Patently absurd that the Democrats spent most of last week going after Zohran Mamdani instead of focusing on rallying against the bill
Patently absurd that the Democrats spent most of last week going after Zohran Mamdani instead of focusing on rallying against the bill
Democrats. Tearing down the scary Muslim socialist while cashing their AIPAC checks from the bipartisan genocide project in Palestine. The two actions are intimately linked.
Agreed! Republicans can seem up over the most nefarious actions, but Democrats can't team up for the common good. It's a problem that better be resolved immediately.
If only their lust for power was matched by an equal or greater passion for leadership
wtf are you even talking about
Happily complicit in the facism all so they can get more wallet lining. Pathetic how easily they abandon their oath, their voters, their morals
With all due respect, we did both at the same time. I know that’s hard for men to comprehend that you can do more than one thing at once…
Theyre doing what their pimps tell em
I know right? The party in the minority who provided exactly 0 votes to this monstrosity…is at fault. WTF
Misread your post. Sorry. I read Republicans instead of /Dems. Ive only heard James Carville. so far.
They're afraid of him. They should be. Oligarchs & autocrats are in power but it's tenuous thing, We'll see wht US is made of. Again. These Dominionists are intense, working hard to prove their superiority. Thing is US is still of the people, by the people and for the people. To hell with Idiocracy
And I just know certain people are gonna talk about the “heroics” of jefferies while totally discounting that he hasn’t done anything till stuff is basically passed twice now
We're in this situation because in the first place, the leftists attacked Kamala Harris in the last election, calling the Democratic Party elite, establishment, and they helped get fascist Trump elected as they did in 2016.
fiscally irresponsible and profit-cut economic policies of the leftists increase deficits and debts in already dangerous American cities, lead to bankruptcy, and, in the long run, endanger welfare, rights and democracy for citizens.
I like Jeffries but I’m sooo disappointed in him. I don’t think he’s the man for the moment.
This is the second time he's done some big stupid speech and the result was "yeah anyway we're passing the 'throw all orphans into a sausage grinder's bill"
What was the other speech?
Looking over it I think it might have been cory booker the first time, up to you whether it's better or worse that two different guys have done this and gotten the same result
Yeah, the other huge, long (much longer) speech was Cory Booker.
The other speech was Cory, and I feel similarly about it. Aside from that there’s been other bills passed this year where none of the establishment (including Jeffries) says anything and right before the vote or after it’s passed it’s “this is all the republicans” and dodge any responsibility.
He ignored countless procedural ways to delay the bill. It was a whole meaningless show.
Really?
Kinda like maintaining the status quo is more important to them than serving the people.
Why would they ever do anything actually effective?
So absurd its almost as if thats not what happened. Gillibrand had a moment and Jeffries said some weasel words. They've been rally against this bill for at least a *month* now bro Fukin pay attention.
“Gillibrand had a moment” is a funny way to say someone went into a manufactured, racist, hissy-fitted tirade.
Yeah that was the point it was sarcastic understatement
There’s thousands of them and millions of dollars and they couldn’t be bothered to do both
Serious question though, did they, or is this an impression from social media + cable programs? Because my mom doesn't even know who he is.
One is more important to them than the other
They love racism
Democrats hate progressives more than they hate fascists, this is demonstrable fact.
We totally need a progressive party.
Just Some disgruntled 1%ers getting the NY Posts ear. The Mamdani campaign is doing good!
Distract, gaslight, blame shift, messaging, disengagement and reengagement. What matters is shifting the agendas and attention away from what you're actually doing. Evil is successful, because it knows how to weild mass hypnosis.
Literally any time spent going after Zohran is too much
Entirely on-brand though
They'll soon realize they're servants of us, not the other way around.
I’ve been assured by the finest minds in Bluesky that that didn’t actually happen, and that voting against something and losing is actually the best they can do.
When you realize most of them are owned by the billionaires, it makes perfect sense.
I guarantee you that this impression is a function of your media environment, likely mostly self-curated
Democrats are just controlled opposition at this point.
The Washington Generals win games against the Globetrotters! I mean, it's been 50 years, but they have!
Which Democrats? Freaks like Fetterman or actual core party leaders?
it was deliberate
We will crush them all for this.
Yet so predictable.
because they are.... say it with me everyone... complicit.
