Meta and X are in a panic over Blue Sky's rapid rise, threatening dominance over their platforms, with no apparent way to combat it.
Meta and X are in a panic over Blue Sky's rapid rise, threatening dominance over their platforms, with no apparent way to combat it.
If I know Fuckerberg and Elon, they'll ask Trump to sign an executive order banning Bluesky and establishing Meta and X as the official American social media apps.
They will likely ban it as an option for official accounts. But the odd Citizens United thing? Well since corporations are people and since Free Speech is still technically legal that would likely fail in court. Because oddly Magats want to keep Citizens United.
Twitter became a cesspool of fascist right-wing propaganda, wacky conspiracies, spambots, porn adds, crap service, piss poor algorithms and a lot of bugs after that sieg-hail saluting ketamine junkie took over.
I got messaged several times on twitter about coming over to my place and murder me etc... Reported that and receive one day later that no rules were being broken. I mean come on!? Flat out death threats. In my country you get jail time for that. 😜 But I guess that is okay as long you support Musk.
Commonplace on X.
How do you know this? I’d love it to be true.
Cite
wait till someone builds online Office type suite with Privacy like Duck3Go's Browser
And people wonder why tiktok ban was threatened. Besides the normal racism
Well then..perhaps they shouldn't have been such Dicks.
I joined blue sky to f**k over elon but I'm actually enjoying it.
No doubt that Trump’s latest behaviour adds to the momentum.
What if they spammed this with bots?
“no apparent way to combat it” because they do not want to give up the policies that drove us all out of there in the first place. Imagine Meta shutting down their data mining ops? Imagine twitter not being used as the CEO’s personal propaganda machine? Hard to imagine.
Have they tried not being garbage fires? Nah, that would make sense.
I would pay for a BlueSky subscription to keep it from being bought out
I mean - they could try not being NAZI assholes...
Once a Nazi, always a Nazi. And they’ll die like a Nazi too.
elmo is trying by making up xitter stats. Active users there skew heavily toward putin stooges paid in daily potatoes.
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I don’t think anyone cares about Blue sky at all. I’ve seen both Meta and X, and I’ve seen nothing about this place at all. Just like Truth Social. Ya see a mention maybe once every couple weeks, then you forget about it.
My boss a die hard FB fan reported she’s leaving it. FB friends have lost civility and gone are safe guards once in place. Reporting a page for vile content only gets a message saying it was not found to violate standards. trumps win she said made it take a bad turn. My opinion: 🖕🏽—> X and🖕🏽—> FB
Meta could combat it by making a drastic swing to the left and addressing their better audience. X is a dumpster fire that needs to be put down.
Maybe they should make better platforms and stop being Nazis.
Yup, deleted my Facebook, I still use Instagram for work but, that's the next one in the list. Never had Twitter so that was easy. Loooove this platform and glad to be here.
Do you really think 32 million users is scaring those companies? IT is just an existential threat at this point, Meta has billions of users, X has around a billion. They are exponentially larger in reach and dominance of public conversation.
X has a billion? It has less than 1/3 of that.
Your right, thank you, about 300 million (who knows what number are bots, right?)
The only thing I miss about the bird is Spaces
And not to mention, Trump's little Twitter clone.
I deleted my 2 FB + 3 Insta accounts Was pretty hard for me as I'm literally outsourcing my memory with them. Had to save the archives, left a hand full of friends' accounts who passed away, family with no other contact. It still gives me anxiety and had to prepare 2 months, but I'm happy I did.
And now the X account which I thought until now that I already deleted it months ago...
Source?
It sure is nice having a platform that actually does moderation.
Don't worry about it. It isn't X.
Time to lobby to ban bluesky
Deleted Twitter in 2020. Best thing I ever did
We better get ready to be hacked and trolled then.
They could try sucking less
I mean…they could stop supporting fascism. But naaa. They ain’t gonna.
So far really enjoying BlueSky! Screw Zio🇮🇱Nazi Fuckerberg 🤮🤬💩
InstaScam irritates the hell outta me! I stand with Palestine 🇵🇸 so I’m constantly censored, blocked to give a ‘like’ ❤️, comment, or follow new people! And they deleted my original account with over 2000 photos!
