Absolutely

Absolutely!

Yes, speaking of the wealthy paying their taxes. It's a cold winter week here, & I notice that the nonprofits running the warming shelters, providing healthcare, meals and humanizing games & laughter are NOT any of our local churches. They need to pay their share.

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How about neither!

Churches should have been taxed from the beginning.

Like anything else, if they abuse it, they lose it.

Jesus told the Pharisees that everyone should pay taxes, including religious organizations.

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I agree. Tax the Hell out of the churches.

It only makes sense.

Tax the grifters.....

That is a must!

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Everybody saying they'd take this trade is full of shit. It's a bluff we can laugh about because we know the other side wouldn't accept it either.

Wow! It’s a conversation.

I'm just saying we're talking a big game for a trade we don't actually want. If Congress proposed a bill to do exactly this, every one of us would be on our way to DC to protest.

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Yeah who they think they are to tell us how to live our lives.

Feel the same way when Mr. Fauci speaks.

Can I get a degree?

I want ALL religions in schools, not just the bastardized adaptation of MAGA Christianity.

I want the IRS in schools. It will be easier to tax the rich when every American child is trained in forensic accounting.

When I first saw this, I thought, “Yeah! Damn straight!” But after thinking about it, I don’t want religion in schools, AND I want churches to pay taxes.

Why not both? 🤷

Extreme Liberalism is a Religion!

Oh cool. What god? The one that says no child should starve, no child should go unloved, no child should go uneducated, the god that says we need homes for the people not more mansions for the minority. It's been hard as an agnostic/atheistic/deismist without a god to use as a crutch; Oh thank god.

I hope like me, you are enlightened before it is too late. Just because you are unable to understand God, does not mean he does not exist.

Yes I know, before anything else existed I became bored and created gods to amuse me. Alas all to easy to understand gods, so I created humans to really befuddle me. Oh and by the way, your "God" isn't a he.

Can't wait to hear you prove he is not a he. I guess you discredit the Bible as factual, except when it suits your narrative.

lol Sorry you should know this. You must have faith. You must believe. I, don't have to prove shit. It's one of the things I taught your "God". PS you should read some of the stories the bible was based upon. Way way earlier, still by man though, like your bible (lol King James right?)

If you are right, what happens to us after death? If you are wrong, is it really worth risking eternity in Hell? Funny how you make stupid statements and when asked to prove, you can't and like a teenager claim you don't have to. 😂

It works for everyone.

I want the IRS in MegaChurches and corporations such as PACs

Yes!!

Tax the churches, especially the weird mega churches, for crying out loud.

IRS lost against Scientology.

Tax the churches 🤘

Churches and non-profits should be required to use a certain percentage of their income yearly for the common good and public outreach to qualify to be tax-free. Some non-profits are 100 percent volunteer and give all, while the mega churches give nothing.

I want to have sex in any house of worship I choose.

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Yes!

Yes!

That is NOT a fair trade. The damage of religion in schools can not be undone by taxation

Agreed. The progressive religion being forced in schools today has created gender dysmorphia that is going to harm generations.

What if we taxed them out of existence and used their hoards of riches to provide mental healthcare to the people. Seems like it would help to me. Undone, no; Remedied partially, maybe.

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Nah. Arrest churches - COLLAR & CLOTH- that violate Separation. Report violations to IRS, the enforcement agency of tax-exempt status compliance. Anonymous IRS form is online. Easy.

100%! I am old enough to remember when prayer was in school. I was raised atheist, prayer made me feel as if I didn't belong!

It's very fair.

All religious institutions should be taxed. It is the cost of existing in the country.

I’ll drink to that

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Largest corporation in the world.Tax the hell out of them.

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Period

Damn straight!

While we're at it, we should take "In God We Trust" off the money and put "In Money We Trust" on the churches.

No. No religion in schools. But we should definitely be taxing churches, especially mega churches.

Exactly

Works for me

Should be that way when church leaders are driving home sports cars

Very fair

The rich us nonprofits to get richer

Ditto!

Amen

Very, very fair!

Right, it's absurd that such ideologically driven systems of control face no taxes while getting ever more involved in politics. If they want to be political, particularly with their bigotry, patriarchy, and oppressive ideologies... they need to pay for it at tax time at the very least!

i vote for CONSTANTLY.

