This continues to highlight the fact that we need better ways to recall/remove elected officials from office. This whole "wait until their term is up" or "let Congress do it themselves" is beyond bullshit.

There would be a neverending stream of sour grapes recalls. How about WE...voters...actually develop sense and responsibility insteadof passing the buck? I mean remember people saying they wanted Avennati for President. Therr are always ALWAYS bad legislators..going back to our early republic.

Voters developing a sense of responsibility is asking so much. If that was going to happen it would've happened. We live in a time where we have nearly ALL information in our hands and we have a vast majority that are STILL politically ignorant. We need to think of other methods.

You realize states determine election laws...hows your plan going to work in that context?..i tremble at the potential recall laws in FL, OK, MI. .etc.Frankly if asking voters to be responsible is "too much"...Democracy is dead.

If you want voters to be responsible, then let's make voting 100% mandatory. Then if people fail to vote, then they incur either jail time or fines. We need healthy deterrents to encourage responsibility after all. Then maybe they'd do more research and we wouldn't need my former suggestion.

It was designed to be hard by the framers. Because they feared the people endangering their hold on property.

Actually...they never dealt with the notion or recalls one way or another...for federal officials they put impeachment in place. Local and state were left to..local and state. But sure make shit up this is social media.

This is an assumption that what is is natural and that it wasn’t a choice. The framers did not create ways to recall. They also separated voters from their representatives to a greater degree than in the prior system. These choices made it harder to both recall (assumed disallowed) and manage.

So for all your rude bluster, I didn’t make anything up. The framers made control of representatives difficult—whether through the framework of recalls or otherwise. It was a choice to control property. You could have asked what I meant rather than presume and get angry.

I mean, as even you pointed out the only method they have for removal is impeachment—the most difficult kind of recall as it is layered through other representatives and outside direct control of voters.