My opinion is what she's saying is monstrous but anyone trying to do a gotcha with 'But what if it was about Gaza????' needs their ass beat
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What if some ostensibly reasonable people said horrifying things about the suffering in Gaza? Yeah what fucking if. A real fucking thought exercise
aug 29, 2025, 6:45 pm • 1 1 • view
the whataboutism is kinda dumb but it's very ironic for someone who's been an embodiment of embracing nihilism for years suddenly realize just how much it has been what has driven this current moment
aug 29, 2025, 6:44 pm • 7 1 • view
I could write an essay about it, but yeah lol it's been a harsh lesson
aug 29, 2025, 6:57 pm • 2 0 • view
That isn't whataboutism though, it's recontextualising a person's stated opinions to force them to confront their moral inconsistences
aug 29, 2025, 11:53 pm • 1 0 • view
If you're saying anything about Ukraine that would make you flinch if you heard someone saying it about Gaza, there's probably some kind of double standard there you need to consider.
aug 29, 2025, 11:55 pm • 3 1 • view
i mean yeah but there are a lot of people who have said some uh, horrendous shit about palestinians in the past two years lol. its why i consider it a bit of whataboutism bc the counterfactual was quite a bit more common
aug 29, 2025, 11:59 pm • 2 1 • view
Yeah the corollary is that saying horrendous shit about Gaza is rare enough that you can use it as an example and that is absolutely not true lol
aug 30, 2025, 12:01 am • 0 0 • view
It absoutely is rare amongst these people and the spaces they inhabit, though.
aug 30, 2025, 12:02 am • 1 0 • view
Not really, no
aug 30, 2025, 12:08 am • 0 0 • view
Look, I'm not your enemy. I imagine we agree on most things. But I am an Arab man with working eyes and ears.
aug 30, 2025, 12:09 am • 0 0 • view
Sure sure, and I'm not directing this at you. But I don't see how any amount of anti-Palestinian rhetoric (usually coming from the right) can excuse any amount of anti-Ukrainian rhetoric from the left.
aug 30, 2025, 12:12 am • 1 0 • view
Genocide and occupation is bad, if it's bad to joke about genocide and occupation in one context it must be equally bad to joke about the same thing in another context. Fr, do you really think Juniper wouldn't be crucified if they tried their lol so edgy shtick about Gaza?
aug 30, 2025, 12:13 am • 0 0 • view
Are there many 🇷🇺🇮🇱 dirtbag leftist types? Or even 🇺🇦🇮🇱 ones?
aug 30, 2025, 12:10 am • 0 0 • view
"I'm allowed to have shitty opinions on Ukraine because someone, somewhere has a shitty opinion on Palestine" does not fly.
aug 30, 2025, 12:03 am • 1 0 • view
"I made up a lib in my head and said horrible things about Maripol to own him"- seek help.
aug 30, 2025, 12:04 am • 1 0 • view
Unless any of the people who actually said horrendous shit about Palestinians are involved, I don't see how that's relevant.
aug 30, 2025, 12:01 am • 0 0 • view
I joined her discord out of morbid curiousity and like a solid third of the war events channel is people furiously cranking hog to PRC landing ships
aug 29, 2025, 7:33 pm • 0 0 • view
Like... Conceptually?
aug 29, 2025, 7:42 pm • 1 0 • view
"Yooooo these landing ships that will be used to invade Taiwan are so cool"
aug 29, 2025, 7:42 pm • 0 0 • view
[5 pictures of said ship]
aug 29, 2025, 7:42 pm • 0 0 • view
👎👎👎
aug 29, 2025, 7:44 pm • 2 0 • view
admiring good craft is one thing but this sure is a stereotype lol
aug 29, 2025, 7:53 pm • 3 0 • view