So now you guys understand the real dangers of government involvement in healthcare, and advocate getting the state out of this area of the economy? Right?
So now you guys understand the real dangers of government involvement in healthcare, and advocate getting the state out of this area of the economy? Right?
But all of Trump’s craziness aside, you guys understand why the Fed is unconstitutional, and advocate getting government out of the economy? Right?
I think you’re getting it backwards.
Labor day is an attack on economic freedom. It is a celebration of anti-capitalists. I think you guys really need to reassess what you’re doing if you’re going to oppose MAGA. You can’t just be blue-MAGA.
Yep. And merely “make sure you vote”-level of hot takes is not going to do anything about. We are continuing to witness the total failure of political experts in realtime.
Then why’d they let Trump on the ballot?
Which they even leaked in advance to deaf ears. The author of this article would not have the rights-based arguments against Dobbs. MAGA isn’t some accident.
The New Deal was a massive set of rights violations and absolutely unconstitutional. Only the most politically illiterate of leftists would describe it as “safety net for the poor.” I think we are in a lot of trouble due to a serious lack of expertise in politics.
I think foreign policy experts, like Tom Nichols, are a big part of why NATO has no idea how to handle a crumbling 3rd world dictatorship, like Russia.
None of us would be alive if not for fossil fuels, just like many of us would not be alive without vaccines. So, even if there were negative side effects, being anti-things-that-enormously-benefit-human-life means you're doing something wrong with your thinking.
Only if you think like an anti-vaccer.
You wouldn't be alive, nor would we be having this conversation since the technology to do so would not be possible, without fossil fuels.
As much as it needs to keep pretending it's a viable industry, destroying billions of scarce resources in the process.
Fossil isn't bad for the environment, because it's good for human life, and human life is *part* of the environment. Pollution exists, just like taking a dump exists. That's just part of being alive, not a reason to commit civilization-wide-mass-suicide.
They survive on subsidy. Our energy prices are skyrocketing. Etc.
If anything, it's the suggestion that something that has improved our standard of living to unprecedented levels, such as fossil fuels, is somehow not good for our lives, that should "feels like disingenuous propaganda." Solar and wind can't even pay for themselves. Total waste of resources.
I'm an advocate of fossil fuels for the same reason that I'm an advocate for vaccines. No one needs to pay me for that.
Because I'm not anti-vaccine-level IQ, I guess.
That’s the same as MAGA cultists branding everyone with TDS. MAGA and blue-MAGA are basically the same.
Now do the anti-fossil fuel types that want us to go back to medieval peasant solar and wind dependance.
All the people who failed to prevent the anti-fossil fuel loons from crippling our energy supply, are not going to prevent anti-vaccine loons from crippling our healthcare.
Yes, anti-fossil fuel is just as dangerous for society as anti-vaccine.
It’s not false, as we can see from our spiralling energy prices.
Nothing about looting billions and destroying the energy sector of industrial civilization = "clean energy infrastructure."
This is going to be like when the anti-vaccers finally get their way, and childhood mortality rates skyrocket, and they conclude from this, "see? we told you to stop vaccinating." We are living in very low IQ times.
Solar and wind consume more energy than they produce and require subsidy. That's why utility bills are skyrocketing.
That's why everyone else is paying higher prices.
Making profit and being taxed =/= being unprofitable and surviving wealth seized from those who are profitable. It certainly doesn't mean cheaper. I think it also tells you that "green energy" is not really green. It consumes more than it produces. It's quite wasteful of scarce resources.
I think they pay taxes and get tax credits. That's not the same as solar panel and windmill manufacturers, which make no economic sense, and cannot exist without massive subsidy and beneficial regulations. So, saying they are "cheaper" is just wrong on the face of it. They're net negative.
But that's the thing, you support all the same things as Trump voters. You just want "good" fascists regulating our lives, instead of "bad" ones, like Trump.
We had no foreign policy before, and we have no foreign policy now, least of all with regards to China. Foreign policy is one area which has been so lacking in expertise, for so long, that Trump really can't make it much worse.
I think the overwhelming majority of people share your position, but that's how we got Trump, and statist dems. This will only get worse until we actually get some politically literate people into the discourse, respect the profit motive, and get gov restricted to its proper function.
Resources need to be produced. Private companies are restricted from their scientific goals, both by regulation, and by having their resources seized by gov for political ends (instead of private profit). The gov funding of science, is an unconstitutional violation of rights and only harms science.
