andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Wow, a really important contribution to the discussion.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Wow, a really important contribution to the discussion.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
No, it's not. Have you read the details. Clearly not. Take a blood pressure tablet and sit down.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Still inviting reform to your events?
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Is this the same Clough that took Forest down?
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Good.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
We did beat Burnley.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Once again, you are proving my point. This is boring, so I'm blocking you now.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
You demonstrate very clearly the impact that the news media's distortions have.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Everton?
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Despite 3 enquiries???
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
So we didn't need a striker. What meds are you on???
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
So, if Starmer did fight back, which news outlet would feature it. I suspect that the main problem is with the press who give faridge his headlines, and social media sites that allow outright lies and falsehoods.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
You always had more chance than most, but Arsenal don't do trophies anymore.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Nobody cares, they won't win it. Again.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
This is not news.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Not too sure where he agreed with israeli bombing, and unfortunately trump is just there. Mad as a box of frogs, but picking arguments with him will not make him go away.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Probably because if you leave it a few weeks, faridge will pick his own policy apart and then swear it never existed.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
So, who has stood up and explained why his plan is an impractical joke? Perhaps this is more productive than trying to dictate to right wing broadcasters who they should interview. We still have free speech even if we talk bollocks.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Imagine how his wife feels!
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Is he a member of the human race?
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Not the sharpest knife in the box, is he.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Is this the same unite inviting reform politicians to their events?
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
I'm a bit unclear what the political persuasion of a sex criminal has to do with anything. The fact that the BBC no longer do their job is absolutely correct, but are we going to insist on the political persuasion of every paedophile? Seriously?
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Nothing to do with the Tory enablers who are up faridges arse, or tok tok and facebook who allow facists to comment on their platforms.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Not too sure how much more guidance you are looking for. Tommy ten names has been locked up how many times? The wife of a tory councillor has been locked up for racial abuse. I suggest you direct your anger towards social media and reform who actually promote and allow this sort of shite.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Maybe she meant deep steak.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
I don't understand. How is it possible to slur Robert Jenrick. Firstly, he is an odious little turd. Secondly, he wouldn't understand any slur.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
None of this is news, so what' your point?
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
That's the Lords attempting to change the bill, not labour watering it down.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Bit harsh on anal pus
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
No surprise then.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
The outcome is irrelevant. You will still believe what you believe, no matter what. It needs to be cleared out, and so do the people involved. If not, it will affect independence.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
It's GBeebies.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Misogyny did exist and was put to use daily.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
So, there is no workers' rights bill going through parliament. None so blind as those who will not see.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
That isn't what the headline says.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
And the other 66% can't spell it.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
No, it isn't.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Bit of a quandry here. I have Rolex (Benidorm beach. Very nice man from possibly Senegal?) Can I risk my Rolex in Clacton.(as close to London as I want to go.) Seems to have elected a lying spiv to parliament.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Go away.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
No, it isn't. Try construction.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Whilst I wouldn't give the israelis a penny, probably the biggest Israeli enablers are hamas whose actions have given the Israeli government the excuse it has been looking for years.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
No, dear, it's not called Liebour at all. A bit rich bearing your two past leader's scams and MPs claiming for non-existent rail fares. I suggest you grow up and start thinking of solutions to the issues an independent Scotland will have to solve. Love independence, Can't do with idiots.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
You need to get out more.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
The brexit campaign normalised racism.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
You are right, Blunkett is blind. Diane is not. She is an extremely intelligent woman who is certainly not blind as to what she is doing
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Of course you are, but if you want to replace a voting system, you can't just say "anything will do". You have now stated your preference, which is fine. Not too keen on Party List myself (the clue is in the title). Under this, the MP is not my MP, but the Party's MP.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
So, to paraphrase, you don't know what sort of PR you want.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
What sort of pr?
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
I'm saying that I have always been labour, and looking at the alternatives, I will probably stay thay way.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
So, having had access to, and probably using, labour party resources to get elected, is he now going to refund the people who worked hard to get him elected.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
This is a waste of a petition. Most, if not all, will be reinstated quietly before Parliament returns.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
If you think that, you misunderstand the system we have.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
An interesting tale but full of half truths and spin. Sorry but he couldn't lead a dog for a walk. He left the tories with a huge majority, and the Labour Party a mess, even allowing antisemites and racist to run amok. Sorry, I'm out of patience now. Blocked.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
I have a lot of respect for Corbyn as a man, but as a party leader, he was a disaster. He managed to allow people to see labour as antisemitic and did not fight hard enough against brexit. Sorry, but here, I have to disagree with you.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Which is why they have been forced into 2 u turns. A hung parliament that will inevitably lead to coalition. How did that turn out? From the sound of it, neither of us are happy at the moment. We disagree on how to change things, and I will not risk the tories or reform.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Cohorts? Do you mean like Rayner? Sounds a bit Maoist, or Stalinist. How do you deal with people who don't agree with your take on Labour.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Which is good, but my choice was to get rid of the tories first, which voting for another party would not have done. Incidentally, i have been a socialist for over 50 years, but I have learnt that there is no shortcut to real equality.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
The fact that you appeared to have forgotten how we got into the current mess and appeared to blame it all on labour gave that impression Yes, I did vote labour to get the tories out, and no, I don't like everything they have done, but I'm not part of a mob. And what was your solution again?
