Yeah you have the capacity, but do you have the will or desire? Seems like people like you really like to blame people who had no power for still having no power.
Yeah you have the capacity, but do you have the will or desire? Seems like people like you really like to blame people who had no power for still having no power.
Voting is power, actually, and when a prominent person announces they will cede that power because they don't feel personally catered to, yeah I am going to criticize her.
Yeah man keep blaming voters on an individual level for a national political party abandoning their own traditional bases of support. Thats not stupid or a recipe for perpetually losing at all.
She didn’t do that though. She said she won’t vote for a specific candidate for a specific reason. The solution to this is to find candidates that are actually middle grounds between the two sides of the Dem party. That means more people need to make clear what won’t be accepted in a candidate.
Every time this comes up, people act like leftists are all out here completely refusing to vote (yes, there are some. No, it’s not most of us). This tends to escalate the rhetoric because it’s fucking exhausting that total compliance seems to be the only acceptable response.
Many of us have already been actively voting against our own best interests in every election we’ve participated in, yet we still get lectured about the need to compromise.
It’s wild because often times, a lot of Dem voters are doing the same thing, as the core of the party is too conservative and corporate oriented. They get away with it because voters have spent decades saying, “well, look at the alternative!”
We can’t keep playing these games. The point of posts like this is to apply pressure to politicians to shift stances and to communicate to others what your basic expectations are. The biggest obstacle to this tactic is these arguments. We need to work together and communicate.
The key there is communicate. Working together can’t just be one group of people shutting up. Most of us aren’t unwilling to compromise. I think capitalism is a destructive system that will ultimately kill us all, yet I’ve been over here voting for pro-capitalist candidates.
We want to see a reasonable effort to bridge the gap though. Actual compromise. If other Dem voters would help us apply pressure to the party instead of fighting us, we could do this. The party itself can only resist so much pressure for so long.
And let me add, shit like this is the reason we’re getting so vocal. Yes, this instance is about Labour, but we’ve seen Dem party stances regress as well. We no longer believe that the party will continue to fight for us.
We believe we’ll be abandoned once we’re no longer needed for the win, because who will care to defend us? How are we meant to trust we’ll be safe when we’re already being shouted down?