By violating rights, resulting in misallocation of scarce resources, all based on political considerations. That's how we get anti-fossil fuels and anti-vaccine lunacy dominating the mainstream. The right people are motivated by profit and just need the gov to get out of the way.
Rights-protecting govt is the founding ideal of the US. It's in the Declaration. In the context of *everything* the government's job is to maintain retaliatory force. It's stuff like courts, police, armed forces, etc. Gov has nothing to do with science and is ruining it to the extent it is involved.
Your options are either: 1. Rights-protecting government, and private funding for science, driven by the profit motive. OR 2. Government funded science, driven by politics, forever at the whim of politicians. When you get politicians like Trump, you get this, plus worse too. Which do you pick?
With this logic, you should love everything Trump is doing. You either support rights-protecting gov, capitalism, the profit motive, etc, or you're supporting MAGA in one form or another.
It's failed us because we keep doing popular voting for President instead of using the EC, as required by the Constitution. Instead of people saying, "abolish the EC," we should be saying "abolish popular voting for presidents. That's actually in the Constitution.)
Then you should love Trump. One of the crucial functions of the EC is to prevent the mob from installing their cult leader into the executive. The EC, along with every other mechanism of gov, failed in its job, because everyone wants democracy. That's what we got. It's Trump and MAGA. Or blue-MAGA.
Government should not be involved in science. All of this *should* be abolished. Trump is not really abolishing anything though; he's just destroying any form of science. But if you guys aren't supporting getting gov out of science, then you're not even understanding the real issue anyway.
And yet, I bet every one of these people is anti-fossil fuels.
The only thing voters decide in the US is their state's rep to congress. President is elected by the EC (at least that's how it should be, as per the Constitution). Politics is not about voting. It's a whole subject, just like any other field, that needs to be understood and practiced correctly.
But everyone thinks the US is a “democracy,” so every branch of government decided not to do their jobs, and let the “voters decide” instead. And now, here we are…
Our only hope is that he won’t be able to intimidate the mechanisms designed to prevent this, like SCOTUS, congress, etc. That he won’t have the same cult-leader power of Trump. Beyond that, we are toast. There are simply no competent voices in politics anywhere near the mainstream.
Renewables can't even survive without subsidy.
But the US is a republic, and explicitly *not* a democracy. Politics, like any other subject, needs to be understood by its practitioners. Our issue is a massive lack of expertise in the mainstream, hoping that "democracy" and voting will save us instead. Nope. It gives us MAGA and blue-MAGA.
Western foreign policy experts to the rescue...of Russia.
Not just "something." You need to stand for individual rights, rights-protecting government, and capitalism. Anything else, is just MAGA in one form or another. I don't think democrats are not going to save us from the mess they helped create.
Agreed. But when are you guys going to cover all the dangerous lunatics that are anti-fossil fuels?
Either way this is not a good result for the US, nor the world. The conservative movement is a mess of politically illiterate authoritarians.
Yep. The function of every branch of the US government can be described as designed prevent something like a Trump Presidency. What we have is an unprecedented failure of expertise among the political field. From Congress, to states, to DoJ, etc, everyone has failed to do their jobs.
It's a valid point. Anti-fossil fuel loons are as bad as anti-vaccine loons, and are responsible for many of the issues with energy prices. Opposing MAGA, doesn't mean supporting blue-MAGA.
The issue is that congressional dems have no way to counter a conservative movement more left wing than they are. Unless dems want to move in the direction of support for individual rights, rights-protecting government, and capitalism, then they can't oppose Trump. Nor do they really want to.
Just like no amount of sunlight, or wind, is going to replace fossil fuels, right? Right?
I think generations of government involvement in education has basically destroyed academia to such a degree that in 2025 there isn't a single expert in the mainstream that even understands basic political concepts, like individual rights. There's no one to really push back on this.
Then why hasn't it been done? Sadly, the issues with Western foreign policy long predate Trump.
Because that's what they've been taught by the West's foreign policy experts. That's why the West can't win any wars, why NATO lost to the Taliban, and has no plans to deal with crumbling 3rd world Russia. Thanks to people like Tom, the West no longer understands war and doesn't take it seriously.
Once you accept the premise behind concepts like "war crime" then the West's moral clarity in war is destroyed. The victims acting in retaliation are branded "war criminals," while genocidal aggressors are labelled victims. I think we need to address the bad ideas dominating Western foreign policy.