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Pardon the pun, but AMEN to that!

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It made me very angry when my trumper Aunt told me that her pastor had pushed members of the congregation to vote for trump, so 'yes' tax the hell out of them and maybe real Christianity will make its way back into the church!!

What really gets me is the king James Bible specifically states the separation of church and state. Give that which is Ceasars to Ceasar. Yet these Bible scholars???. Sorry my golden shovel award.

How about neither in both.

Tax ungodly wealth no matter where: churches, non-profits, corporations, families. Either wealth serves US or we will serf wealth.

Church leaders know when too much is too much.

Perhaps they wouldn't mind being taxed then...

I think Francis would have no problem. But about half the church are Trumpists ion the US and similarly bent elsewhere.

I don't disagree. To be honest, he looks quite ill and I do not think he is long for this earth. His successor is unlikely to be as liberal as he has been.

Yep

I constantly struggle with the do no murder.

To fund what?

Said schools they want to sieze :P

Increasing taxes on the wealthy could also decrease the tax burden on regular people that live paycheck to paycheck. Everybody would like it if their taxes suddenly dropped, and the wealthy wouldn't see a dent in their net worths. Plus the rich have strategies to lower their taxes anyway.

Flat tax or Fair tax. Easy peasy.

A billionaire could afford to pay 80% of their wealth to taxes, and they'd still be rich. Plus they can afford to find strategies to lower their tax burden legally. I don't know you, but I bet you'd go broke if 80% of your money went to taxes. A flat tax for everybody would be crazy.

Are you an accountant?

I never understood how a smart person could support a flat tax. That tax would either be way more than a 9 to 5 worker could afford to pay, or it would be so little that the rich would practically be paying pennies. That would destroy social security, and everything else.

Duh

Wait, I thought you were saying you support a flat tax. You don't?

Either flat or fair tax. Either one would be better than what we have.

So why did you say "duh" then? I was saying a smart person would know a flat tax is not a good idea. You seem to like it.

Social security is running out of money, and Republicans and Dems rely on it. That's why both Biden and Trump have vowed not to touch it. Increasing taxes on the wealthy wouldn't impact their way of life at all, and it would fund necessary federal programs like SS. There's no reason not to.

The people who give money to churches have already had their money taxed.

Yeah, you're not thinking about income. Anybody who pays you already had their income taxed. You have to do the same for your income. When churches are small it's fine, but megachurches are getting away with a lot. They're basically whole communities themselves making millions tax-free.

They don’t make income. Their members give offerings to the church.

Megachurches have changed things. They operate like a business, and raise funds in more ways than just offerings. They can invest in real estate and rent out massive properties. They can also sell tickets to concerts at their venue, which can have large theater seating. We're talking about millions.

Pastors and staff have to make a living. Being a pastor doesn’t mean you don’t have a family to support. The building no matter the size of the church has to be maintained and utilities paid. Other then those things one would have to see the books at a church to know if those are true.

So we agree: Tax ungodly wealth.

Those assets are what really need to be looked at. They could be anything. Once a church is operating like a business with substantial revenue, I think it makes sense for its tax status to change.

If you do apply that to black churches your side will lose votes. But go for it.

Make sure you apply that to black churches. They are far more openly politically active.

So?

If you can’t talk to everyone in your local body of Christ (ie church) every month, your church is too large. God’s power is manifested in our weakness.

That’s where jr pastors and associate pastors come in. Even at a church with 200 people the preacher can’t talk personally to everyone unless there is a specific need.

I’m talking about every single parishioner having personal relationships with all the others. Pastors are a piece of the body of Christ. He being the foundation.

Yeah gospel concerts. We have to treat all churches equally. A church Being fiscally responsible isn’t wrong

The type of concert doesn't even matter. It's about how a church is operating, and the revenue being generated. Massive multi-million dollar megachurches should be responsible. I think that includes having their tax status re-evaluated if they've evolved into a full-on business.

What classifies it as a business to you?

Churches pay performers to appear by having offerings and or selling tickets and then paying the performers to appear. Money is also used from that to clean the church and provide food and refreshments. Those things do cost money.

Oh, I don't know.... roads, hospitals, food banks....

They'll still write off the SUVs as a business expense.

No, IRS in churches does not infringe on rights of people but religion in schools DOES. I am sorry, I ain't making any compromise just like Ragan said, "we don't negotiate with dumbasses"

So do I.