They could combat it, but they aren't willing to do it.
"No apparent way to combat it" = $$, ego, and abuse isn't popular enough!
Cry me a river, Zuckerberg and Trusk. Poor babies!
What, can't an Executive Order fix that problem?? I've been told that an EO can do anything.😕
The driving ideology behind Bluesky is to facilitate community. The driving ideology behind Meta and X is to monetize all aspects of it. They have no way to combat it because their driving ideology will immediately poison anything they create.
I just hope Bluesky won’t sell out to another asshole tech oligarch like happened with WhatsApp
WhatsApp hurts because I need that app to stay in contact and be able to call several friends that lives outside of my continent. Would have costed a fortune to use the ordinary line.
Yep. At some point the equity supporting Bluesky is going to want its ROI, so we'll see. There was talk of a subscription option, but haven't seen anything yet.
Who could've guessed: Allowing bigotry and misogyny on your platform makes ppl go away? No way sherlock, next thing you'll tell me is that water is wet.
They could try to not openly support the facistic regime. 🤷🏾♂️
Have they tried not courting literal fucking nazis?
They could stop sucking. But we know that won’t happen, so bye!
I mean they always COULD stop supporting fascists and making folks feel uncomfortable.
People literally just want a safe and welcoming platform that isn't overrun by ads, where hate speech isn't allowed, and misinformation is kept in check. They could easily achieve those things, if they *actually* wanted to prevent their own downfall. Oh well. 🤷🏻♀️
Maybe if X had quit fucking with the algorithm that got my feed full of right wing bullshit, I’d still be there. Facebook seems to be going down the same path.
And bots. Every post I made in C was instantly flooded with replies and likes from Chanel’s with zero followers and girls in bikini as profile pic.
Why would they quit? That's literally what they want.
I guess....but they are alienating alot of people in the process.
He bought Twitter at a hugely inflated price because it wasn't about making money, it was about controlling the message. It was about power. An organized and informed population would be capable of challenging the agenda of Eloph Shitler and his friends.
Be less awful. That's it that's the answer Mark and Elon.
How dare you trample their First Amendment right to be awful and encourage awfulness. /s
The first amendment protects your right to express your opinion. It does not defend you from repercussions.
Yes, I know. That's why I added the /s.
X can sink in a black hole
Let the fascist dominated X die in silence, stop supporting dictators and Nazis, leave X so fast you can.
Once leon takes over the icann, ftc etc. he can refuse all traffic to bluesky servers from and to the us.
I'd love for you to be right but is this your gut feel?
I’ve said this multiple times and I’ll keep repeating it: Bluesky should monetize through monthly subscriptions to help subsidize their costs. Even with the existing dominance of X and Meta, a truly moderated platform sans advertising is a winning formula.
Bluesky works, yes. I like it, yes. It is not threatening dominance. How many reposts or likes is the highest you’ve seen on your feed today? That’s a selling point though. Dominance usually makes a social media site predatory.
My posts get more attention here, and from real people. On X, the algorithm was constantly suppressing my content. I see my posts on Bluesky shared across multiple platforms by others.
same! i see art get a lot more attention even with fewer followers than on twatter...
Shame that. *sips coffee*
The way to combat them seems fairly apparent. They just don't want to get rid of Nazis.
Got rid of Twitter. Only fb I have left is a monetized troll account I use to troll on right wing pages. Beyond that we done with em.
No apparent way… I mean, they could try allowing facts to be published.
That's crazy talk!
Bluesky has over 50,000 users worldwide, less than the population of Portland Oregon in the U.S. Facebook, sadly, has about 3 billion. We underestimate what a massive difference that is, because we don't often deal with billions in a practical way. Zuck & Musk with a 1% reduction sauce, please.
FUCK! I love it when I'm wrong about bad shit! That is such a huge jump! Still way less than 3 billion, but WOW! Thank you, that made my day.
50k?? lmao Facebook has probably 2 billion bots (although I am very suspicious of your figures, clearly made by trump himself) , and besides having an account and using it are two different things
My numbers were just out of date, don't worry, I've already been corrected, and if you think I'm a Trump supporter, nothing could be further from the truth. There was just a huge jump in members. I have only been informed of the number count by the sites themselves. (A google search for Facebook.)
