He conveniently left out that there is no negotiating with republicans in good faith now. That ship has sailed.
He conveniently left out that there is no negotiating with republicans in good faith now. That ship has sailed.
I don't remember much negotiating from the Japanese in World War II. He is a special kind of moron.
Hitler hoped to force a negotiation with the battle of the bulge, but we stopped him.
How on earth does he say such things with a straight face! Idiot.
So, if Ukraine “negotiated” the end of the war with Putin the same way we “negotiated” with Japan, he’d be cool?
Trump says he gets to do whatever he wants because he is President. As Vice President, Vance figures he should get to rewrite history to suit himself. Remember when Vance declared that "professors are the enemy"? He villainizes them them because they threaten his ability to just make up stuff.
I can see negotiation at the end
Vance preaches B.S. to mesmerized MAGA morons.
Idiot!!
Good grief he seems far too uneducated 🤭
Yale should be ashamed he got his JD from them. Disbarment & resend diploma.
While many members of the maladministration actually are this deeply ignorant of facts, many others are actually intelligent and educated individuals who merely feign ignorance for selfish short-term gains and to advance their warped ideologies. I loathe the latter even more than the former.
Yale law school's finest (second dumbest after W)
MAGA CUM MORON from Tramp U (Go Cons)
If by negotiation he means some nazi scientists went to USA and some nazi leaders got to Brazil and Argentina without being held to account, then I guess he is a little bit correct. People like trump, Vance and Farage piss on the graves of conscripts who gave their lives for our freedoms.
haha-ask hitler or mussolini how that negotiation went?? Seriously, this guy went to Harvard??
When the Orange shit head dies this is what we’ll get
Hitler committed suicide rather than face his shame. You don’t haves good track record in that department. I can’t imagine not being able to go anywhere in the world without people showing up to remind you what a couch fucker you are.
Yep, Hitler negotiated with a bullet to his brain, and Mussolini - well, Google it.
It also ended in “get the fuck out of our allies’ countries and get back to your own”. Which is the only outcome Ukraine will and should accept.
Correct, George. Annihilation and surrender are the main ingredients. Negotiation is just the parsley to make the plate look pretty.
Genghis Khan would like a word with JD.
Nothing is more offensive than someone like him spewing off complete and utter bullshit so confidently.
I am so with you on that, Vance is dumber than dirt and he has no idea what he talking about
Utter nonsense.
Ok ok, we will settle for the “kind of negotiation” that ended WW2. Namely the kind where the leader of the invading country doesn’t get to sign the document because he is in a ditch with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head and on fire….and most of his staff are hung.
His views on history are beyond warped. I don’t think the Hiroshima bomb was a negotiation. I don’t think D-Day was one either. Nor was Stalingrad (we tend to forget the Soviets were on our side against a common enemy)
Um, Vietnam?
Did he actually attend school?
This is how it ended in 1945 Italy for Vance's fellow good Catholic boy Benito
And WWI ended a dictated peace rather than a fair negotiated settlement that wrecked the German economy and gave rise to Hitlerism. Sound familiar?
Nope
i'm starting to think jd wasn't born in the traditional sense and is in fact a horrible scientific experiment that escaped a lab
To him unconditional surrender is a negotiation tactic.
The difference now is the fascists have control of a nuclear arsenal
This fascist enterprise will also end with annihilation.
👈 still waiting for journalists to fact check extemporaneously.
The sofa guy always loves to parade his stupidity.
What in the actual fuck? We had to fight our way across Europe in order to defeat fascism. JD Vance clearly is full MAGA and has melted what little brain matter he had left.
Wait, did he really say that? Hmm. Unconditional surrender is not a negotiation.
I’m mean if the H-bomb is what you call “negotiation“…
Hard to see how the Japanese negotiated with a couple of atom bombs. Both the Japanese and the Germans had to sign unconditional surrenders. Thats not negotiating.
He should see a shrink….just not one with a couch.
Stupid or delusional? Could be both.
JD Vance is educated but in what exactly? Did he not have history lessons or did he sleep through them!
This smug little couch fucker believes he is far superior to his followers, and like 🍊, he can throw out those little red meaty treats because they won't check him. DOUCHE!
A hundred million people died, Bowman.
My dad's family was from Italy, he told me how when he was a kid one of his uncles used to show off a photo he took at Mussolini's execution. What negotiation are we referring to again?
Yeah - and how long did they keep him twisting in the wind before they out him in the gutter?
Napoleon: "After careful negotiation, I have decided to no longer conquer Europe, and will exile myself to a desolate rock in the middle of the Atlantic to slowly die of stomach cancer."
