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Reinforcement of state authority: The ultimate outcome would likely be a strong legal and political affirmation of the state's authority over election administration, confirming that the president cannot seize control of ballots.
Electoral legitimacy crisis: Such an action would cause a severe crisis of legitimacy, potentially plunging the country into political chaos and threatening the peaceful transfer of power.
Criminal investigation: Federal and state criminal investigations would be launched into anyone who conspired to unlawfully seize ballots.
Political and legal fallout: Impeachment proceedings: A president attempting to seize ballots would likely face immediate impeachment proceedings in Congress for abuse of power.
Confrontation avoided: A direct armed confrontation between state and federal forces would likely be avoided due to the immediate judicial intervention and the refusal of federal agencies to participate.
Many federal officials have institutional experience upholding the law and would not participate in such a direct and unconstitutional assault on the election process.
Refusal to comply: It is highly likely that federal agencies, including the DOJ and the Department of Homeland Security, would refuse to carry out such an unlawful order.
State lawsuits: State officials and the state Attorney General would immediately file lawsuits in federal court to block the president's order. They would argue that the president is exceeding his authority and that the state has sovereign control over the administration of elections.
Many federal officials have institutional experience upholding the law and would not participate in such a direct and unconstitutional assault on the election process.
Any DOJ official who followed such an unlawful order would be subject to court challenges and potential legal jeopardy.
Prosecutorial powers: While a president can direct the Department of Justice (DOJ), the DOJ's authority is limited to enforcing existing federal law. Seizing lawfully cast ballots from state control is not a federal power.
Any federalized Guard members would likely refuse the order, or it would be challenged and blocked by the courts.
Federalization of the National Guard: The president can federalize a state's National Guard under very limited circumstances, typically to enforce federal law when a state is unable. A presidential order to seize ballots, however, would have no legal basis.
No unilateral power: The Constitution does not grant the president unilateral power to regulate or seize ballots. In the past, presidential attempts to direct federal agencies to seize voting machines were blocked by institutional checks, including officials within the Department of Justice.
State law enforcement and National Guard: A governor's order to use state, county, and city law enforcement, along with the state's National Guard, to protect ballots is a legal exercise of their constitutional authority. The National Guard is under the governor's command in its state duty status.
Decentralized system: The U.S. Constitution gives states primary authority over the "Times, Places, and Manner" of holding elections. This decentralized structure places the responsibility for election administration, including the safeguarding of ballots, on state and local officials.
A president's attempt to seize ballots would be seen as an unconstitutional overreach of power.
A conflict between a state governor's orders to protect ballots and a president's attempt to seize them would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis with several possible outcomes. State authority over elections is established by the Constitution, but federal law also sets standards.
If the Govenor Of A State Orders State, County & City Law Enforcement with reserves to protect Ballots at election time and the President attempts to take ballots what would be the outcome?
Civilian resistance: In addition to court action, election officials and the public would likely resist the federal action, leading to civil unrest and a complete breakdown of trust in the electoral process.
The president's lawyers would likely try to justify the action under a broad, aggressive interpretation of presidential powers, though such a position would have little historical or legal precedent.
The state would argue that the president has no constitutional or statutory authority to interfere with state-run elections and that the order violates the Posse Comitatus Act.
Court intervention: The governor would immediately file a lawsuit seeking an injunction to stop the president's order. The courts, not military force, would be the ultimate arbiter of the dispute.
A constitutional crisis: The country would face a constitutional crisis pitting a president's order against a governor's authority, triggering immediate legal challenges and widespread condemnation.
Election interference laws: Multiple federal statutes criminalize military officers and federal employees from interfering with elections, including placing armed troops at polling places. Any officer who followed such an order would risk prosecution.
Posse Comitatus Act: This law generally prohibits the use of federal military forces to enforce domestic laws. The president's order to seize ballots, a function of civilian law enforcement and election administration, would be a clear violation of this act.
However, an order to seize ballots would be of dubious legality and would be challenged immediately.
The clash: In a head-to-head confrontation, federalized National Guard or active-duty troops under the president's command would likely have superior legal standing over state-controlled Guard units to execute a valid federal order.
The president's order: If the president orders federal troops (e.g., active-duty military) to seize ballots, those troops must obey the president, their commander-in-chief.
Federal authority: Congress has the power to "make or alter" state regulations for federal elections. While federal law and agencies can set standards, the president has no constitutional power to unilaterally seize ballots or otherwise interfere with election administration.
A governor deploying the National Guard to protect ballots would be seen as an exercise of this state authority.
State authority: The U.S. Constitution gives state legislatures primary responsibility for determining the "Times, Places, and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives". States administer elections, from voter registration to certifying results.
If a president ordered federal troops to take ballots and a governor used the National Guard to stop them, the outcome would be a major constitutional crisis with no easy resolution. This scenario would represent a dangerous breach of the democratic process.
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It is time to fight back! With NATIONAL BOYCOTTS against all that is TRUMP & MAGA. Join Or Die! I am Sam Culper!
It is time to stop the "GLAD-HANDING"..... Trump is not an American President. He is a SELF SEEKING Confederate.
