ICE says it’s just doing what it’s told. The president of El Salvador says he’s powerless. Trump officials are acting like they’re not responsible. But the monster’s already been unleashed. And when a modern-day Gestapo like this is allowed to thrive, where will it all end?
Someone should remind these "agents" that claiming "I was just following orders" did not fly during the Nuremberg Trials. They WILL be prosecuted, along with Trump, for treason.
DEATH OF INNOCENTS Just look at PALESTINE
Absolutely 💯👎🤬🤬🤬🤬
During the Nuremberg Trials, the "following orders" defense was rejected as a valid excuse for war crimes. The International Military Tribunal (IMT) established the principle that individuals are responsible for their own actions, even when acting under the command of a superior.
It's pretty clear that Trump has the power to do it, but just doesn't want to, because Abrego Garcia, once home, will no doubt share his horrific experience.
And the stories of other victims who should be rescued.
All the brown people who voted for that rasict trash in the Whitehouse did this to us. May they suffer as this family is suffering.
Its going to end with bullets. It seems inevitable now. That 75 million people deliberately ignored the fact trump was a convicted rapist fucking felon, and chose to elect him, because pronouns, shows the world that this is exactly what America truly is. I haven't slept in months.
"just doing our job" didn't hold up in the Neuremburg trials. I swear these folks are just outright ignoring history
Every one of puppy killers ICE detail should be brought up on charges when this is over. They act no different than the Nazis rounding up Jews. That video showing them breaking windows of the car disgusts me. Just like everything else going on they do
I hope they understand “I was only following orders” is not going to save them!!!
What a coincidence! There's this neat place called federal court where they just so happen to make those decisions of who's responsible. Then these friendly people called Marshalls come pick you up for a play date at club fed.
At this point AOC could get arrested and Americans would stand around with their hands in their pockets. The bell is tolling.
You voted for an authoritarian administration. It’s only going to get worse. They fucking broadcast Project 2025. But most of you thought on voting day it was more important to bitch out a coffee server for forgetting cinnamon sprinkles.
"Just following orders" was not a defence then, it isn't now, and it won't be in the future either.
Goebbels, Himmler, Mengele, they were all just “following orders”, they said. So did the SS. Somehow the judges in Nuremberg didn’t buy this excuse. Maybe someone should be sending them a copy of the US constitution.
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Not well!! We must stop it, NOW, and demand accountability
It ends in war.
Republicans have long been tied to German Nazis going back to the 1930's. The fact that they're now open and upfront about it is not surprising to me at all. They've had great cover over the years. Even Godwin's Law gave them cover where even mentioning it lost you the discussion. 🙄
Godwin is here on Bluesky. He agrees with calling things what they are.
The "Law" has already done it's damage. Right wingers used it to their advantage. He probably hates that but it happened.
There. Answer to another thread, but similar topic: bsky.app/profile/mnem...
Same excuses used by SS during WWII
Sadly it needs to be said "WHAT THE FECKIN HELL ARE ALL THOSE GUNS FOR, IF NOT FOR A SITUATION LIKE THIS. ?"
The mission of the DOJ Is Not to do what they're Told! The mission of the Department of Justice is to uphold the rule of law, to keep our country safe, and to protect civil rights. Their not doing any of this.
How come Kristi Noem was let in the prison in El Salvador but Chris Van Hollen was not?
Reminder that the Nuremberg trials had to be pushed for. This’ll take reporting to global authorities and demanding said trials to be held in order for ICE’s dogs to face any consequences, as our country’s authorities are either largely impotent or evil.
Kilmar is most likely deceased. Trump is playing the “If you can’t find the body, you can’t prove he’s dead” card with the news outlets.
It makes me want to vomit thinking it.
Has anyone seen a breakdown of the citizenship of ppl sent to the gulag in El Salvador? Are they all Latin American (which countries?), or did we throw in an Irish or Slav for variety?