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
So, under the current voting system, which alternative do you prefer? Are we not better trying to change things from the inside and perhaps even accept that there is no such thing as perfection? That's realism.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Sorry, it stopped being a debate when you called me brain dead and accused me of being a racist. I suggest you sit down in a nice quiet room. If you want a debate, you need to calm down.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Incidentally, is this the 5 minute argument or the full half hour?
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
No, you are just a thick prick. If some is abusive to me, I'll give it back. You were the one who raised immigrants, and now antisemitism. And which "lot" am I? Perhaps the lot that can think and not throw around baseless accusations. I suggest you take your tablets and go for a nice lie down.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Hope you are right that it's that simple. I suspect not.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Have you been at the sherry? It's a real shame that abusive morons like you disgrace us all. Immigrants? You racist piece of shit.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
So, where have you been for the last 14 years? None of this happened under the Tories? I think you have woken up a bit late. Who are you suggesting as an alternative government? Reform, perhaps?
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
No, we really don't. I assume you were out of the country for 14 years.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Simple again! Leave her alone, and she'll go away.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Why is Scotland v England all the time. Surely Scotland and England together as independent nations would be preferable to the constant "we're better than you" debate.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Unfair to turds!
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Seditious creatures, cats.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Sorry, it may have been founded by the workers, but it is here to government the whole country. I assume you prefer the Tory approach who would be all for taking away the right to strike completely.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
And those were his high points.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Oh, what irony. Chris Philp describes someone else as clueless.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Bit like nige then.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Not sure one million is what they're after. What about the same old dear in her £10 million detached hovel?
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
it does. The Krays were clearly criminals but were not terrorist. They were locked up. Palestine Action are probably the same. And may well be locked up. Being obtuse is not clever, it's just annoying. Boed now. Blocked.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Try reading the previous post to mine. It helps.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Are you seriously comparing the two???
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
The same could be said of the Krays.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
A shame.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
That's a shame for both you and Labour.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
So you don't want anyone to even attempt to fix the problem because a) it might affect you, and b) Mistakes were made. Tell you what, let's do nothing and watch it rot.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Not the IEA again! Ffs
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Stop talking rubbish.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Wow! I would think the tories would be grateful.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
So, what types of protests are unacceptable in peacetime. You surely can't be arguing that anything goes? Rioting, assassination? My only point is that this particular protest was inappropriate for the time and was bound to provoke a response. Maybe that was the purpose.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Not sure what you are sceptical about. The plan is there, if you bother to read it, and steps are in progress, bt you can't say abracadabra and I million houses will appear overnight.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Do you mean the plans for NHS, housing, and workers' rights? Which one of these is a disaster. After 14 years of the Tories, it's going to take a miracle, a probably a few mistakes to get us back to where we were in 2010.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
You don't know the cause of the tears.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
I support Amnesty 99 times out of a hundred, but I'm not sure about this one. To enter a military base and vandalise equipment at a time of international tension? Surely, the authorities must give out a sign that this is foolish and potentially dangerous. There are better ways to protest.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Not too sure how cruel it is to allow fathers to spend time with their kids.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
From your language, I assume you are neutral. With your own government and parliament, in what sense are you subjugated? You clearly don't care about evidence.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
An assertion that is not verifiable. I'm not the one making the bold statements, so I have nothing to prove.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
I think you will find that most of this is verifiable but is not posted by an organisation with verifiable links to Scottish independence, which, as I have said, I don't have an issue with.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Can I be clear, I have nothing against Scottish independence. Indeed, my wife is Scottish, and I may well end up living there, but please make sure that facts are facts and not a slanted version of one side's "facts". This is what killed the vote last time.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Perhaps you should use better evidence than a poster produced by a Scottish independence group.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Interesting, bearing in mind that all this is covered by the West Lothian rules.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
But, my understanding is that english mps cannot vote on matters devolved to Scotland, Wales, and NI, but Scottish and welsh mps can vote on matters that solely affect england.
andyb27457.bsky.social (@andyb27457.bsky.social) reply parent
Oh dear.