Corporate democrats are scared to death, to face the future. Shit. They know AOC is their best candidate, and I am sure they are scared to death of her too.
Overreach vs underreach
Par for the course
I let the actions speak for themselves and adjust views accordingly.
That is not what the majority of Democrats were doing, but there was SO MUCH wasted air time, and column space, and racist gibberish clogging up the news cycle — and it was a bad news cycle to be doing that.
Not the majority, sure. Just the ones with any power and who are in charge
Yeah this, i really think the divide between the Democrats' base and the ones pulling the strings is larger now than it's ever been in my lifetime The rank & file have been very supportive of Mamdani overall, just not the media figures or their Bluesky-influencer surrogates
The most ghoulish conservatives at the NYT aren't elected Dems, though. Like, has anyone in Dem leadership actually been trashing Mamdani since his win? As far as I can tell, it's mostly been 3rd way freaks that the news is disguising as "anonymous Dem consultants"
Schumer & Jeffries both joined the meltdown over the thing he never actually said, just as the most obvious instance
Jeffries responded to a leading question by a reporter with some weasel words because he's fundamentally a coward, but he's not the mastermind there. He was pulled into the meltdown by the media, a meltdown specifically engineered by the media. And I genuinely don't even know what Schumer did.
Who? Schumer is in power and in charge, and he congratulated Mamdani the instant his landslide victory became apparent. I haven't heard a peep out of him since. So, who?
Schumer is a Zionist and I don’t believe you are this stupid. God help you if so
Ok, so he hasn't actually done anything to Mamdani specifically, then?
Centrists have always been more interested in fighting the left than the fascists. They'll only realize how wrong they've been when it's too late.
We're in this situation because in the first place, the leftists attacked Kamala Harris in the last election, calling the Democratic Party elite, establishment, and they helped get fascist Trump elected as they did in 2016.
fiscally irresponsible and profit-cut economic policies of the leftists increase deficits and debts in already dangerous American cities, lead to bankruptcy, and, in the long run, endanger welfare, rights and democracy for citizens.
The so called "centrists" and "moderates" who spent so much time fighting leftists, progressives, socialists, won't ever admit what they did is wrong because they are so fucking okay with fascism. Even when they are led into the camps they will be "this is the lefts fault, god, just as bad"
They’ll never realize it unless there are consequences. So far as i can see, there are none of those over the last 4 decades in American politics.
We are in a new era where I think for better and for worse we can’t rely on what happened before.
They basically got their way in the last three elections, which was so shitty and unpalatable that it gave us the orange idiot TWICE. They'll never learn and will just keep blaming progressives.
I'm actually going to give you some hope. I'll cop to thinking centrist (another context please). But I am stoked about this guy Mamdami. I honestly feel that serious Democrats will realize what a godsend he is. I'll admit origin in NYC suburbs, but I think they'll be more like me. Color me all in.
I sure hope you're right.
I can only be a data point of one. Message should be that he is what NYC chose, and that nobody's debating his applicability on a national ticket. NYC should get to decide what NYC does. Then only results will matter. Someone running Georgia doen't have to run away from him (or towards him). Period
gotta protect the brand!
Stop it.
It's odd that so many Americans spend their time focusing on Democrats. They are in the minority. No idea what the you expected them to do when they are in the minority. They voted en bloc against the bill. Rallying what exactly?
Isn’t it? This is why Republicans keep getting a free pass being foot soldiers for Trump.
I'm so tired of the good being sacrificed by the perfect by these ridiculous purists
Most of whom sat home last November and now spend all their time blaming others to assuage their guilt.
Ascribing blame and tutting behind their screens while people are being disappeared on their streets.
With the billions that will be funneled into ICE from this bill this is going to grow substantially worse. It is, for all intents and purposes, being molded into a secret police operation for Trump. And REPUBLICANS are the ONES responsible, even those crying crocodile tears like Murkowski.
The passivity of Americans is their undoing. Yanks should have been out in the streets all day every day the moment the first person was disappeared. Instead they're still behind their screens tutting
Could've rallied to not let multiple octogenarian representatives die in office in the months after the election. That would've made the vote much closer.