JD is a testament to how uneducated the MAGA base really is. He, and the king Oompa Loompa in office, can say just about anything and the base will accept it as gospel
Yes who could forget when FDR, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Hirohito, and Churchill all sat down together and decided that Hitler and Mussolini would die and Japan would get bombed twice? They teach it in EVERY Florida school!
He knows better. It's just for the pathetic base.
Here’s the “negotiation” that ended WWII, you dumb ass motherfucker.
My grandfather Lenz came home from the war with "shell shock" and alcoholism - despite being a successful newspaper ad man - because he and his tank crew killed everything in their path from Utah Beach to Germany. Take a look at their picture. Doesn't look like negotiating with evil worked.
If fascism were defeated, the US wouldn't exist as it doesn't today
Darker read: maybe the endgame for jd is Ukraine's unconditional surrender, but he can't just come out and say it, so he uses this as a veiled metaphor.
Ohh facts facts facts.
Hitler unalived himself at the end of WWII, which Putin can do any time he wants. Not that he should or that I would advocate anyone taking that path.
IMBECILE!!
He is an Idiot
Let's send him back! I'll donate to the time machine fund. Of all the #ButtSnorkelers, he is the most skilled. He can snorkel longer than anyone else, which is why his position as #2 is so appropriate. This is a gross reference, but JD is particularly gross. #Epstein
Had he never heard of Hiroshima or Nagasaki? Yale grad??
Ukraine could quite possibly have regained their nukes. They have the plutonium, skills and resources, and plenty of time. Perhaps we will find out later, at this moment I am confident in Ukraine's kinetic negotiations finding a solution.
If you want to know how Americans "negotiated" the capitulation of Japan during WW2, search Youtube for Barefoot Gen Atomic Bomb Scene 4k.
I bet he also believes their own regime might end somewhere in a far distant future with some kind of negotiation.
He is honestly the most unbearable ‘human being’ around right now. I put that in quotes because I’m only about 98% certain that he isn’t just a human costume that’s been inhabited by a few different fascist space lizards by now.
We can skip to the part with Trumpty in a bunker.
So did Japan negotiate being bombed with the two biggest bombs in world history or did the US just decide to do it?
an atomic bomb is a wonderful negotiation. moron.
A ditch and a few cans of gas would go down a treat.
You are not going to get my couch JD
They know they can say anything they fancy, because the average supporter, (50% of the population, it seems), is even less educated than they are, and can't argue, even if they wanted to.
Maybe he consider Yalta a "negotiation"...
Ask him about the terms the Confederacy negotiated in 1865
Wrong. Know your history before you open your mouth
What part of unconditional surrender needs to be negotiated?
Hitler negotiated with a bullet after taking cyanide...
Vietnam would like a word.
He is SO DAMN STUPID. I just can’t with him.
Yes, famously Hitler negotiated by blowing his brains out. Japan negotiated by getting nuked, twice. I guess they don’t teach history in the polisci program at Ohio State. That’s right, his undergrad from OSU is in polisci, and he spews this shit. The Buckeyes might want their diploma back.
I mean, if you were very stupid, you could call an unconditional surrender "some kind of negotiation." Since that's what Vance really wants for Ukraine, that would be unusually honest for him.
Unconditional surrender to be exact...take it or you all die!😉
Yes, JD, please tell us what Hitler got for agreeing to put a bullet in his brain? Was Mussolini driving a hard bargain while he was swinging upside down?
Emperor Hirohito would also like to have a word with JD. What a moron. But then, again, the majority of those who would believe him are his MAGA supporters.
Uneducated idiot, no matter who gave him degees.
Yeah, wasn't there a suicide and an nuclear bomb involved in that one?
Sweet Jesus save us all! These people are morons.
I don't think that fascist has thought through enough what it would look like to hold Nuremberg 2.0 hearings.
He knows better. He just also knows that Trump’s cult will believe him.
Another stable genius….. I believe this was how WW2 ended for the aggressors.
WTAF??
I want to hear Vance talk bull💩as much as the idiot and that’s not at all. I’m so tired of all the lies.
Looks like JD Pance failed history & got an "F" (FUK U). He's frustrated & needs to reduce his stress! Cum pick up the couch, it's free! 👇😡
The future of this administration look just like Hitler's
Yeah negotiation, 'unconditional surrender'
What an ignorant fool! No doubt Vance is laying the Trump administration's plan for a "negotiated" settlement whereby the aggressor is rewarded a sovereign nation's territory. Will it also include not returning the 1.6M kidnapped Ukrainian children sent to Russia for indoctrination & adoption?
Part of his point is to get us to imagine that the Nazis and Imperial Japanese weren't THAT bad. They could listen to reason and negotiate like anyone else. GAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!
Now we know for sure this asshat never wrote a book because apparently he can barely read one.
I guess he thinks we were negotiating in Hiroshima....
As always a Fk'ing loser!
