How the fuck do you claim to be a leftist while following Tom “I’m not responsible for fascism, leftist are for warning us too early” Nichols And don’t say “hate following” because you shouldn’t be doing that 🙃
How the fuck do you claim to be a leftist while following Tom “I’m not responsible for fascism, leftist are for warning us too early” Nichols And don’t say “hate following” because you shouldn’t be doing that 🙃
Like maybe if y’all stopped hate following these awful people and used your considerable platform to encourage everybody to block them they wouldn’t have as much reach 🤯
I like Tom. He's not awful.
He blocked me. It was kinda okay. Then BlueSky happened. Now I'm skeptical of BlueSky.
Curious why you call him an awful person?
Why do I call someone who used their platform to scold leftists about warning people about fascism too soon awful? That a serious question?
Yes absolutely. You’re free to disagree with his take there. I’m not even sure I agree with that particular take. It’s a pretty big leap to just call someone an “awful person” based on don that type of disagreement. Is everyone you disagree with “awful” in your eyes?
There’s a lot of folks here who seem to have a blind spot for blatant Islamophobia
1) Cry more 2) Stop celebrity worshiping a fucking journalist 3) He's awful because he literally leans in on bad takes like that and never course corrects, because he doesn't care about journalism or the facts, he cares about his fucking ego 4) Stop celebrity worshipping fucking journalists
You seem nice. Not broken by social media at all. “Cry more” lol
He's a lifelong Republican. There are scant few right wingers I wouldn't throw into a wood chipper in the first place, and none of them are Republicans.
I would argue the definition or Republican has changed a lot over that period of time. Also probably not a great way to live life basing your judgement of human beings on such a simplistic label. Just being blue MAGA.
or you could debate his ideas and convert moderates. I'm suspicious of any ideological group who not only refuses to debate but pressures their adherents to not even listen to alternative ideas
Debate perverts love to pretend they are making an actual impact on the world. You think that the solution is for toxic ideas to be out there and we all debate them instead of being like "hey this is fact and this is fiction, we should pay attention to fact" Get fucked
Have you ever considered that maybe you aren’t a particularly good person?
You're moderate enough for me. Let's go smash some paradigms.
Cool, let's debate Palestine. Maybe let one speak at the Democratic convention. Oops.
Debates necessitate critical think to ensure your arguments are sound. Ideologues who refuse to debate tend to dehumanize others and reduce their opponents to the most extreme least representative form. You don't want ideological purity. You want an optimally just belief system. You need vetting
We’ve debated ourselves into a Nazi epidemic. Maybe shut the fuck up about debating?
Your pinned skeet is ridiculous brainless racist propaganda justifying a modern Holocaust and you think refusing to debate dumb fucks like you online is dehumanizing?
writing impenetrable paragraphs of bullshit no one reads online is really moving the needle, you are very smart
Something, something, tend to dehumanize others and reduce their opponents to the most extreme least representative form... Something
If that's impenetrable then maybe you should question your own intelligence
Or maybe you need to learn how to actually communicate and relate to fellow human beings. It'll do wonders for your programming, bot.
would have loved to see you call chomsky a debate pervert back in the day. you are a moron.
Many of us have listened since Reagan. What do you think we've missed?
It's easy to get radicalized in an echo chamber especially one that is controlled like the left's is. You may have began with a justified and vetted cause but if you are not hearing rebuttals you accumulate half baked reactionary conclusions that not only are wrong but hurt vulnerable people
That does not answer the question. I've heard it. I don't need to hear it again. They can call me when they come up with something other than "control the browns and women, make the rich richer".
Politics and the world are not as simple as you. You should engage with the others so you have a nuanced, informed opinion not one that gives you the ignorant delusion that you're virtuous
Dear Ass, I have been doing so for 60ish years. Much like I, much to my regret, chose to engage with you. Piss off.
Just block next time. No need for the dramatic diva exits
Oh, I didn't exit. I did exactly what I wished.
We get it, you’re one of those performative nuance freaks who’s too much of a special boy deep thinker to ever reach a conclusion on anything. You’re welcome to do this kind of intellectual masturbation if you like, but no one is obligated to respect it or you.
Oh no wait, I checked your profile. You’re not just some dork debate lord, you’re the actively bloodthirsty war-on-terror-zionist type of freak who loves terrorist states. You deserved more contempt than I initially showed for you, and I promise to do better.
You're free to make any conclusion about me you want to. This thread is about leftists' demanding nobody follow moderates like Tom Nichols. Please let me know if you need any more assistance.
