"Kids"? 😭 Millennials are 30-40 years old 😭😭 we have mortgages and teenage children

When are millennials going to give up on this ridiculous argument?!? Not everything has to be taught to you, ya know? Millennials are over 30. Take some responsibility for once and learn it on your own, or go get taught.

Are you actually serious Like please arriculate how someone is supposed to acquire generational knowledge from a youtube video or through vibes Or whose clutcu is it they should destroy trying to solo it? Is there a stick shift simulator like there is for airline pilots? Hmm?

Shut up nerd

When are older gens going to stop being judgmental, elitist assholes over differences in knowledge? Sure, some of us might not know how to write a check, but we have to handle tech-related problems for 4 other generations. And my first car was manual, so you're not even funny, just annoying.

Oh that's rich. To be so utterly clueless to think that the younger generation has any clue about tech. Gen Z Is Apparently Baffled by Basic Technology share.google/6RsgehsFuRXU... Gen Z has a tech skills gap at work. A Dell educator explains why share.google/xLjfG261wFSh...

Oh that's rich. To be so utterly clueless to think that the younger generation has any clue about tech. When shit gets handed to you, no, you don't know fuck all about tech. Gen Z Is Apparently Baffled by Basic Technology share.google/6RsgehsFuRXU...

Are you a bot?

Haha - Boomers are dissed ALL the time, and now y'all are getting tweaked over manual shift cars? I learned on my own, on a 1965 VW Bug. Mom couldn't drive a stick, parent's were divorced. Mastered it in 2 days. Easiest damn car to learn a stick on.

"Boomers are dissed all the time." That's funny. My generation has been bullied and judged by yours since we could barely walk. You know why everyone "disses" you now? Because no one likes Boomers. As a generation you're just bullies, we learned from you. Grow up kid.

Maybe look at my posts before you judge me, child.

Maybe mind your business if you're so different from the other Boomers. Otherwise, all you're doing is proving me right, lmao.

Ah, no sense of humor, and no clue about boomers, really. Try history, kiddo. Boomers fought the feds and won before, several times. Might have a few hints for getting through and staying alive.

Can you teach me how to crash the economy and tank the housing market while creating stagnant wages and skyrocketing costs of everything? Fought the feds? And then what? Set us up for an autocracy? Thanks Boomer!

Boomers also voted for trump both times. So like, maybe take a seat?

Boomers run a nearly 20 year birth range - so don't go lumping all the boomers into one pool. Most that I know vote progressive/social dem, while the younger generations I know mostly voted Trump or refused to vote at all, letting fascism in. I could lump you in with any of that crew, ya know?

If we go by the numbers, people aged 50+ voted majority Trump. People younger didn't.

"Don't go lumping all the boomers into one pool." ...But that is what you did. For every boomer that fought the fed, there is at least one boomer who voted for trump. You are getting upset that others are treating you as you are treating others.

And I was programming a "toy" computer to play games and leave rude messages on the TV for my sister when I was 16. BEFORE home computers were an affordable thing. BASIC was the bomb for a decade or more. My generation wrote the code behind the code you kids use. So get orffa my lawn, dammit.

How does a person learn it on their own or get taught if a manual object is not available to practice? I've asked people to teach me on their vehicle, I get a hard NO. I looked into schools in my area & the closest is an hour away & charges big $$$ per hour of instruction. I don't have goof off cash

As I've replied to someone else already, you have the world's knowledge at your fingertips. Dozens of websites and YT videos will show you exactly what you need to know to learn.

You still have to practice in the real world. YT is great for the tutorial, hands on the wheel is better. Happy to hear some suggestions on resources for irl training. Perhaps your knowledge of the car world could benefit us in the thread. I'll check your replies as well. My thanks in advance.

I literally bought my first manual car having only ever driven a manual car before a few hundred yards. Took it from the dealer lot on a multi-state road trip and put on hundreds of miles that first day. That's before the days of YT where you can learn just about any skill just watching others.

How to drive stick is a thing you were supposed to teach your kids you fucking deadbeat lmao.

