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Rev Dr Chris @chrisgoringe.bsky.social

Not sure what modern reading I’m superimposing - but I think I agree with everything else you just said 😀

aug 26, 2025, 11:31 am • 0 0

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Baby Boy Monaghan @babyboymonaghan.bsky.social

The idea that the gospels must be consistent. The best case here seems to be that they are preserving two traditions side-by-side, an older one of Davidic (or Priestly, depending on the Gospel), and a newer one of divine birth, without reconciling.

aug 26, 2025, 11:34 am • 1 0 • view
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Rev Dr Chris @chrisgoringe.bsky.social

Oh, I don’t think the gospels need to be consistent! OMG no! The tensions between the accounts is where the life is. My argument was much closer to what I think you said - if the gospel writers got things “wrong” (from the perspective of their tradition) it was for a reason (an agenda).

aug 26, 2025, 11:39 am • 1 0 • view
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Baby Boy Monaghan @babyboymonaghan.bsky.social

Gotcha. Yeah, I think we all mutually agree that the two genealogies were agendas driven, especially Matthew’s, which is almost a work of literature.

aug 26, 2025, 11:42 am • 1 0 • view
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Rev Dr Chris @chrisgoringe.bsky.social

And recognising that opens so many doors that remain closed if you spend your energy fighting to reconcile them!

aug 26, 2025, 11:55 am • 1 0 • view
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Baby Boy Monaghan @babyboymonaghan.bsky.social

If that’s not what you are arguing, I apologize, but the urge to claim that the gospels are univocal and without contraction seems baked into a lot of discourse

aug 26, 2025, 11:37 am • 1 0 • view
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Rev Dr Chris @chrisgoringe.bsky.social

Gotcha. Yes, it definitely is. But I have a doctorate in quantum mechanics, so I absolutely delight in seemingly irreconcilable accounts of reality.

aug 26, 2025, 11:40 am • 1 0 • view
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Baby Boy Monaghan @babyboymonaghan.bsky.social

* contradiction

aug 26, 2025, 11:37 am • 0 0 • view