You’re nazi filth posing as a debate dork in hopes of drawing in the ignorant. You should follow your leader.
lmao to your first sentence, nah to your second
Cults resort to echo chambers. So do extremist religious groups. If echo chambers do not radicalize then why do insular extremist groups resort to them?
can you point to the left echo chamber because i would like to find one
The site you're on. The feed you curated. Most universities. Only 10 percent of university professors are conservative. Only 2% at ivy league schools
Weird how, worldwide, higher education levels equate with more liberal views. Almost like conservatives are ignorant.
conservatives seem to think that anything that doesn’t explicitly cater to them is a left echo chamber. its so weird. they used to think twitter and cnn was a left echo chamber too
this website is not a left echo chamber, don’t know where you pulled that from but you are wrong. i don’t believe your numbers, but were they true i would wonder why people on the left are more likely to go into education than people on the right
Look at its timeline.
Lmaooooooo this is major dipshit behavior. There's no algorithm here. If 10% of professors are conservative, that means 10% of professors are bigoted racist anti human pieces of shit :) there's your rebuttal
And you can back that claim with evidence? Cause I can find none.
Whats the rebuttal on abolishing human rights? Dummy
When I was at college long ago, everyone used to discuss everything with anyone. I don't know when the moronic thing of signalling your virtue by saying what you don't listen to something began. I used to see it on the Fox forums, ("I don't listen to CNN!"). Now it's everywhere.
How long ago because far enough back (the 1960’s) white students were rioting to protest desegregation of their universities in some places
LMAO no
This never happened, this is a fantasy you’ve imagined
Only leftwards
You CANT debate him. He won't let you. That's the problem.
You can debate his followers. I have on Israel. Most of them engage with you and from my experience, if you don't get in Tom's face he'll leave you alone
You’re a Zionist shitbag of course they engage with you
You’re not debating him, you agree with him. bsky.app/profile/dark...
So, you’re a fucking coward and you’re proud of that somehow?
as long as youre willing to agree with him that we're engaged in a clash of civilizations with our muslim inferiors, he's as pleasant as the day is long! start debating that, though, and suddenly he starts getting antsy.
People like Tom don’t do debates. He insta-blocks.
There’s nothing to debate You masturbating over who you want to murder or who you are OK letting others murder is weird gross and vile, I won’t coddle your miserable cruelty
Wait wasn't the left literally masturbating over Luigi's murder? Didn't they cheer on the murder of a young Jewish couple? The left celebrated the trump assignation attempts. Who have I ever wanted to murder?
“The left?” So every single leftist then huh? Or maybe just a vocal minority you purposely give credence to in your biased mind, biased like us all except that you run cover for the genocidal military power
I’m sorry. I thought I was talking to someone mature. You may continue to throw your temper tantrum
Many people (including Liberals and rightwingers) "masturbated" over Luigi murdering a mass murderer. So?
I think it’s important to point these things out: Has Luigi been found guilty in a court of law? Then under rule of law he isn’t guilty. AND whomever murdered the CEO murdered one person but the CEO murdered millions. So anyone upset about the ceo being murdered is OK with murder by bureaucracy
"Buh whatabout buh whatabout buh whatabout buh whatabout hub whatabout buh whatabout buh whatabout" See? This is why no one wants to "debate" you. Because you're a fucking child.
Why wouldn't you spend more time giving leftists traction and less time giving fascists platforms? I'm not going to debate that. You're a moron. Figure your shit out or be ranked with those you ally yourself with.
There is no mythical moderate fascist vote to capture. Stop trying.
it's never worked in the history of politics, and in fact has led directly to Democratic wipeouts in multiple elections over the past two decades, but keep huffing those farts buddy I'm sure enlightenment will eventually come
Name anytime that's actually worked.
Sorry but when the debate is on something as fucking stupid as "We have Fascism here today because 'The Left (TM)' spoke about fascism too much" is nothing but an emotionally stunted, stupid, and nonsensical "argument". Do you argue with children over where babies come from?
Shut up
This whole conversation was so funny because I wasn't even talking about normal people disagreeing, I was specifically talking about JOURNALISTS and how it's actually not good that they don't say what is actually true but let "both sides" go at it. But also- bsky.app/profile/zomb...
People had to trip all over themselves to say that no actually, a journalist should not look out the window and see if it's raining or not, they should just let people debate it- then wonder why I say it's bad actually to follow those types of journalists. The proof is in the audience
Sorry to get ranty again LOL
No that is fine I’m only here to make fun of debate perverts
Convert moderates with a trebuchet.
shut the fuck up, Zionist
Or you could eat my shit and hair
Go scold people elsewhere, please.
Liberals are weird.