Good, then we'll keep it up!
Yea, they’ll get Big Brother involved soon enough. Soo, smoke em while you got em.
X went end of 2024, not used Bookface for years!
Oh well. They jumped in bed with Trump and we hate Trump for the misery he and Elon are causing to many Americans. I actually felt great dumping all Meta and x platforms. I love being on the right side of history most of all.
I doubt it. Bluesky has 32.5 million users. A very little compaired to the numbers of X, Facebook, Insta en Threads.
Meta and X artificially inflate with bots and dead accounts.
Today I saw my first obvious Russian troll account on BlueSky. I reported and blocked. Don’t want trash Russians and Nazis ruining this platform.
Can't wait for the photosharing app they're gonna do.
Where did you source this? I'd love to read the article. 👍
So your comment is made up in your head, because you saw bluesky subscription numbers. Nice. I thought only the other dide did that.
Fuck it. This is a post-truth era.
Lol yes, but our side was supposed to be above that, werent we? Either way - soothing your angst with bullshit - leads to more ineffectualism. But at least people can feel a little better while their democracy is being dissassembled. 👍
Can you source that with an article? I’d love to read it.
Source what dude? And you bet your ass I can source anything I state as fact.
“Soothing your angst with bullshit leads to ineffectualism.” That’s not even a word so good luck.
Apparently the National Review doesnt know it's not a word also. www.nationalreview.com/2013/09/amer...
Not a word? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 So at least it's now clear what kind of intellect Im dealing with here. Let me simplify it for you - I bet wiki is just your style. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant...
I doubt this is true, but I will take some fake news right now because they are the only good ones. 😍
Yeah, it's awesome. What we maybe seeing is when you're organized as a "benefit corporation," you actually provide a good service that people are drawn to, by the quality of the service and the people that service attracts. This is the way of the future.
They would have to sell their platforms to someone who's not a POS!
arent they capitalists? just make a better product bruh.
They're suddenly not very free market oriented when it negatively impacts their business
Failing businesses are always socialist.
Muhahahaha
Be lucky if it maintains #3 when somebody doesn't do this to the ecosystem of dumb dev ideas to have a "public network" where nothing is private and forced to hack around it just for DMs. Not even an old site, already caught itself in several oopsies and the public thing is fkn dumdum.
Is this website really that popular?
Why do they even care
Fellow leftists and even some libs don't want to be a puppet for the right to demean, threaten and harass. Trans people don't want to be subjected toeven worse bc Meta and Shitter have decided that hate speech is only allowed towards us, and hate speech against the people attacking us? How dare you
I was never on Twitter. I created this account for exactly this reason. Turns out that it's also kinda fun here.
Deleted my Twitter account the day after Musk bought it.
Good. Meta and X are shit platforms.
You might say, they did Nazi that one coming... 🥁
Question - do you know of any other apps that are good for groups? I like the group feature of FB, would be happy to explore alternative platforms
Hell yeah! It’s a marathon but we are getting somewhere. We keep going ✊🏼
Lmao I use both I wasn't aware there was an app war🤨
bluesky has 1/10 the users of Threads and 1/20 of Twitter
Not sure about those stats, but take away the bots on X and recalculate.
easy for you to say, impossible for me to do
I bet they are trying to figure out some way to buy the systems or to control the NSA or whatever to block it. The narcissist's worst enemy is truth. The more you can keep them glued to trying to shut it up the last time they'll spend constructing false narratives.
I proudly deleted my Twitter and Meta accounts.
I deleted Twitter as soon as NaziMusk renamed it X. I still have meta but I’m logged out everywhere. It’s difficult because as a self employed musician all social media is important to notify listeners of music and performances. But it’s worth it.
Me too!
I deleted Twitter about two days after the asshole bought it. I still have Facebook for now, mainly for band promotion and keeping up with events. Would love to ditch it for good, maybe Bluesky will consider implementing a few of the things we are missing from those other platforms.
Truly I only still have FB for the marketplace and snowmobiling club(s)
Same!