I believe MEDIA IS CONFUSED. The National Guard deployment is a primary excersize to take action in the future in what MAGA believes to be voter fraud in elections. A CRIME. First taking the casted votes, taking the boxes and finally your democracy. A blindman on a blind horse could see it clearly.
I have come to this conclusion......
Trump is doubling down on creating a state of fear and unknowing of the future. It appears that critics such as Stephen Colbert are being systematically silenced. It is coming of the time to pay attention to the unsettled waters. Hitler created a state of fear please compare....
Now we see.... Trump is accused of being on Epstein's List and magically we are given information that there never was a list....So that means all the women involved in the never exsisted list have now recieved hush money? Just sayin'?
JD Vance as of now has no future opportunity in American Politics. He voted the 51 for the Big Billionaire Money Grab. As we progress politically with MAGA the toll of financial impact will further repress the American Financial System. And his VP position will suffer greatly from the unfortunates.
Just watching all the media on the Immigration round up. And I now believe that they are using SNITCHES. Just like the GESTAPO did in Nazi Germany. The snitches were paid by the Gestapo and the public called them RAT catchers... In America.... How sad....
Under this flag, this first Flag of Rebellion we were born of Progessive Thinking, Chance and Risk.... So considering that Trump is driving us towards a Collision we have nothing to lose... Join Or Die!
So with the Trump presidency anything is possible including a massive collision against a brick wall. Lacking progessive thinking Trump is a accident looking for a concrete pad...
You ask Cheeseballers? The Cheeseballers also known as Yell'ar's. They were the ruffian voters that elected Andrew Jackson to the Presidency. Jackson at his inauguration brought in a huge Cheeseball for his followers to eat.
I know it is difficult to sidestep the sensationalism so involved into the Trump Goverment and the addictive behaviors of press and others..... But we have to do our best in analysis of all media and actions by these Cheeseballers involved with our Democracy...
So I have a different view today of the Presidents political activities... A friend posted, "this is where the Trump Government is headed..."
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More marred legal/illegal arrests. In our communities we are being "groomed" to accept this form of detainment and arrest. Just like Nazi Germany....
More marred legal/illegal arrests. In our communities we are being "groomed" to accept this form of detainment and arrest. Just like Nazi Germany....
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Make note they twisted the handcuffs. If you have ever been cuffed that way you know what I am saying..
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A Great GrandNephew Of Benjamin Franklin says this Flag Fly's for US Senator Alex Padilla today. Quedarse gratis!
If men make war in slavish obedience to rules, they will fail. Ulysses S. Grant
(“I very much want to work with him, but cannot understand one simple TRUTH — Why is America subsidizing Canada by $200 Billion Dollars a year, in addition to giving them FREE Military Protection, and many other things?” Supposedly Pres. Trump. I suspect it is Donald Jr or Eric...Bullpucky...
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Now today we have a President whom is a dastard of wrought principle. Offering feeble minded excuses and baneful abandonment of American belief and spiritual political truths.
John Adams by his defense of individuals whom were a occupying military and his effort found unpopular, he creates the spiritual element of DUE PROCESS. Even by the dislike for his actions from brother Sam Adams.
Six soldiers were acquitted, while two were convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to thumb-branding. Adams later reflected that it was one of the most important services he ever rendered to his country. Arguing that it upheld the principles of justice and the right to a fair trial.
John Adams a Revolutionary and future President takes on the defense of the British Soldiers whom fired on the civilian's. Adams believed in the right to a fair trial for everyone and took on the case, even though it was unpopular and risked his reputation.
he Boston Massacre, a pivotal event in the lead-up to the American Revolution, occurred on March 5, 1770, when British soldiers fired upon a crowd of colonists, killing five and wounding several others. The incident, sparked by escalating tensions between colonists and British troops.
We the People are waiting for our frontline government leaders to rise as Soldiers. Against the transgressions of our Constitution and the basic guaraunteed Right's of our Free American Society. Golden America is covered in Green Oxidation chasing empty chambers of a twisted mind. I Am Sam Culper
fb.watch/yErP5EmP4F/ A interesting recall of history, the old story..
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fb.watch/yDWtE_AE4X/ Melanie Stansbury gives the low down on the Upper Crustry. Trumps political strategy is "get more money". For himself and collaborators. And it is obvious that the wealthiest benefit and we the authnetic Americans get a 64th of the pie in the trickle-down economics.
And as always "things be changing".....
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To expand on the recent media blitz! It is interesting to look at the Macro of the incident. For we see as Elon Musk and Trump are carrying out the down sizing of our goverment.....Secretary Pete Hegseth is expanding the issuance of sensitive information into the civilian population.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culper_... It appears my namesake was effective against The Kings spies in the fight for our democracy. I would say they had that ability to keep all information extremely secret in such a way that only one source was the communications vehicle to General George Washington.
Right on point!
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And now the ball of wax begins to unravel....
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So what if Bafflegabbing became the national term to describe all and everything Trump says? ex. "I heard the President this morning and he was baffle-gabbing again". That would challenge Trumps validity. I am Sam Culper
So the 49th Parallel was not an individual drawing a line with a ruler across a map. As Trump leads his point. My view here is this is how Trump injects baffle-gabbing (nonsense, intent to confuse) into his activities to mis-lead individuals into simplifying his intent and passive threats.
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OH NO NOT DONALD AGAIN!
