.

Considering even lower level clearances demand you explain every overseas connection, even if it’s just having pokémon friends… I think not being able to pass a security clearance is a requirement for Trump… 😔

Unfortunately your country is already compromised with Trump's election

Everything is a problem. It’s a blanket problem. I’m surprised I can still manage to be surprised at all anymore.

He'll get it anyway

He has no business having security clearance he’s a civilian just like the rest of us

His drug use should prevent him from having any security clearance

He's lost somewhere in limbo, he is salivating about being the head of a country not just any country but a large country and he finding out no matter how much money he has he still will never be the president of the United States.

But the government won't see any problem. Besides his $200 million dollar payment to Trump the Pentagon wants his rockets and his Starlink so bad they wouldn't care where his loyalties lay.

Elon is a problem. One of our biggest two.

He'll also have to explain that period when he was technically an illegal immigrant.

And while it would never happen, that would be cause for having his citizenship revoked. I seriously hate that stupid little man with a passion.

Would be nice to see him deported, yes. Especially now that South Africa has a majority Black government. He'd hate that so much.

Yes,maybe, but he may not want to answer to anyone..

I'm further concerned about questions regarding his drug use getting avoided. Not FORMER drug use, just his drug use.... Uhhhhhhhhh....

The ‘thinking’ likely going on over at 1600: Well? Svengali and Rasputin never had to undergo the body cavity search known colloquially as ‘background checks.’

Either that or the 10+ year k-hole. I wanna see what happens if hes put into detox.

Oh, what a tangled web we weave. when first we practice to deceive. Shakespeare

Is this what Musk's lawyers actually shared with you?

Tge only problem is musKKK will lie his fat ass off.

@cnn.com are Muskrat and the US government fighting over the Leon satellites? Was Leon honest when described all they could do? Can they do more or less?

I'm sure Trump will interfere somehow so that he doesn't have to answer those questions.

The stuff you have to deal with for security clearance is such that nobody would want to go through it. I don't blame him for this at all.

it doesn't make him any more effective at his job and it makes his life worse. Who signs up for that that doesn't care about a slight bump in pay for dealing with it?

He IS the problem...

Yes it’s a problem but like an extinction-level asteroid headed toward Earth there’s little to do unless the Bruce Willis crew from Armageddon is available. I think the Trump team is brazen enough to not give a damn. And who’ll challenge them? The Senate? Supreme Court? It’s game, set, match.

Big huge problem. An illegal that bought his citizenship a few years ago.

We must leave the U.S 🏳️‍⚧️🌈

And perhaps his real immigration status.

Elon is such an untrustworthy motherfucker. And he’s gaining more and more and more power and influence. How wonderful!

This is a big Fucking problem.

So does he have a clearance? These topics would come up on a Secret level clearance (below a TS or TS/SCI) and he would have to truthfully complete the SF86.

I see it as a problem; I also see it as a safeguard. Just be glad this lunatic can't run for president. 😡

I see it as staus quo anti. It WILL get vastly worse.

And his beddy-bye habit of ketamine

Why would he need security clearance if he can just use Trump’s toilet and see everything anyway?

Can’t trump just override the security clearance like he did with his kids?

www.nytimes.com/2024/12/17/t...

See my post on his being investigated

Obviously all of the orange shit stains Associates are less then clean & have plenty of skeletons in their closet. Think about the ones he's trying to get pushed through investigations. imagine how dirty the others are.