Same here. I miss the Chicago community I was part of on Twitter (a lot of them haven’t moved over to Blue Sky yet) and the local-politics discussions I was part of, since Blue Sky for me is much more of a “my national anti-Trump thoughts” platform, but I have no regrets otherwise
Yeah, there were some great people on Twitter, but after the election, I just couldn't stand being there anymore. It's such a cesspool.
I kept my Meta because I have a lot of memories and professional connections on there, but I almost exclusively post Leftist, Pro-LGBTQ, Anti-Trump, Anti-Musk content on there. Xitter got deleted without hesitation.
I haven’t deleted meta yet - too many memories - but I’m limiting use to 15 min a day.
It was hard, but when my feed was getting flooded with unchecked disinformation, while my boyfriend was warned for a post perceived as disinformation, I had to leave. I'm done.
I’ve set a timer for 30 minutes a day so that I don’t spend much time on there anymore. I never get on instagram. I don’t even have the app anymore.
I had instagram but never used it, so that one was easier for me. Limiting your time on there is a great idea! I suspect it will have Twitter toxicity before too long.
And you can download your history before deleting. Every pic, like, comment, post, connection, will be saved: www.cnet.com/tech/service...
I will use this. I hardly use my FB account and have gotten contact info for friends from overseas. I’ll be shutting it all down soon.
Yass! Tell your friends!
You can limit their ability to monetize your data: www.eff.org/deeplinks/20...
I use meta for WhatsApp (work use only) and messenger (too many people I've no other way of contacting) My phone doesn't allow me to delete FB from my phone so I've disabled it.
Wait - what do you mean your phone doesn’t allow you to delete it?
Samsung It came with certain apps preloaded that can't be deleted (or at least without a knowledge of programming far above my (non-existent) own)
Holy crap. I just read up on this. That’s insane! Also seems like it’s a design flaw that won’t be done again.
It’s pre-install so there’s no way to delete it only disabling it
I haven't deleted meta yet, but I'm limiting use to one minute every 15 days xD
Good idea I have been struggling that is what I will do
I never use instagram except to pull recipes my wife has made so I can contribute ideas to the weekly meal prep, lol. So that was an easy 15 minute limit.
Got off FB two years ago, the best thing I’ve ever done.
Is it the best thing you’ve done because it created some tangible benefit (happier/more focused/more present/etc) or because Zuck’s an asshole and you didn’t give him business anymore? Genuine question, I’m not being a smartass.
For me it was actually both.
I think both. So many of my FB friends/family were/are trumpers who fell for all the disinfo and it frustrated the hell out of me. I always felt it was an unproductive waste my of time. I miss baby pics etc but I’m happier without it. Also, IMO FB got us Trump and Zuck sucks.
Shame...
Sure hope so
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I doubt they are panicking, that would require critical thinking.
If Meta hadn't slept on Threads for so long, they might've had a chance. But letting the algorithm be terrible for so long let BlueSky start to gain steam. Then Zuck went all in with the far right, and that caused a lot us that jumped ship from Twitter to also leave Threads as well
Well I know… it’s called hiring a safety team again and kicking the bots and nazis off your platforms 🤷🏼♂️
Huge if true
Good!
I'm on another Twitter ban because I chose to speak freely about my opinion on musk.
The obvious way to combat it is to shut it down with the government. When you don't have to obey rules or can just make them up whenever it really won't be a problem.
I thought I’d miss it…I’ve only had a couple of instances of rude comments, people do the right things on here 🥹❤️
Don't be evil
Apparrent? If it was chinese they would ddos it like deepseek. Its run by a US company so ig there is still a bit of fair play
There is a simple way to combat it. Stop being dicks!
Still a far way to go. But depending on the extent of development, BS can take over x in the future
Facebook is boring and x is old
There is an easy way to combat bluesky's rise. Stop giving in to the racists, mysoginists, homophobes, transphobes and especially that fat tub of lard currently in the white house.
If Elon wanted to do that, he wouldn't have spent $44B buying Twitter.
I really started liking this platform. Has great potential!