To everyone who is saying “the democrats are in the minority, they couldn’t do anything,” what about all of the times when they were in the majority and behaved the same way? Pull your heads out of your asses, I know it’s cheap but it isn’t worth the warmth.
When you understand which team the democrats play for it stops being so absurd. Democrats and republicans play for the same team that you aren’t on. What is absurd is how many people continue to buy the lie.
I'm confused. I thought none of the Democrats voted for the bill.
Everybody who took part in that theatre should be socking away bribes at a Menendez-worthy pace because not a single one of them will survive next spring.
Why would they want to stop this bill? They love it. As soon as it passed they fired off the "better send us more money" texts.
We're in this situation because in the first place, the leftists attacked Kamala Harris in the last election, calling the Democratic Party elite, establishment, and they helped get fascist Trump elected as they did in 2016.
fiscally irresponsible and profit-cut economic policies of the leftists increase deficits and debts in already dangerous American cities, lead to bankruptcy, and, in the long run, endanger welfare, rights and democracy for citizens.
"Send me more money so I can continue to be ineffective"
Don’t be an idiot. They do not in fact love it. Stop
the strongest emotion Dems feel towards the bill is slight annoyance
Stop. Just stop.
This is how republicans win. They ram through the most fascist shit in history on pure partisan lines with zero Dems and the literal first reaction from dumb cunts like you is to blame democrats? Dems are the minority bc people like you said they’re the same and stayed home. Eat shit
The groundwork for this, ICE in particular, is bipartisan. Obama deported more people than Trump. Enacted the indefinite detention of citizens without trial. Biden expanded ICE and cop cities. They're on the same team, and it's not ours.
I mean, one of them was a threat to profits. The other is just a threat to millions of lives.
All the ones in Congress did, in fact, vote against it. Who else did you want to have been rallied?
Work on the Rs & their constituents. Make NOISE that makes SENSE.
But sadly on brand.
Yes. Totally agree.
they love the bill and want to marry it
Um, 0 of them voted for it. I'm all for dunking on Libs, but no need to make stuff. Their actual failures are more than enough to generate outrage.
Completely agree. And we don’t murder our constituents. OMG that’s a low bar!!
The frustrating thing is that most of the party did get behind Zohran and come out against the bill, but the centrist NY machine guys were the ones invited on all the morning shows
We're in this situation because in the first place, the leftists attacked Kamala Harris in the last election, calling the Democratic Party elite, establishment, and they helped get fascist Trump elected as they did in 2016.
fiscally irresponsible and profit-cut economic policies of the leftists increase deficits and debts in already dangerous American cities, lead to bankruptcy, and, in the long run, endanger welfare, rights and democracy for citizens.
And the centrist NY dem machine is also a huge chunk of the national leadership
Starting to think national media outlets all being owned by a handful of companies based in the same city and buddies with the same figures wasn't great for the health of the information ecosystem
This is a great point. When people blame “Democrats” they’re focusing on the wrong thing.
ding ding ding!!! i believe more than ever now that the big KHive/Resistance posters don't actually represent the average Dem voter, but they sure do represent the media players in the party
Every big #resistance account is solely doing it to get a media deal. They dream of being the next krassenstein or Mueller she wrote. Like, picture the end of the south park Yelp episode but politics social media posting.
Been saying this for a minute now, spot on Seeing so many of them get invited to the White House for dinner with Biden was what really drove that home for me
astroturfff
YES, Establishment Dem's are now WORTHLESS! GET RID of them, ASAP! ☠️ 💙 💕
Dems being absolute morons, more at 11.
yep.
Hey AMERICA, wake the fuck up! Lift your heads out of the fucking sand and take a look at the real world. Stop taking chunks out of each other find a fucking leader you can all get behind for the future and start building yourself a new vision. The world is moving on from your bullshit now sort it!
neoliberalism always sides with fascism over socialism
They like everything that's happening otherwise they'd act differently
Absolutely the biggest giveaway that they either do not give a fuck or are actively collaborating and we STILL have a bunch of knuckledraggers insisting that we pretend electoralism will solve this shit
See, if I were a politician, I probably would have sent out a bunch of mailers explaining exactly how bad the bill was going to be to a bunch of Republican politician's districts and have each pamphlet include their local rep's name, number, and address.
Democrips
Except they didn’t.