Maybe JD needs to study HISTORY and not try to make shit up.
Explain the Japan negotiation. I think 2 atomic bombs were dropped and Japan Surrendered Unconditionally
Couch-fuckers say the silliest things.
If he calls Nagasaki and Hiroshima negotiation… but maybe if thinks that a hoax ? 😅😅😅 From a possible president to come it’s very frightening ! (Among all the other things he does and says !)
Negotiation only works when both parties are acting in good faith
The American education system is a failure.
He's been hanging around Trump too long. He's becoming as stupid as Trump is on almost a daily basis now.
Is he saying when the US pulled out of it's last war, they negotiated to hand control back to the Taliban?
Agreed. 🗽🇪🇺🇺🇦🌻
This is why you don't elect stupid nazis.
Or allow them to rig an election with putin.
Dumbass.
First time I read two atomic bombs are negotiation.
JDV lies so eloquently that you can almost forget he is a neo-monarchist. Look it up, folks. He believes the U.S. should go back to a king. 👑
After a couple nuclear bombs and unconditional surrender, but yeah sure.
He should stick to furniture.. js
And bad eyeliner…
Maybe he needs to double check that
He certainly doubled up on the fries.
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brilliant. We have a trove of dummies in the trump administration including the serial liar in chief,Trump
I think it’s ‘Just Dance’ Vance’s way of asking to not be strung up from a lamp post when it finally goes to shit and he’s cornered. “Parley, Parley.”
Someone needs to negotiate him out of office.
oh, he's hoping he'll get to negotiate his defeat....
And it was unconditional surrender. The same with the Civil War.
Still no word on how the only real solution is for russia to remove its invading troops.
Peter Thiel must’ve bought JD Vance‘s degree. Lord knows he didn’t earn it…
I seem to recall that the reasoning behind nuking japan was that the usa decided they could not get the japanese to the negotiation table. But lets let the couchfucker cook
Poor JD, dumb as a rock and doesn't have a clue.
Methinks JD has only ever used history books to adjust the height and angle of approach on his furniture.
the sound I made when I read that.
For you my dear, Any time.
Hitler's head negotiated with a bullet, and lost.
Hitler committed suicide. That was the end of the negotiations.
All we need to do is persuade Chucky Van Couchboy to GoogleTranslate 'Carthago delenda est'. It's not rocket science. Fortunately.
Just let me know when he and Eva Braun head to the bunker with the cyanide.
WW2 ended with unconditional surrender of the Fascists. The couch molester should get a refund on his history classes
So the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were “negotiations”?
Aggressive ones.
The bombs didn't cause Japan's surrender... it was the Soviet invasion of manchuria that did it instead. Japan was willing to see multiple sunrises as they had been bombed for months prior to that already.
I think the quote from Harry Truman was "If they do not now surrender, they will see a rain of ruin from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this earth before"
Yeah but he's absolutely correct! The bullet that negotiated it's way into Hitler's brain was probably one of the greatest negotiations in history.
Sure, after America and its Allies took over Berlin by brute force.
Not sure the Japanese would call actual nuclear bombs dropped on them "a negotiation"
Do these people even read?
He's either incredibly stupid or a horrible liar, or both.
I remember it well. Hitler made a deal. Retired to Argentina, and died in the late 90s. Good times
Still waiting for anyone to give me an example of any major conflict that *did* end with negotation.
Yes, He Is Exactly What He looks Like...A Fat Faced Serial Liar....
The were also executions of convicted Nazi war criminals: "In addition to the IMT, subsequent trials and other war crimes proceedings in the British, French, and American zones led to the hanging of nearly 500 Nazi war criminals at sites like Hameln, Rastatt, and Landsberg."
Trump is a liar, but Vance is just totally stupid
What is he talking about? Hitler killed himself, they shot Mussolini and America dropped the atomic bomb on Japan twice. Before they surrendered. Who negotiated?
It's amazing how many Americans don't know the Soviets caused Japan to surrender and not the bombs.
While you are right, and I know this, most people won't even bother to listen to this. Just saying!
Very true
Methinks, someone needs to go back and reread his history books… like, from the beginning of time.
If only it had stuck.
Did the interviewER follow-up w/a, which effing war are you talking about?
This is how we must end the war with MAGA, through negotiation. /s
He's technically right. There was "some kind of negotiation". It was just pretty one-sided. And I'd not mind at all if the Ukraine war had similar consequences for the fascist aggressors.
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"Surrender or revisit the Stone Age" is a sort of negotiation, I suppose.
Negotiation? Germany and Japan surrendered unconditionally.
You can’t expect truth from JD. He’s trying to cover for his idiot boss. He doesn’t know the difference between negotiation and terms of surrender.