This is because people actually enjoy using #BlueSky and are actively engaged on the platform Over 32 million ACTIVELY ENGAGED users #x may have 300 mil users, but over 90% are bots and not actual logged in engaged users Also, #BlueSky proves that people LIKE moderated platforms free of bullies
Ah, that's so sad😱
Fuck X. Fuck Elon. Fuck Trump. Fuck MAGA. Fuck Republicans and fuck the horse they all rid on.
It was a Trojan horse.
No. The Trojan horse was the dem party that helped build up the fascist state by expanding the buget for police, by making it legal to carry out extrajudicial execution on US citizens by declaring them to be terrorists without a trial or jury.
Obama preformed the latter and Biden preformed the former. Which is especially egregious as it was just after the BLM protests/riots.
Both parties have been gatekeeping for their paymasters and pushing us farther and farther towards fascism and the betrayal of the Dems is especially egregious. Absolutely.
Is it still a Trojan horse if it had "definitely not Trojans who plan to destroy your lives and take all your shit" on the side and the people pulling it in said "well they won't kill ME or steal MY shit"? Seems to buck the whole "not obviously bad guys" part of the story.
Oh I thought they like it when the free market decides.
Only when it decides in their favor, of course.
"No way to combat it"? Like maybe not being a total douche and yanking the wheel hard as possible to the right on your business model? Maybe don't fill your platform with bots, trolls, and scammers? Sure there's nothin ?
Good riddance to both those platforms.
Well they could try not being such dicks, but I guess that's unthinkable!
Oh, the NAZIs don’t like a real free speech platform, too bad!
I got banned from twittless for call musk a pedo. Now I'm working hard towards my Facebook ban.
Working hard for a Facebook ban? Really? I got regularly banned there and never even knew why
Lmaooo love it
I got banned so many times for fb and finally bailed when they said that I needed to verify my ID and asked for a driver's license. LMAO nope
Did they not also ask for your SSN?
I can't even remember because whatever it was they wanted was getting the absolutely the fuck not
FB asked me for that and somehow it went away. But there was no way to actually send that info. I was also banned because I posted someone claiming rape was okay by adding bad text to EG Carroll's picture--FB claimed it violated copyright (link didn't work to file an appeal.
LMAO the appeal!!! What a fucking joke that was - same thing. Just denied zero recourse like an HR department showing you the door. Cool cool cool fuck that
I was temporarily banned from Twitter because I said 'death by Snoo snoo'. Even after explaining it was a meme, they thought it was an actual death threat.
They had multi chances not to turn people away. They chose unwisely. For every action, there is a complete and opposite reaction called my choice.
Wah wah
Both companies are run by fascists who turned their platforms into bot and hate-riddled factories for fascist, bigoted propaganda. All for the sake of their own personal enrichment. The world should collectively abandon their shitty platforms.
good, I hope meta burns
Great if true - but cite a source. Otherwise…. You know.
What do you mean no way to combat the rise. Isn't mass banning and explicit support of fascist viewpoints working?
Womp womp
I thought X, InstaGram and Fakebook were all bots/Scams as of like 4+ years ago??
Good! I hope they go the way of MySpace!
Interesting that they are in a panic, when it is the way they’ve run their sites that has driven users away to BlueSky in the first quarter place. They gave us the middle finger and are now crying they want us back? GTFOH
I want to believe but I know that's not true
Oh please don't get my hopes up if it's not true.
Source?
Meta and X must die.
Source?
Awww, sucks to suck.
I'll just tune up the world's smallest violin
Have they tried not sucking
At this point, I must thank Zuckenberg for choosing to cater to imperialism and bigotry I would still be around facebook if not for him to show is true technocratic face :P
Oh well. The only thing I use Facebook for after just walking away a few weeks ago is legacy DMs because a few people I talk to have social media inertia, and I never used Twitter. It's pretty funny they don't want to lose revenue but also don't want to stop being toxic shitholes.
They could fight it by not being completely fucking terrible, but they seem to be REALLY into the suck right now
Have they tried not being bot filled trash pools of hate and aggression?
Well it is a superior product.
since when?💀
Chewy,we’re home.
Bluesky has the perfect blueprint as to not fuck up as well. It’s a slam dunk as long as they don’t cave to the same bad decisions ruined those platforms
Have they tried not being havens for Nazi scum?