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It’s absurd but normal. Given a choice between threat to human rights and a threat to property rights Liberals will always fight the threat to property rights. See how the revolutions of 1848 ended.
if it talks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
I’m never going back. We’ve already lost almost everything. They need to do some serious reflection. I’m embarrassed I even considered myself part of the Democratic Party.
They're the loyal opposition.
Perpetual Circular Firing Squad
not the democrats my man, that is the media choosing to cover that because that is what benefits the media's owners.
But some of the most influential Democrats were all over said media demanding Mamdani apologize for something he never said, that's more the point here It's not most Dems behaving like this, but it sure is the ones who get on TV
.....and who is choosing what is on tv?
Yes, but also we could have real leadership who doesn't do that shit, y'know? Ideally in this environment the media figureheads wouldn't also be the people setting the course for the party
It’s collaboration, unequivocally.
It’s because they don’t care.
That's because Democrats are more worried about a Muslim socialist than these tax cuts that will make them richer (secretly they like it)
Them going after Mamdani was absurd racist shit but let’s not pretend that had any impact on this bill passing. It’s naive to think that
Massive shakeup needed to meet this moment.
“He’s gonna make us look bad” how does he make you look bad, when you’re also responsible for Cuomo and Adams? Furthermore, what’s going to fix the dems reputation? Standing up for people, even those who hate you? Or trying to push out your most popular candidate since Obama? Hard choice apparently.
Because they don’t care about you. They care about keeping their jobs. Mamdani is a bigger threat to that than people suffering.
I don’t know about that but we totally need a progressive party. It’s time for us to go all the way with fairness for ALL people.
Yeah, I haven't seen one Democrats anything negative about it. Still waiting.
It’s like most of them are on the ”receiving” side… no that can’t be right can it?
only if you believe that they wanted to stop the bill
You can be mad about Mamdani but this is a strange take, they did rally against the bill.
It’s called seeing only what you want to see and it’s every bit as dangerous as those on the far right believing every lie they hear out of Trump’s mouth. Extremism is dangerous no matter if it’s on the left or right.
The Democrats didn’t, however. You were just on sm all week! 😂🤣😂
Even if you don’t believe the most damning conclusion (that Dems find Zohran’s politics more objectionable than the far-right GOP’s), hard to escape at least the conclusion that they view Zohran’s success as a greater threat to them personally than Trump achieving his goals, which is pretty awful
Honestly, I think a lot of the blame for that falls on the media.
This is the one here. The Dems in Washington were in complete lockstep against the budget and nobody even thought about breaking rank. The media meanwhile did what it does best and made a municipal election dominate the national cycle with zero coverage of what the budget would do if passed
Too many rich Democrats.
That's not what happened, though.
I don't know how much of the Democratic anti-Mamdani pushback was inflated by the press coverage. Political news and politicians seems to be a in feedback/Ouroboros loop of ever increasing bullshit.
well the thing is they could actually do something about the bill, and they fucking hate having to do shit, so that wasn't an option. They can't do shit about Mamdani besides complain, which is their specific wheelhouse.
Ohh I’m sure you are the one that has the one weird trick that they just refused to use. It’s not like they worked none stop to get as much as they could removed from the bill, and went deep into the morning fighting against it. And every single one voted against it.
Sorry, Schumer isn't going to fuck you.
Wow, what a thoughtful and on topic response. I like Mamdani a lot more more than I like Schumer; but don’t feel the need to write fan fiction about either.
Ok so don't write fan fiction?
Guarantee what Fetterman said out loud was just the quiet part for many others in the party
You mean the man who voted no? Along with (checks notes) literally every other democrat in Congress?
Seems this conversation got out of hand while i was away, but what i meant there was his complaining about having to work on a Monday and wanting to go to the beach That's the part i was saying he's likely not alone in
You don't actually have to congratulate the bare minimum accompanied by less than the bare minimum in general.
lol What else can the do? They literally all voted no. Should they do jumping jacks too or what
some push for systemic change that would help Americans when they're in power would be nice. Or we could perpetuate the same systems that continue to get America into this position because it's easier to make select people the villain rather than notice that the issue IS the system
What could they do with the Minority? Not much. But that doesn't change the fact they don't do anything when they ARE in control
If only there existed time prior to the vote. Alas, that vote is all the time that ever was.