...I just realized someone I quoteposted follows Megan McArdle and that's a new level of dumb
I follow him because I like him and enjoy reading/listening to what he has to say. So there you go.
I’m a leftist and I follow Tom because I like him. No one appointed you gatekeeper of leftists, but I bet it feels good to pretend to be
Weird how many "leftists" are yearning to be a part of a cult of personality, like MAGA. 😬
Where do you see this happening? What is the cult? What personality? It's real easy to say, but where's your evidence? Incidental? Manufactured? A single response? Show me on the doll where the pronouns hurt you.
Who is the personality?
Sadly there are people so invested in being known as a leftist that they will let some rando gatekeep the entire category and dictate their follows.
Megan, with all due respect, this Democrat will follow Tom, and any conservative against trump, before I follow you.
no hate-following? then maybe you dont belong here on bluesky. maybe you would prefer
I don't have a purity test.
“Purity test” is just another word for “beliefs” with you people
🐖 🐷 🐽
That's because you're literally a cop lmao
That's why we got Trump. Y'all will drink poison
Shut the fuck up Megannnnnn.
Do you want to be part of a permanent minority political party? Or, will you consider moderate views? Or, at least be willing to hear them?
And if we were reliving any of those elections any time soon, I would strongly disagree with Tom's electoral choices. I still appreciate his current views and insight.
lol.
lol indeed, stay irrelevant.
I'm not seeking political relevance. But hey, thanks for that.
Moderate for whom?
Define moderate views. Here's a flash of mine. Land back Abolish the police Abolish the judicial system until systemic racism has been eliminated Abolish prisons Abolish the Senate Equity for all Autonomy for all Healthcare for all Living wage Housing for all without conditions Register every gun
Yeah the "Everyone who doesn't agree with me is a fascist!" take is tiring and frankly snacks of a bit of narcissism
Because some people aren’t afraid of other viewpoints that challenged their own. And your characterization of Nichols seems simplistic and possibly wrong? All the best. Good luck with that purity test in our fight with fascism. Personally I’ll take all the allies I can get.
"I don't care about your beliefs as long as you are on my team" is just a purity test for "being on your team" stupid.
(Uh, Nichols is often simplistic and wrong.) He can be entertaining.
In your opinion. And this would mean you must follow him closely in order to make that grand statement.
Here it is. www.nytimes.com/2017/03/21/b...
People forget the Tom Nichols types teach at our war colleges and are presented as experts, yet NATO can’t even defeat the Taliban, and has no plan to deal with Russia. I think “foreign policy experts” should be facing some tough questions about their capabilities, not writing pompous books.
He's totally pompous.
He's in my feed. Sometimes I click through and give it a read. He can be simplistic and wrong. I find him entertaining. 🤷🏻♀️
And, who else's opinion would it be?
Nichols is a fascist. You're not fighting fascism, you're fighting with fascism against leftists. Hope that helps.
And you’re a dipshit.
Better a dipshit than a fascist!
Maybe leftists should claim to be Americans instead and work with anyone who wants to preserve the Constitution.
The current dismantling of the constitution is a decades long project by the right wing that only culminated with Trump, which you would know if you paid attention to literally any history before 2016. The people you typed demand we side with are the ones who paved the way for this.
Just Republicans? As if Democrats ever met executive overreach they didn’t like (as long as it was done by a Democrat).
Why would a leftist want to preserve the second oldest constitution still in use, written by slave owners, that doesn't represent the majority of its population?
Also it's incredible to claim that people who completely ignored the left saying "hey fascism is coming" were the ones who were interested in stopping fascism. It's why Trump is not president and everything is fine now Also yeah, fuck the Constitution, I'd save maybe like 3 things from it
I would save "We the People" and force the entire congress and supreme court to sign it. But the rest, including the Bill of Rights and articles, gone
The left was so concerned about fascism that they stay home on election day and let fascists win. Weird strategy.
Weird how you make it the fault of the people completely disenfranchised by the treatment of trans people, Arab Americans, and homeless vets or the lack of information as to what will be done to our for them versus the 78m that literally voted for fascism. Squeaky clean deflection.
*or not our
It would represent the people better if the people actually voted.
Don't know if you noticed. But we did vote. You pretend like there's some magical thing where people feel represented enough to be excited to vote. We watch dems march farther right election over election instead of engaging and addressing our issues, our needs, our visions for the future.
Or do you just want to make bland statements to feel like you can't get anyone to talk about it because it's the same tired points over and over. Name a bland in the last major race that was a leftist, not a Democrat. I can.
Childish take. Listen to all voices and maybe learn something.