Let the weirdo print his shit in peace. Why are so many people cheering this on? I remember when the internet would ask for a copy so they could print it too.
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Let the weirdo print his shit in peace. Why are so many people cheering this on? I remember when the internet would ask for a copy so they could print it too.
You lol. A reference to it having Peter Sellers
Nobody tell him 🤫
Justin Herbert has AURA????
Nothing is wrong with her, and her journalism is good. People jumping on a hate bandwagon based on rumors and out of context screencaps. Recently a liberal "influencer incubator" decided that she was a good target to test their reach on.
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He's alive. This fucking SUCKS.
Imagine what we could do with an actual federal jobs program where we could raise people from poverty for work like this without the pretense of making them lethal warfighters and promise them a free college education after fulfilling years of service.
Where were you when blue sky felt it happen like a disturbance in the force
Some people are saying it happened
They are controlled by Chorus. That is what it means to sign a contract. It is an exchange of your autonomy to another party in exchange for something. That is what it means to sign a contract.
They are all part of the same organization and at risk of taking damage to their reputation. It is in their best interest to lie. I am taking that into account. Unless they take an official stance and ask for retractions, their words are only deflections.
There is no proof that she lied anywhere in the article. Again, editorial standards. You aren't even getting paid, yet you want these creators to be controlled get a grip.
These "creators" are also white women and white men, and they are funded by billionaires and an organization with a vested interest in using these small creators and then discarding them when they no longer meet their needs. Thats why the contract says what it says.
Victims?? These people aren't victims they are a subject of an article. And they dont have to put out signed contracts, they can release an unsigned copy. But they won't. And the pieces that are out there say exactly what the article says.
The breach does not matter if the provision of the contract is not excersized. In this case, not excersizing the provision *helps* chorus. And Taylor did read the whole contract and so dide the Wired editorial board and legal counsel. And of course they have a unified message, they work together!
No one from chorus has come out and says the contracts dont say that, have you noticed? They all attack Taylor, and not Wired. Because they know Wired has the contract.
Yes, man. As soon as someone steps out of line, you can excersize those provisions and get rid of those people. That's how it works as a tool for obedience and it is why theyre like, but dont look at that, were cool! Chorus has the contract, and they can release it if it is not what it says.
Their content hasn't changed *yet, just because things are one way now, doesnt mean it will always be. You have to go back to the contract. Just because people say, this isn't enforced now, doesnt mean that will always be the case. The contract is the reality.
If she is slandered these people why haven't they asked for a retraction? Nothing in the Wired article is incorrect. It was approved by their editorial board and authorized by the lawyers. Just because some people disclosed it doesnt mean they all did. And again it's all in the contract.
Did they? I dont think anyone had heard of chorus before this article broke. And if so, why does the contract specifically state that they cant do these things that you say they can do?
What WAS 9/11 about? Oh! Right! AMERICAN COLONIZATION OF THE MIDDLE EAST. Next do the Holocaust, were the Jews colonizing Germany?
Good thing atrocities have never been committed by Christians. Could you imagine?
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You. Can. Read. Her. Content. You can derive her viewpoints from first principles. Somehow, your gut is the arbiter of true intentions? You didn't even screen cap that shit yourself, you took from another thread from another creator who gave you your opinion.
I'm literally telling you to literally read what she writes. Its free and well researched. You, on the other hand are shit-flinging drama threads. Why are you proud in your ignorance?
Yes, a tweet screenshot out of context is the real her and long-form pieces she puts out just don't exist. You're the one posting vibes!
Jesus fucking christ man. She's not my friend, check your energy at the door. She literally writes articles about her viewpoints. Its in the public record.
I think the stuff she actually writes and puts out carries more weight than hearsay from some random on the internet. And if she is secretly all that, I'll stop supporting her work whenever that becomes reflected in the output.
He immediately torpedoes any authenticity these creators may have had and shows that they have minimal qualms against being controlled in exchange for money. He is too quick to commodify trust, and you can tell by how he talks about it. It's a tool and the substance doesnt matter.
I watched the first chunk. Congrats on going out and doing some work and interviewing him. Interesting idea. Unfortunately, he flubbed the execution and decided to micromanage his targeted creators and felt the need to require anonymity.
Yes, "the left" elected Trump. Good point. How could I have been so blind. Keep coping, man. No amount of blaming the left is going to fix the record unpopularity the Democrats are facing. They did this to themselves, and you are too captured to realize it.
Said in response to someone on the left telling her to stop complaining about covid individualism as an immunocompromised person and that natural selection should take care of her problem anyway. A clearly Nazi and eugenecist statement.
Yes the most bad faith reading of what she said. She said even Nazi's know you have to present a sympathetic face if you want to bring people into your movement. A statement that is correct and something the left needs to work on.
These aren't donations. Donations do not come with strings attached. This is a funded infiltration designed in the best interest of a group with large amounts of money. You want to fight facism, yet here you are licking the boot because it is blue.
Lorenz is further left than the people who are getting paid! She is more left than the dems! Further left on Gaza, on ICE, Immigration, Covid, mass surveilance, on and on.