Well, when you're a kid, you know when most people learn to drive, you need someone to teach you. You can't just go get a car and learn on your own You also can't just go get a manual car to learn if no one you know has one. Are you suggesting getting a rental car to learn how to drive it?

you should buy a manual transmission car and THEN learn how to drive it 👍

That was my first car experience haha I knew how to drive automatic already but my first car was manual. Peeled out in reverse the first time I tried to slowly back out of the driveway That was like 22 years ago. Ive driven maybe 2 sticks since then, none were mine. It's an unnecessary skill now 🤣

I didn't choose stick. That was just the cheapest POS car we could find

Why? Manual transmissions are essentially obsolete at this point unless you drive professionally.

Most trucks and even military vehicles are automatic. They are more resilient, more efficient, easier to operate.

Greetings from countries other than the US 🙂

Tell us you know nothing about cars, without telling us you know nothing about cars.

For normal people who just use their cars for commuting it’s obsolete. There’s no reason to have one.

Please do shut up about stuff you know nothing about.

Enlighten me then. You’re not gonna convince me by just saying “UHM, WRONG!!” What is the reason for someone who doesn’t drive professionally in any capacity, aside from personal preference, to have a manual over an automatic?

Extra control. More fun. Forced to pay attention - god forbid! Dramatically reduced brake wear. More involved in the driving experience, rather than being another brainless drone. Jumping it without needing a pack. Cheaper. Lighter. Fewer repairs. Fewer parts in general to break.

So it does just amount to personal preference. People who choose automatics have decided the trade offs are worth it.

Personally, I just like the extra control when you find yourself in difficult conditions and I get annoyed when a sudden incline takes an auto by surprise. It's niche, I grant you, but that's why I like manuals. I also don't much value the reduced effort of an auto but that's personal preference.

I get where you're coming from and that's why I use the paddles in non-commuter situations. I used to hate the idea of a CVT til I got my OBW. Now, especially in tricky offroad situations, I love what that + X-Mode unlocks Buuut I also fully realize that if the computers glitch, I'm fucked.

With my previous 5MT, sure, it sucked in a long ass traffic jam, wasn't as fun on some kinds of terrain, but... Manual. Post-crash dystopian America, the older manuals are the only cars that'll keep going. DIY on my 99 Forester was easy. On this one... yeah, I'd be fucked

I drive stick and it's literally less than 1% of cars in north America calm down

and we all know that "north America" = "the whole world"

You’ve popped into thread of Americans speaking with other Americans my friend. We tend to speak about things as they pertain to America because that’s where we live.

You've somehow simultaneously missed the point completely while also reinforcing the joke. Also I'm American.

Oh I was supposed to laugh? Normally a joke involves setup and then payoff

lol

Would you like a cookie

Sorry latest stat is 1.8%

My track car is a stick. Grew up on a farm driving everything including tractors which were all manual. All our current farm equipment uses automatics. Nobody needs them. They can be fun to drive but offer no real advantages over other transmissions. Even F1 has abandoned them.

The benefits of a manual are the fun & control of rowing your own gears & knowing that you are controlling the vehicle. A manual is the difference b/w making your own food or building your own cabinets versus buying mass produced or overlay processed shit. Also cheaper, lighter, reduce brake wear.

No reason? I've been driving stick for 40 years, putting up to 265K miles on vehicles before retiring them. I've never had a transmission go bad. While theoretically it's possible for a standard transmission to go bad, they cost much less to replace & once replaced, they work. There's your reason.

Car person here. You’re correct.

You're messing with "religion" beware.

True ‘dat! I know people that have more cash invested in stuff on their driveway than what they live in.

Not my first rodeo in that case

It's a skill most people don't have a routine need for, sure. Until you do. I have many stories but all come down to "it was problematic that many other people couldn't drive my car, so eventually I gave up and started buying automatics."

I drive manual, it’s literally more difficult to get a new vehicle with manual transmission than automatic. It’s not 1982 anymore, the vast majority of cars are automatic transmission. People can very easily and comfortably go their whole lives without driving a manual

Aside from sometimes needing very fine control of your vehicle ... and feeling cool. What specifically are you gaining with a stick? And I've driven to stick for several years prior ...

