It's what makes me laugh and be resilient in these threads. If you knew me irl then we'd likely get along. just cause it's the Internet and I like discussing political strategy I'm obviously evil and responsible for everything bad in the world. It's interesting. Also like the good faith discussions.

You like good faith discussions while describing what is happening here in the most bad faith way? I can promise you from the bottom of my heart we would not get along IRL. I would find you equally as insufferable as I do now. The ppl most convinced they are different offline usually aren't

Here's strategy discussion then I'm out- Democrats have been bleeding popular support since before I was born. In the wake of RFK's assassination the corporate wing of the party starting pushing milquetoast republican lite Dems and it did not work for them. They took the win of Reagan as

a sign to do that even more and ended up losing even bigger to him the second time. It came to a bit of a head with the election of a "Reagan Democrat" in Bill Clinton. From there the party has leaned fully into protecting the donor class and themselves while sacrificing all others.

Every time there was a break in this strategy it worked but the party immediately shut that down. The party has been a party solely for the donors since before I was born and I'm nearly 40. They lost and we're all losing and you should be pissed at them Have a whatever one

I am. I don't claim to like them. Nowhere did I say that. What I will say and have said is that the time to suppress your own vote is not the general. And when people talk about a purity test at that point they are saying you need to realistically assess for outcomes. Not a POS for thinkin that.

Yes you are There is no general election happening and you are still choosing to spend your energy this way instead of demanding better. Oh yeah and aren't you not even from here? I just laid out why Dems are losing and your reply is "well but vote for them anyway" Get bent

Primaries are not long off... I hope there is actual engagement to get what WE want.

Primaries are YEARS AWAY, you dense fucking turd!!

thehill.com/homenews/cam...

don’t sell yourself short

Thank you for ICE

Hey did you know that Gore actually won the 2000 election but the Dems refused to take on the fight to overturn Bush stealing it and then Bush went on to create ICE. You are literally allergic to holding Dems accountable so thank you for all this. Also good job on the honest discourse

guessing I went outside your scope of knowledge politics with my replies and so that's why you are falling back on old ways. You could just admit your ignorance and try learning. It's the adult thing to do

That was Bush.

WHAT ARE YOU A FRIGGEN PENGUIN

ICE was a Bush project

lmao how did I create ice?

ICE was created under Bush and Biden voted for it

Dems spent the last 4 year smajing sure that ICE and all police had more resources, more people and more money to keep us down. What's your response? "Yeah, but they didn't brag about it!"

Naw, I was being flippant here, I do apologise. What I meant to convey was "But ICE under Trump versus ICE under Kamela is orders of manitude worse"

I love when you liberal bitches bring up ice to use as a cudgel against leftists, it so clearly shows that you have never even thought about ice and all the harm its been doing for 2 fucking decades

Lol immigrantjustice.org/press-releas...

Where did I describe it in the most bad faith way? I admit OP starting out by calling me a piece of shit probably was a bit triggering. Meh. I'll stop now. Ciao!