What a fool. Seriously what is wrong with those people. Why are they so ignorant? Well I guess he thinks they can get away with being a fascist state and he’ll find out the hard way
He knows nothing.
He's been hanging out with Traitor 47 for too long. His brain is starting to atrophy.
Yes JD. I'm sure that Eva Braun and Hitler had a relationship counselor present to negotiate who should commit suicide first. The guy is clueless. He thinks the general population audience is as stupid as the Red Hat Cult.
Clearly this moron didn’t pay attention in Freshman World History class!! JFC!
Like a little lying cabbage patch doll. If that dork was really a marine, he knows how WWII ended.
He was a publicist. Sorry. Not a real veteran.
That’s still a veteran, he served and got an honorable discharge. I don’t play that “veteran gatekeeping” nonsense.
I will. A publicist is a writer. I also don't think much of JAG lawyers. The ones I knew were at best mediocre law students.
JAG and writers are still just as punished for existing on base as anyone else. To quote a FSC small arms repairman, "I didn't get PTSD in Afghanistan, I got PTSD from Fort Polk."
Please. Going into training knowing you may face combat vs knowing you will be facing a computer screen or a military tribunal. Come on. Use your common sense.
Preparation for going into a combat zone is easy. You know you're going into a dangerous place, and that you have the means to defend yourself from it. It's the culture of horrible posts that gives troops the most trauma statistically. Maybe actually listen to people who served or study them.
Like my cousins? I did. And publicists and JaG personnel don't spend much time in dangerous places. When they do they are protected by those who are stationed there.
The "Danger" of deployment is barely any higher statistically than just living at Polk or Hood, hun. Ask the thousands of dead or vanished soldiers who were stationed there, or the hundreds of unidentified corpses we keep finding at the ranges.
Man you really need to do some research. What has happened at Hood is bizarre. Yet we had 43 die or suffer injuries in one day in Jordan. Overseas combat is very hard. To claim it's just as hard on a base in the US leaves me to believe your a snowflake.
we have an "administration" consisting of all the most despised asshole 5th graders you knew all saying whatever they want, smirking, leering, laying waste to American democracy
He doesn't know history, like trump he makes it up
Furniture Fhkkr Vance skipped part that the Germany Economy was in Trasher🗑 ! At end of WWll, Nobody trusted Germany,and zero money was moving toward Germany. The Germans who were left, AFTER the nazis Ran (bc nazis ALWAYS Run!) those Germans left behind were those who rebuilt Germany, piece by pc.
Vance is just proving he wasn't educated with reality. He got a religious white washed version of history like so many Southern Americans.
MAGA will re-write history to make JD right.
Fortsetzung wann? Spin-Off, mir egal
They use a different dictionary than us. To them, negotiating can come after you destroy the other side. And negotiating is surrendering. So, to them, it’s: I beat you and now this is what I want from you and you have to give it to me.
Exactly. Negotiation is for survivors.
JUST DUMB Vance
Yeah Enola Gay dropped negotiations on Japan and negotiated them to smithereens
Yes, everyone remembers the US’ chief negotiators in WWII, Fat Man and Little Boy.
Hmm. Remind me what happened in Vietnam?
Needs to read some history. Look what the negotiations at end of World War I (Treaty of Versailles) caused - World War II.
Just rewriting history...... again.
Hitler negotiated a bullet to the brain
This idiot knows nothing about history!
JD is not nearly a stupid ass Trump He’ll just say whatever he thinks MAGA wants to hear @senategop.govpeeps.us @housegop.bsky.social
Stupidity knows no bounds
Vance is a typical maga, has no idea of history or facts.
Yep, because nazis on stop being nazis when they die
And THIS is why education is so very important... If not, you end up sounding like this guy 🙄
Why did the US fight any war at all and did not just skip to the negotiation if that is what it is really about?
Vance seems to be a prime example of what happens when people try to erase history and re-write it with their "preferred vision" of events. Hard to believe that he went to Yale Law School; what an embarrassment he must be to them.
He's trying to rewrite history. That's what they do. Put a little soft touch on Hitler and ww2. Fucking nazi fascists. That's what they are. They don't even really hide it now. I guess cuz they don't have to anymore.
Someone needs to crack open a history book.
Fucking Yale needs to demand its degrees back and refund Vance’s tuition because it’s obvious that no education of any kind took place during his time at Yale.
God man read a book ....first hit him with a bag of books then make him read them . Dumbing America one republican at a time
Vance is an ignorant bastard.
Hiroshima & Nagasaki would like to have a word!
Ended under in what is a car parking lot now in Berlin.
I also think there was a bomb, a bunker and then years of hunting of Nazis and dragging them before the ICC for their crimes against humanity. I'm quite sure a lot of Nazi scum were shot in their beds many years after they had fled and tried to deny who they were. But yeah, negotiation 🤦