Where's the army?
in camps at least or worse
There's no need to ask George, we know where it ends. Where it always ends. The forces that are unleashed always lead to death, injury, and injustice. It's the fucking REASON so many due process laws exist, it's the fucking REASON people get angry and incensed about this type of behavior.
George, I’m seriously so sad about the government bs
To claim be just following Orders is no excuse - a lesson some trias in Nürnberg teached.
Huge "Befehl ist befehl"-vibes, no ?
doing what a person is told is not a Legal defense, if they were told to commit a crime and they then commited that crime the person is a criminal! orange felon told them to is not a defense!
Democrats should be keeping track who in ICE is breaking the law!
Would be interesting to talk to these ICE folks. Wonder if they are the Proud Boys or just people who like to be cruel
When will it end? 2 ways.... 1. Only white is left. 2. GOP gone. Pick one.
"I was just following orders" was not a valid defense at the Nuremberg Trials
It was. And that's the problem. Even mass murderers git pardoned. From death to life to free in the 1950th Google Martin Sandberger SS as an example
Oh they’ll eventually find that out that hard way.
Eventually it all crumbles and all of them with it
They don’t see themselves losing power ever so it means little. There’s no great foreign power that’s going to topple this Nazi regime and set up Nuremberg like trials. The USA couldn’t hold him responsible for an insurrection. The USA is lost, and a lot of the population support this crime
Observing from Wales I agree; I can't see any way Trumpoids will give up power. People optimistically talk of 'next election'; there will be no 'next election', some sort of emergency will be called to cancel it as 'unsafe'. The boot will keep on stamping.
Spot on my friend :)
This is that prison... And actual U.S. taxpayer funded death camp.
Remember to switch to satellite view: maps.app.goo.gl/8oj5ArUw7QeD... You can also view the 2022 and 2023 satellite images that show the evolution of the killing area and bloodstained concrete.
I do not know where it will end, only that the trail to it will be bloody.
The defence "I was only following orders" failed utterly in Nuremberg.
as Bob Dylan put it Come senators, congressmen Please heed the call Don’t stand in the doorway Don’t block up the hall For he that gets hurt Will be he who has stalled There’s a battle outside and it is ragin’ It’ll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin’
Only following orders, huh? Where have we heard that before?
Once Trump is gone all the Republi-cons will change their tunes when the prosecution begins for his administration people. “I never really liked the guy”. Trump? Hardly knew him.
Doing “what your told”, if illegal, makes you culpable, and not excused.
Brainwashed by Fox Goebbels style news. Same thing happened in Germany when the first Synagogue was burnt to the ground and no one helped put the fire out, no one got charged. After that, it was game on. The Germans had been exposed to tons of propaganda a year or so before, which primed the pump.
No one will take responsibility, and yet Joe Biden was responsible for every evil under the sun. Who do you believe? I believe the guy that gave us 4 years of incomparable growth and stability....not the guy who isn't, doesn't, and can't.
“Just following orders”
Doing what your told, didn't hang at Nuremburg, except that those who tried it, hung at Nuremburg...
It’s not just ICE though is it, America has more Federal law enforcement agencies than most people have teeth, why aren’t they doing something? There appears to be a large proportion of Americans who moved to evil with lightening speed.
When people get angry enough to act on their words and hold the world to account, when the last man has stopped being paid for promoting or producing misery, and when the emperor starts fearing the shadows
I’m ready with my rusty and dull-bladed guillotine when these jackboots come busting down my neighbors door.
Well, we all know how it ended last time so get ready for war. Thanks USA...
Why were the J6 criminals, that received due process, called hostages by the President, but Kilmar Abrego Garcia and the others being held in El Salvador are not considered hostages?
People getting shot standing their ground against these fascist terrorists. It's coming. ☠️🤦♀️
Looks like US citizens are targeted already: bsky.app/profile/llan...
Oh ok...just like the Gestapo was only doing what it was told to do.
Just doing what they're told..it is an excuse as old as time.