And here you are scrambling for an excuse for someone who didn't even want to tell you who they are? We should just let the online personalities endanger themselves instead if thats what you think is happening. Be real, this money is to support the ruling class who is hedging against the midterms.
A group who will exchange something they have (money) for something they dont have (legitimacy.) A legitimacy that they can not earn with a clear statement of intent. This is someone powerful who knows they need to launder a message. Otherwise, it would be unpopular. Thats the issue.
This is not ratfucking. Why would you want the people in your movement to be beholden to an unknown group with unknown motivations? A group that has specifically asked for their anonymity as a requirement for the arrangement.
Who is the "We" building the media ecosystem in this case? Do you believe them to be motivated by altruism or perhaps a group with this much money has other motivations? Do we gain anything by them requiring anonymity? What if they are the same people donating to Republicans?
Do people not realize that this dark money is motivated based on class? These are the same people who donate to Republicans and are looking to hedge against a Democratic showing in the primaries. They are not altruistic! They are infiltrating! Please think instead of having peasant-brain!
Semi-leftist? She is anti-ICE, anti-Trump, anti-surveilance, anti-covid-denialism, like I've seen nothing but good things from her.
So we should attack these people for taking money from the genocidal and fascist American capitalist class to help crush democracy.
Because this isn't "Democratic money," this is ruling class dark money. The same people who fund Republicans are funding this to make sure the opposition is polite and keeps their goals close enough to the status quo so that the broke stay desperate and the line goes up.
This money isn't altruistic. Do you think the groups who can afford to do this and make sure their names aren't published have the wellbeing of the country in mind? Of course not, this is a hedge against the midterms to make sure those benefiting from Trump now can keep their thumbs on the scale.
I have to think the people who think this is a good thing or 'leveling the playing field' have to be bots. How are you going to let the powerful bribe you with $8000 and you are not the person even getting it!
By groups whose best interests are in direct opposition to mine looking to highjack and wreck momentum in the meantime. These dark money groups are not comprised of people with altruistic goals.
Those things are getting plenty of run time on many outlets and barring a major shift in capitalists' motivations will amount to nothing until the midterms. In the meantime, I would like to know if the people who call themselves "influencers" who seemingly are on my side are being paid
Its insane! Like what class interest do people think dark money groups have at heart?? This is just a hedge against the midterms by the people who dont have any problems keeping poor people just close enough to be easily able to feed them into the market woodchipper.
We absolutely do not need more dark money groups. We need the Democrats to actually stand for something. Whose interests do you think dark money groups have at heart? It's not the working class's. I can tell you that.
Don't you think that if their policy goals were admirable that they would be proud to put their name on it? This isn't Democracy just a different flavor of corruption.
Aren't you at least a bit curious about where this inherent shame that Democrats feel when promoting their own causes comes from? If their policies weren't trying to only help their donors, maybe they would be less reluctant to put their name on things.
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Today is a perfect day to go out and burn the American flag. It's an even better day to release the Epstein Files.
You cannot appeal to Latinos on identity lines because they dont see themselves as "Latinos." But they understand inequality and they know what it feels like to bust your ass and be in a worse position than where you started
I said before the election. Both sides bragged about how hard they would deport Latinos. Maga was the side that said things were too expensive, Dems said the economy was in a good place to try to defend Biden's record. Latinos are not a monolith but many are united by being working class.
The thing you are missing is that before this second Trumo administration, if you were a Latino both Dems and Republicans have abused you over and over. Thats why only now his favorabiloty is dropping. People will vote for whoever benefits them the most, and only one side pretnded to care about them
What did Biden do for people? What does a working class family have to show for Biden?
And it's easy to say people should get educated, but after being packed into ghettos and having school funding cut over and over, and then making it out only to have to staying alive? Next to impossible. If Dems helped the working class, Latinos would vote for them.
No man, not even fix all, anything! A crumb of help would be better than what we got under Biden. There is so much dysfunction that you can not hand wave it all away. The last good thing Dems did for Latinos happened with the ACA, a whole generation ago.
Are the Latinos who are voting in any danger of getting deported?
Obvious if you follow the news and have a good education. An extremely large population of people are completely ignorant to politics, and I would even say majority. That's the same for Latinos. Factor in the limited amount of news that gets put out in spanish and a history of bipartisan abuse?
Why would Latinos get deported, lets start there? Or do you believe we are all invaders?
Look at my fucking allies dawg 😠"their own way of life" jfc "they dont know they won't be welcomed at the table." Yeah we dont know that, as if comments like this couldn't make it any more obvious.
Damn, your racism is showing. What a great ally you are 🙄
Easy to say that now after the election, but Latinos who care about this sort of thing have been abused by both Democrats and Republicans equally. Around the time of the election, only one side paid them even the minimum amount of lip service. Amd even then, Latinos are not a monolith!
You have no idea what you are talking about. Do you think all Latinos are illegal immigrants? Do you think the illegal ones can vote? Do you think a history of abuse under both types of administrations makes it difficult to care about who is in power?