I mean, their owners could try to be better version of themselves, and then maybe people would follow that 🤷🏽♀️. Maybe it's too simple? 🤔
Combating it is simple. Don’t suck.
i mean when your shitty apps are just a megaphone for natzis, the only people that are gonna be attracted to / endure it are.. well natzis 🤷♀️ -why would anyone else stay on a platform full of fascists that denounce your rights to exist or those close to you? elon kicked the chair from under himself
this time they can’t blam the chinese party OH POOR THEM NO FAKE ASS EXCUSE THIS TIME
Hmm, maybe not being run by a shithead would be a good start.
After Facebook deleted my account, which I've had for years, because I talked about illicit substances which I have always talked about, I hope they choke on it.
Well, they do have a way of controlling it, but apparently "Don't be Nazi trash" is too hard for some people 🫠
Especially after scammers have become more frequent on Twitter. They stole my Twitter account.
I told people I was leaving Twitter if Musk bought it. He did and I departed. He bought it for 44 Billion. It's estimated value today is sitting at 9.4 Billion. I just joined Bluesky, I don't know 3 or 4 weeks ago. I love the name. It immediately gives me a sense of happiness 😊 I hope more join.
Hmmm … I know how they can combat it. Do better to reduce misinformation, disinformation and lies.
U sure? Is there any data to back up that claim?
But it's old. So maybe now it's worse 🤞🏻
Yeah, Threads never really fly up. The real microbloging boss is Twitter.
⬅️ happy dance
No, they are yellow belly, turn coat, treasonous snake bastid, Russian assets. They can all get deported to Mars. Absolutely going to #boycott Meta, X and Amazon for life!
Goodbye both👍
With the death of net neutrality, I expect Elon and his nazi minions to eventually require ISPs to block Blue Sky.
The only way to combat it is to properly have decent moderation. Neither of those companies thinks that's a good idea because most of their base just like saying slurs and threatening people.
Expect bots to flood us soon.
It’s Facebook and Twitter, and always will be. I quit Twitter, and go on FB ~once a week, just to keep up with my smallish circle of RL friends and family. I’d quit FB if there was a Bluesky alternative, but there’s not. So most of my activity there is blocking various sponsored ads/accounts.
Buy BlueSky. Cheapest option rather than see Meta and X decline and with that share value and revenue. Trump would not block the takeover.
Yes, instead of getting better and addressing your core problems, just try and guy your way out of it. And the you can buy Bluesky2, Bluesky3, Bluesky4 etc. while your core products fails.
It's what Vanderbilt, Rockefeller, Carnegie, J. P. Morgan, and Ford. Buy out or overpower the competition, therefore ensuring they dominate the marketplace and therefore control the government in the background. It took the Sherman Anti-Trust Act in 1890 to break these monopolies like Standard Oil
Nope. Ford actually built things himself. He bought some competitors, but he was far more of an innovator than most. Vanderbilt et al worked on creating monopolies, bribing politiicans and caused all kinds of economic hardship for people. Why do you want that today? Seems pretty dim.
But he did not do a lot of innovating. Rather he bought out the fledgling innovators and if they did not sell because of his clout in the supply chain strangled them into insolvency by forcing suppliers either not to supply or sell components at inflated prices. That can never be allowed to return
Ford himself did indeed innovate a lot at the beginning of his career in both vehicles and in production lines.
Yes he did, but was ruthless with suppliers and choked them so competitors got their components at a dearer price causing financial stress to the competition they were bought out at bottom dollar. Visited the Ford museum in Detroit it was an eye-opener who they bought and put out of business.
Here's an idea; don't embrace fascism.
Lol, what? No one on X ever talks about Bluesky, ever. Whereas X is all people here ever talk about.
Americans, let shut down Mets and x permanently! Every true American…boycott them all! Tell everyone you know about BlueSky and encourage them to boycott Meta and all its social media platforms and X and Amazon, Walmart, Target, Fox television stations and every company that supports trump.
Let’s hope they don’t. “cancel” Bluey
I haven’t heard this? Can anyone share any source bc I would like to read about it
Personally, i don't think Zuck or Musk give a fuck.
Let them die.
Good. X in particular needs to die.