We know where it will end, we have seen it before. Welcome to 1984 - war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength. Unless...
Someone should sue the US govt over ICE on the grounds that their tactics are consistently unconstitutional and put this topic DIRECTLY in the courts now. Dissolve ICE!
Yeah, about that dystopian nightmare America....
Only following orders?
I imagine there are similarities to be found in the genesis of the Nazi SS.
I know what happens I read the book I believe I just got The goodbye look
They need to remember that the defense of “Just following orders” didn’t work out to well for the last guys when it was time to face their crimes against humanity.
Tyranny is where it all ends
Supreme Court rules Trump officials must 'facilitate' release of man deported to El Salvador. And: www.youtube.com/watch?v=hacY...
Multiplied many thousandfold, . . . petty acts of refusal may, in the end, make an utter shambles of the plans dreamed up by generals and heads of state.” James Scott, Two Cheers for Anarchism
It will lead to death in the streets like nazi germany. It has to be said. We’re all just burying our heads in the sand. THIS is how the holocaust happened. We’re repeating it.
Seems like they might be putting regular Americans into situations where they have nothing to lose. Who knows what people might do when faced with something like that?
May even gullotine choke hold a few Judges that were allegedly sex trafficking socioeconomic challenged preteens. What I do every other weekend is my business.
It will end when we the people put a stop to it. No more finger wagging, no more peaceful protests. Armed resistance now!
ICE, Historically is the USA equivalent to NAZI Gestapo they are a puke stain that needs to be completely eradicated at all costs.
The judge needs to hold every person involved including these individuals following orders. Heavy fines and jail sentences
"I was just following orders." That excuse didn't work for Nazis at the Nuremberg trials.
To have lived through this kind of horror and villification once is awful, to live through it twice and see history repeating itself must be beyond comprehension @georgetakei.bsky.social I really feel for everyone affected by this, but also you in particular given what was done to you as a child.
It ends in suffering, heartbreak, and violence. It's all bad.
Just following orders isn’t a viable offense as noted in the Nuremberg trials.
Why did I do it? Just following what the voices in my head told me.
May the gods above help us all now. 🥹🥲😇
This administration, and I use that term loosely, is paying El Salvador to keep these people as prisoners.
Just following orders is the worst. Name the agents, then disband the agency.
Feels like a good ol’ upside down Bible moment.
Time to start shooting back before it is too late.
ICE, Brown Shirts, different name, same function.
We all know where it ends. 😢
As in the Nurnberg trials, saying "I didn't know ..." is no defense.
Before the next election opposition members of Congress will be in concentration camps.
The “I was just following orders” line is not an excuse, a reason, or acceptable- on any level. They know right from wrong & lawful from unlawful. As for the wish version of General Zod & Trump- they absolutely are not powerless & totally responsible.They can fix this & won’t. History won’t be kind.
The Hague awaits
The symbolism of those uniforms is really rather chilling. It's far beyond a simple need for some physical protection, it's clearly designed to also be intimidating.
"Just following orders" they said, "not guilty" they said, "guilty as charged" the judges said, the Nuremberg trials set a precedent for what is to come for those ICE workers, they have a choice to reject orders, going long with them makes them complicit...
It's not just hurt people that hurt people. It's stupid people. MAGA, and it's enablers.
Just following orders isn’t a defense- we’ve established that internationally
Befehl ist Befehl?
"Befehl ist Befehl"......
Well, when people see ICE coming for them, and are terrified of being sent to El Salvadore Death Camps, they are going to start shooting. Ice is going to lose some "agents".
"I was just following orders" was the most popular catchphrase in Nuremberg.
Trump has spent his life fighting the justice system. He has ALWAYS seen himself as above the law. This final round is his lifelong wet dream to simply eliminate his “foe.” We must change how the wealthy are always able to get around the rules.
#ResistTrump ##TakeYourAmericaBack before it's really too late! Step outside, form and join the resistance. #TakeItBack!