Oh hell yah.

That could feed some kids!

That's good . Especially the Mega churches.

They are not true people of God. Or they would be far from Trump.

Absolutely!!

Seems reasonable 😅

I would vote for churches being taxed.

Way past the time for this! Mega churches are just another scam for people who were failed by our educational system.

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Honestly, that needs to goddamn happen already.

I'd say that should apply to evangelic and mormon churches, the former being an actual for-profit cult.

"amen"

AMEN! wait...was that inappropriate?

Religious people also pay taxes, so why should they not have schools that represent them.

No "if" about it.

I’m surprised the churches aren’t listed on the stock exchange.

They don’t share their profits with anybody… Show’s what they really care about.

Sounds about right

Thank you! Just another reason I remain an atheist!

I would still disagree with religion being taught in schools but strongly agree to taxing religious institutions.

The question would be, which religion there are many of them in US. So no that wouldn't be possible. Mega-churches that are in reality businesses should pay taxes that's for sure.

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That’s because the IRS already exists in the media, which is your church.

Mega churches - are they mentioned in Revalations along the same lines of False Prophets? Their theater is top-notch, though.

Makes perfect sense to me

Feeding people, clothing, counselling, uplifting, healing, sheltering, employing and empowering the people maybe could get a reduced tax because they are doing the work of a functional society’s government. While the actual government often does not do so. Gudwaras and sanctuaries do their share

Yep. Ithink the intellectual and balanced study of religions in school and the effect in history, the connection of belief and how of changes action belongs in schools. I think that churches that are just money piles need to pay their share to benefit society, but I think the church communities —-

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Sadly, it's fake.

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Agree!

No representation without taxation!!!

That is the best post of the day! Love it!

Either way,the IRS should be there.

Bravo to whomever penned that gem.

Yes!!!

Yup- I am all good with that too 👍

Sounds like a plan.

The idea that churches should not be taxed is rooted in the concept that churches are providing services to the community that would otherwise fall to the government. Tangible services like feeding, housing, clothing people in need. They should have to prove it annually to maintain their status.

Best comment here! This is exactly what should be happening. A certain set percentage of their proceeds should be required to go to local charity as well. We have churches all over town. If they all helped our homeless population we would have a much better chance. They’d rather finance hate.

Cheers for Sisko to that post!

Sounds like a plan!

Bingo

Amen.

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Agree.

Yep!

I totally agree that CHURCHES NEED TO PAY TAXES. They have gotten involved in politics so no more FREE LOADING off the American people.

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Good rhetoric, but most churches have little to hide and even less money!

then why do Megachurches exist, and more are popping up. Why do we have these megalomaniacs like Charlie Kirk? Joel Osment? TAX THE CHURCHES. No church needs a damn amphitheater.

Very, very few people attend mega-churches; and even mega-churches have very little profit as far as I can tell. Income goes toward staff.

Good way to get tax money

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Ditto!

I'll support that!

Should have happened when we brought in taxation, but still not too late.

Seems very reasonable to me!

Religious institutions should be non profit organisations or classed as charities and have their profits/ losses investigated by the gov tax office.

You get that, the pipeline is this - Next few generations are all indoctrinated into religious extremism, they become the government of tomorrow, they repeal the taxation of churches, but keep the religious indoctrination. Offer a trade and they'll always repeal your half the moment they can.

I'd consider the latter, never the former.

Neither please. I really hate these “I want this then because you want/get that.”

no thanks, that is not fair - no religion in school except teaching about all religions. Then fixing IRS loopholes and increasing IRS scrutiny to prevent abuse of the church exemption.

Should say, Public Schools

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Yup

Way past due! Should have been done a long time ago!!

Religion out of schools gays off the planet. The only thing the 30,000 sects of Christianity the Sikhs the branches of Islam and Judaism and Hindus agree on is no taxes on our buildings and land and businesses.

Thanks for giving me a reason to drop your nonsense out of my timeline.

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Does the Catholic Church have any money? They had to pay out For all the pedophiles.

Absolutely!

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I okay with that even if they don't get religion in school.

Any church that can afford to advertise on network television can afford to pay taxes.