Tell me you dont understand Latino populations without telling me. There is no Latino monolith, and just because a lot of them are brown doesnt mean that they all care about the same thing. If Democrats want Latino votes, they need to focus on the working class.
Fantasy fiction - The Suneater Series by Christopher Ruocchio. A bunch of them were free on spotify/audible for the longest time. First book is called Empire of Silence.
Yeah, you should examine someone's actual positions as opposed to making judgment calls based on an out of context screencap. Thats the opposite of hero worship, you should value those who support your cause up until they longer do. TL supports my causes.
I feel like you two are having completely different conversations. Either that or one of us has carbon monoxide poisoning.
Yes, advocating for nazis by presenting themselves as nice people.
The nazi's have built an effective political machine and the progressive left has been repeatedly shoved in a locker. There are lessons to be learned if the most openly despicable people keep dunking on us.
Being nice when you are engaging in advocacy is not lovebombing.
Okay, so academic funding will keep getting cut, ICE will keep cracking down, the poor will get poorer, Israel will keep committing a genocide, and fascism will knock down domino after domino looking for the next out group to cut down to remain in power. Thats what nebulous lines you wont cross buys
Emulating their methods is not emulating their message. Otherwise you would just be a Nazi. She was at a Trump rally covering it as a reporter and happens to be a white woman.
That did not happen by accident. Someone did that shit.
Why not? Have you seen a more metoric rise to power that white nationalism since Trump? I was in Highschool during Obama and the Republicans were laughingstocks. Now they are rewriting the entire country.
Who amongst us, many such cases, etc. etc.
You are taking a selfish position and centering her argument around a person you have already decided not to like. Do you believe the left is in a winning position, that they are doing everything they can to win power? The left needs to fix themselves because they are losing.
Yeah she's a reporter and she was at a trump rally, I believe. If you really mean it, they sell tickets to those things.
I have. She publishes writing and video segments. I've seen what she has to say, I think she's right a lot of the time, and I signal boost when I can. She's not a celebrity, the reason why I'm going to bat is because I think she does good work.
Because it is an effective tool to use when you are trying to build social movements. Cults are not the only organizations that need to get their point across, and by and large, not being an antisocial weirdo is considered a good strategy to meet that objective.
This is the purity tests that the left claims they need to stop doing. Go through her feed and see if you dont agree with her 9 times out of 10 and the re-examine if dunking on her for likes is the best thing to do to someone who could be a good ally
If you believe a progressive ideology is more virtuous than a nazi ideology, yet the Nazi's are outrecruiting people, would the methods of recruitment not be the first place you examine?
Lmao, far from it, buddy. But by all means, bury your head and double down. You wouldnt want to be wrong on the internet, think of the embarrassment.
Yes, she's on this site if you want to see what she talks about. Genocide in Gaza and Biden's shortcomings, anti-ICE coverage from the LA protests, current republican and dem attempts to pass surveillance laws. She puts out good stuff.
She literally said that in her post. She said the reason they do it is to recruit people. She is saying that the left needs to do a better job of being personable in person and she is right.
So someone on the left said that natural selection would weed her and other immunocompromised people out, and she said that if they want to reach more people they have to have better social skills because the Nazi's are outrecruiting them. I think she is right, don't you?
And recently her privacy and child internet protection laws. Everything Ive seen from her is researched well and critiques liberals and Republican fascists from the correct framing.
No, but I've seen her Gaza coverage, her post-covid Biden critiques, marching against ICE in LA before No Kings was a thing. This was clearly a take, but it was grounded in her observations at a group of people who were holding eugenics-adjacent beliefs. She doesnt deserve the smoke imo
Just cause she said something you dont like doesn't make her a liberal. People are out here seething to dunk on people when they're only 99% ideologically aligned instead of 100%
Said the most unserious person ever. If the Democrats are who you say the are their approval rating wouldn't be lower than getting your dick ripped off by a gorilla. As of now, it's about neck and neck, but I have faith in the gorilla.
Yes, invisible small group speaking that doesn't disrupt too much and to protect the government institutions. Real policies to help Americans. Just enough to cover their asses.
Did you read the article? These are "liberal groups" and PACs. No Democratic leaders are showing up to these, they aren't providing cover to people who want to take off work, they aren't taking a stand against police violence at these things amd marching side by side. They are asleep at the wheel.
Because they didn't really try. If you want proof, they dont even advocate for these policies! That's why Republicans have success, they shape discourse and dems let them do it. So any time a beneficial policy comes up, R's shame D's and they run scared tail tucked between their legs.
If they dont go out looking for cards, they're never going to have cards. The easiest thing they can do is call for protests and boycotts. Organize outside the chambers of congress, but they dont, and for that reason, they come off (rightfully) as fake.
Forgive student loan debt, amnesty for illegal immigrants with a clear path for citizenship, reliable public transportation, increasing minimum wage, universal Healthcare, dissolving monopolies, I can keep going. Any of these would be a good start.
As someone who was recently diagnosed with depression, that is a lot of what I was going through. It may be worth considering. Medication doesnt fix everything, but I feel good leaving my house and doing things I've always liked doing.