Tyrants & their henchmen have no place in America or in our political system. Virginia seal is not a threat; rather, it’s a figurative constant reminder of the price paid & importance of sustaining our democratic republic! As Virginians like Washington, Jefferson, Mason, Madison & others knew.
It’s going to get worse before it gets better.
I would hate to be taken away and locked up by those men, but I would hate infinitely more to be one of them.
All of the people in ICE who claim they are simply doing what they were told…so did the Gestapo. They are on the wrong side and will be remembered as monsters…as will anyone working for ICE. They will have to lie to their children and grandchildren about what they did.
They are DonTheCon’s thugs. Drunk with their ignorance, racism, anonymity, and protection from prosecution. They share a violence fetish with the Donold the felon.
Civil War. What else is there?
George - they are already arresting US CITIZENS and detaining them. floridaphoenix.com/2025/04/17/u...
The "I was just following orders" defense didn't work at Nuremburg, and it shouldn't work here.
I bet they are all proud boys too.
Historically this usually leads to war. Where that war ends and how many people needlessly die has yet to be determined.
Once a few dozen get killed in self-defense maybe they’ll step back a bit. Far more armed citizens than Gestapo.
There is an END in sight. It begins with repression and intimidation unleashed on minorities, hard-working people, and ends in gulags and flights to prison camps without an appearance in court. Two Americans were deported witohut a hearing or criminal conviction. Oh, the END has already started.
It will end in violence
You have guns dont you? Isnt this what that second amendment is all about? Get to work.
Mark your calendars and let the Felon Administration know the Second American Revolution starts! We took down the oligarchy once; The People will do it again. The assault on Americans ends when we remove the Felon in #TheLieHouse! If you don’t show up April 19th, you were complicit!
Burn your local ICE office to the ground. www.ice.gov/contact/fiel... www.courts.wa.gov/content/publ...
Many of these so-called ICE agents are likely vigilantes and right wing militia (e.g., proud boys). They wear masks and have generic labels ("Police") on their vests. The orange one and his minions have already declared war. Jan 6 was just a test run.
Being employed by ICE doesn't negate personal moral responsibility. No matter how hard they try.
But, but, they're just following orders...
I just wrote friend that ICE will be Trump’s enforcing goon squad. Congress looking to triple+ their current budget- more agents, private contractors & detention centers. “Normalizing”
Build a 100 ft wall around them and throw snack bars and water bottles to them. For F…ing EVER.
It'll end when the people rise up against this bullshit. If Trump and his bootlicking followers think that won't happen, maybe they should try cracking open a history book. America's about to become France.
All the players (Trump, Rubio, ICE, DHS, Trump's sycophants) involved are claiming that they are not responsible & are powerless to remedy this unlawful incarceration, like they are playing "hot potato" of who's in charge & who's responsible. Typical Trump to only take credit for positive things.
We all know this is bad, but nobody of consequence is doing or saying anything against it. Which leads me to question the level of constitutionallity of these actions. If I were to defend myself against these domestic tyrants, what laws am I breaking? As an American citizen
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I'm sure Garcia is dead by now.
Thing is, THEY all have a CHOICE. They can do his bidding, because they want to; they can do what is right and refuse the orders
Nazis were just doing what they were told.
They followed orders because they wanted to. They could have quit their job any time.
“i’m just following orders” is not a valid excuse
"I was just following orders." Disgusting after World War 2. Disgusting now.
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Either later in this life or the next, ‘I was just following orders’ doe not excuse following illegal and immoral orders.
And just who is ICE? Likely hate group members, Oranges little minions.
Easy. Americans fight back. You see masked men dragging a woman from the sidewalk, you stop them.
Oh wait. "I was just doing what I was told." Now someone remind me where we've heard that before?
El Salvador's president knows exactly what he's doing and Trumpie's minions know they're responsible. ICE...geez.
F*in' cowards with their body armor, their weapons, their faces all covered up, their anonymity.