Its sort of a good quip, but the IRS belongs at the bottom of the Mariana Trench. As an agnostic, I don't mind religion in schools to a degree, but the degree of representation better be somewhat based on global population...so loads of education about Islam or get out.

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If churches were taxed, we'd never have another budget problem.

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YES!!!!

That would be great of course but lawmakers on both sides are always afraid to enact laws that will cost them their re election particularly the evangelical Christians. Now when it comes to cutting down Veterans, Medicare and Social Security benefits, let's see who makes the first move!

I’ve been told that the prostitute mentioned in Revelation 17 actually means religion around the earth that has power over governments. It says that the governments, represented as a beast, will destroy her.

Funny, when I mention the need for the IRS to complete a review of all churches, to identified those who have become multi-billion dollar businesses, don't actually provide charity or are political entities, the fanatics go silent. Hmmmm

No. "The Establishment Clause prohibits school administrators and other school employees from promoting or discouraging prayer or any other religious expression or activities. They are, after all, government employees."

Do ittttttt

Sounds fair to me too!

It's all fun and games until little Johnny fails Satanism 101.

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Why not? Not everyone follows Christianity. Some people still follow the pagan gods/traditions, some follow other religions. You either teach all forms of religion or none at all. No-one should be forced to listen to christian prayers/teaching if they are NOT Christian.

I'm agreeing with you. And I think that people should be taught about religion, not to follow it. Their parents may teach them to follow it, but if they understand that it's not based on provable facts (that's the point of religion IMO -- faith in something you can't prove), 1/2

they'll be able to make their own informed decisions. 2/2

Informed decision making would help people recognize the false, cult-like churches and may help solve some of the problems. I grew up in a small church and did not understand all of the anti-church mentality until I started paying attention to some of these other "pastors".

I am Catholic. However, I don't believe religion should be taught in public schools. If parents want their kids to learn religion then send them to a religious education.

Same here.

I'm Catholic too and I agree. It's just that the idea of an informed decision appealed to me. But that's not the job of a public school. What could be useful for older students is some way to help them identify unhealthy/toxic groups without making it a religious thing as not everyone hides there.

The real people of faith need to take back their religions in much the same way that real patriots need to take back our country. The usurpers have corrupted way too much.

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That head shake between vance and trump says it all. They won't be merciful to the vulnerable. And especially not to the minorities in the USA.

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Sounds like a typical US slogan designed to be triggering. I reject it.

These pastors, live in houses that drip excess. some Mega-Churches, those Pastors are worth MILLIONS, but there are people living hungry all around them. Greed. They live like the mega rich and should pay taxes like the rest of us. Perhaps research scripture on humility. "Thou Shalt not Covet."

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Thanks for giving me a reason to drop your nonsense out of my timeline.

Anytime.

Existing law prohibits tax exempt organizations from engaging in political activity, but the government is afraid to enforce the law against churches since religion is the third rail of politics.

AND THE FBI Unfortunately, too many of those places cloak, the sexual abuse of children I’m not saying they’re all like that. I’m just saying the ones that are need to be weeded out, it’s literally a plague

Absofuckinglutely!

Ok lets get this started, and just to be extra fair make sure the taxes they owe are retroactive for past years just like anyone else would be charged when evading taxes.

We can put this money to good use like feeding the hungry, housing the homeless and all the good things that greedy churches forgot to do.

I agree, Especially in the case of Mega-churches where the pastors have their own mansions and so on.

Mega churches are for profit therefore they should be taxed. Not only that they are in politics to.

Indeed they are and I would not be shocked if they were audited and it turned out to be a massive embezzlement operation.

i want "god businesses" and "church building based political organizations" to be taxed to fund all the social safety net programs that "christian" republicans want to cut, since they're supposedly all about charity and such they shouldn't mind doing their part? simple solution.

Absoeffinglutely!!!

Not only that; but if you attend, charge admission/tickets for seating, charge for anything purchased within, and have all donations sent directly to the IRS to be divided between funding absolute necessities that the country needs.

You might as well say that you want to abolish church organizations.

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Should be the law!

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I’m sick of the mega churches raking in millions - involved in no social programs - evading state & fed taxes. In many communities, they are the only organizations able to afford large buildings while independent entrepreneurs struggle to cover rent & taxes.

I wasn't I that one. Missionaries don't get very much

No, I’m sure you didn’t. But your church denomination or state board likely did.

Both out of both.

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