Tell us you think you know about cars without telling us you think you know about cars

Tell me more about a "skill" you could learn in a day.

This is such a wild thing to read when you're from a country where there are almost exclusively manual transmissions.

And naturally, i'm sure there is a culture of mentoring new drivers that comes from that. Now imagine every employer, parent, and school just shrugged and said "fuck this teaching you is too hard, kid"

That’s fair. I’ve admittedly never left the U.S. but manual transmissions are not common here at all anymore.

We moved from U.K. to Canada and I insisted on a manual transmission because there were ENOUGH changes in my life all at once to deal with. There’s only I guy at garage who can drive it when it’s serviced 😬

"Obsolete" pffffff

No one from the U.S. has told me I’m wrong for any reason that doesn’t boil down to “i prefer them”.

Don’t rent a car in Europe.

I can barely afford to travel to a state next to mine. I don’t think that’ll be an issue.

Don’t take a job as a valet

If i ever do it will probably be as part of a ruse for a heist.

Go anywhere in Europe (or most of the rest of the world) and try to get a rental car. The first question I got asked in Iceland was “can you drive standard?”

OK, how do they learn it on their own?

you’re right, name one good reason a millennial doesn’t go and buy a car they can’t drive off the lot so they can “figure it out themselves” my parents taught me to drive stick. they had cars that were stick so i could learn. it’s really not as simple as “just figure it out lol”

My 1st manual car, I had never driven a manual car more than a few hundred yards. Drove it off the dealer lot & took it on a multi-state road trip w/ a friend that same day. It really is as simple as "just figure it out" but I guess that involves putting a bit of effort.

Nobody is responsible for teaching obscure skills, no. It's not bad parenting not to teach stick especially when it's hard to even find one. You can't easily rent one (for good reasons) and it's impractical to buy one just to teach a teen. There are way bigger ways our parents failed us.

my parents drove American made family sedans of the 1980s and 90s, and that categorically excludes manual transmissions. my parents bought old cheap cars, but the insurance made frivolous extra vehicles inaccessible. The choice was really made by Detroit executives.

Yes. And we know how to drive stick, grandpa.

"When are millennials going to stop calling out our faults and inability to be parents??" Lol

The same day boomers learn to save their own pdfs.

When are boomers going to give up on this bullshit culture war?!? I never gave myself a participation trophy but I too often see people patting themselves on the back for knowing how to do something that other people don't.

It's all they have left. They increasingly need to feel superior because they're facing down a future full of medical bankruptcy, nursing homes, and a family that really doesn't want to go see them. And it's all their own fault.

Meanwhile people your age trying to teach you the internet: 😭😭😭

Millennials out here being more knowledgeable about the most relevant technology than every other generation just to be told "herp derp, you can't write a check or drive a manual." I can actually do both of those things, but haven't needed to for over a decade.

I’m sure you didn’t learn how to drive a manual on your own

I literally bought my first new manual car and from the dealer lot took it on a 4 hr trip through 3 states with a buddy having never driven a manual car more than a few hundred yards before.

My parents were Boomers. Dad drove a Manual but stopped long before I could drive. Mother claims she can but she’s a habitual liar that I’ve never seen drive a Manual. So therefore I haven’t drove a Manual. Get fucked.

You have all the world's knowledge at your fingertips. You could find a dozen websites or YT videos teaching the subject or go to a driving school. So really we come to the truth that only laziness keeps you from actually learning. Easier to blame others than putting in a tiny bit of effort.

Better question is WHY I would want to. There’s no call for it. You’re just being an asshole to people not doing things they don’t have to.

And also. Outside of some niche appeal and use ... made totally irrelevant. It's the same reason we dont teach Morse code in school.

It's not easy finding cars with a stick. When my last stick was killed by an inattentive driver (not me!) I was told that the closest manual model was like in the MidWest & I would have to pay $$$ for the transport,

You can’t get them on economy cars anymore. You pay a $10-20k premium for them on a top tier, low volume model of the economy car.

Yes. I had a lower end Ford, which I loved! It was about 30 years ago, and it got over 40 mpg on the highway! And was so excellent in the snow.