In the end, “I was just following orders” wasn’t enough for Hitler’s minions. They were executed or jailed for life. I believe justice will prevail. The People are done watching.
Now ICE is kidnapping US-born citizens and refusing to obey judges who vetted their birth certificates. floridaphoenix.com/2025/04/17/u...
Now this is shocking. And by shocking i mean no suprise to anyone
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That defense didn’t work very well in Germany…..
“ICE says it’s just doing what it’s told.” Simple enough. If you’re job is requiring you to do something that you feel like you have to make a statement like that, then maybe that’s you’re sign that you should look for a new job. Otherwise, you’re lying.
Another story of a US Citizen geting a "Get out of the country" letter. This time a Doctor. (Well the lawyer is also a Doctor come to think of it. Doctor of Laws) Yes they are deproting people smarter than Trump. (Oh man that's everybody NOT MAGA.)
This has got to be stopped! What’s it going to take??
The only way to combat this situation and shut down people doing this job is to make them feel as unsafe as they make everyone else feel. If you can't get comfortable with that, we will fail as a democracy.
I'm afraid you are right just can't swallow the BS they are spewing and is this the country the people who voted for Orange 47 and the Republican leaders want.
Probably full of Jan6ers.
Peacekeepers like the ones in Hunger Games..
Yes when we get 3.5% of We the People to boycott, take to the streets, flood the postal system, lay in the intersections...see South Africa
They are not HIM!!
It is the Gestapo and it just sickens that fascism has taken over this country. And truly, who are they going after next because it’s not ending with just immigrants.
Thats what the Waffen SS did in Germany I won't be surprised when they start executing people on the side of the road
I hope to see these ICE “soldiers” on trial someday for their crimes. As well as the presidents of these 2 countries of course.
You need laws for that. Besides written on paper, they are gone now.
"Befehl ist Befehl" didn't work for the Nazis at Nuremberg. What makes ICE think it will for them? The ICC should issue arrest warrants for ICE leadership.
Well, I am one Dem that is locked, loaded & ready to go down with a fight.
"Juan Carlos Lopez Gomez. American citizen, detained by ICE in Leon County Florida. His mother brought his birth certificate and SS card. Judge told her, “Sorry, he has an ICE hold, despite not having probably cause for his arrest” www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...
Just frightening.
Never thought I would ever see the equivalent of the Gestapo in America. This is so terrible and absolutely fucking disgusting.
Just following orders, huh? I did Nazi that argument coming.
The Military, ICE officers, Border Patrol officers, & police officers, are not obligated to obey the President's orders if they are unconstitutional. Any appeasement of tyranny is treason.
I fear that this man has been murdered. I really and truly hope I am wrong and he is returned to his family. But Trump is paying 6 million to use the prison. El Salvador could just collect and terminate him. After all the dead cost nothing and tell no tales. This makes me feel so sick.
I am now happy to see he is alive. Now get him home.
Bringing him back would mean a living witness to the horror. They can’t have that.
Nowhere good.
Start Doxxing NAZIS. #BreakTheICE
“I was just following orders.” Sound familiar?
I saw someone say that they were disgusted by this saying it's not the same. I don't think that they understand that people in opposition of this are trying to make sure that that third picture doesn't end in the same place that the first two did.
Hard to teach someone a lesson that they're being paid to ignore.
Thought we established 80 years ago that “I was only following orders” was not a reasonable excuse.
We know where it ends. We’ve seen it before. And ICE should remember that “I was just following orders,” wasn’t a good excuse during the Nuremberg trials and it isn’t now. Bastards.
These ice "agents" love to get dressed up and geared up like they are going to be on the front lines in Ukraine fighting for democracy. Which is where they should be, but they would rather invade churches and elementary schools and bravely arrest children and old women while destroying democracy.
Bullets for all of them.
We know where it will end. We know they want it to end there. It’s time we all stop pretending they’re any different than the Nazi Regime of 1930’s Germany.