"War crimes" is a concept that makes as much sense as a "square circle." It's a symptom of the intellectual rot and general lack of expertise in foreign policy. I think approaching war like it's some domestic policy, peacetime police work, legal dispute, or something, is Darwin-award-level stuff.
So, are all the leftists beginning to realize that unless they support individual rights, rights-protecting government, and capitalism, then they're not really opposing Trump?
Then you should be calling for Israel to military crush Hamas without any further inexcusable delay.
Yes, when they limit the range of Ukraine's weapons, I guess they are also helping Russia "stay in the fight too." The West's handling of Russia's aggression has been nothing short of appalling. Unless Ukraine gets NATO membership, all talk of security guarantees is bogus.
I think anything short of Ukraine becoming a full member of NATO is *not* a real security guarantee.
No, I'm anti-Hamas.
So, the question then becomes: why haven't Western foreign policy experts taken the appropriate action? And now that we have the Trump disaster compounding this issue, the real culprits for the West's utter disgrace in foreign policy are once again escaping accountability.
But what else can the West do? After generations of foreign policy experts mainstreaming terrible ideas, like Just War Theory, the West can't even defeat the Taliban, or Hamas. Unless we start taking warfare seriously, appeasement is the only option left.
It's not like we were crushing Russia before Trump, or something. I think the issues we have in foreign policy is the responsibility of Just War Theory advocates. They have turned warfare into peacetime legal disputes. This has resulted in the absurd reality of Taliban, Hamas, etc, being unbeatable.
I think that's the view of Western foreign policy experts, who have turned the entire subject of warfare into peacetime police work. They have misinformed generations of people and the hordes of loons attacking you are a consequence of this massive failure of expertise.
Protesting won't help when everyone wants authoritarianism anyway. What's needed is politically literate experts, advocates of individual rights, rights-protecting gov, and capitalism, to take back the political discourse. But that's not going to happen overnight.
But I think that's in large part because people like Tom Nichols have turned the entire field of warfare into domestic peacetime police work. Our foreign policy experts should be facing some very serious consequences for their failures. Taliban, Hamas, Russia, etc, should not be any kind of threat.
Yep, so if you're anti-Israel, and an apologist for theocratic authoritarians, these are your people.
In the end, it doesn’t matter what brush you’re tarred with. When you have the same views as someone like Nick Fuentes, then you need to reconsider your views.
Yea, I think the NeverTrumpers played a huge role in this whole mess with their very basic grasp of politics, and nothing has really changed. It’s not clear what JVL even supports. Simply being against Trump isn’t enough.
To be against Trumpism first requires that one supports individual rights, rights-protecting gov and capitalism. Not anything else. If we had enough people for that, MAGA would already be over. Sadly, all we have are different flavours of MAGA.
They hit it a long time ago. It's a big reason we couldn't defeat the Taliban (religious conservatives). MAGA has been coming since Reagen brought the religious kooks into the GOP, and why alliance of convenience with these anti-West loons, because dems also bad, was always a bad idea for liberals.
No, but they certainly weren't being as gentle as Israel is with Hamas. That would've been insane and led to the allies defeat.
Yes, there's been bad ideas for centuries.
I think you're wrong about that in a few ways. But Israel bought their lands, so they did it legally, even though they could've done it without that just as legitimately anyway.
Bringing legal concepts (which are domestic policy and peace time concepts) into war is like measuring distance in liters. I think Western foreign policy experts are real dumbos that have caused a lot of damage.
All the people in Germany weren't Nazi's either.
Isn't it crazy that these guys can't see that they are just like MAGA on that other place we all left?
It's really terrifying TBH, but props for having the balls to do this, and taking all comers on with such good humour.
Sadly, we can thank Western foreign policy experts for creating this mess. Ideas like Just War Theory, "war crimes," etc, have destroyed the West's moral clarity in war. They've turned war into peace-time police work, and this only encourages aggression from the West's enemies and their apologists.
But foreign policy experts, like Tom Nichols, have a lot to answer for on this issue. Because of the terrible ideas these people have mainstreamed, Western countries cannot defend themselves anymore. Tom is getting eaten alive by the monster he helped create.
No, I'm on the side of Israel against genocidal Hamas. You are on the side of Hamas, which means you're on the side of genocidal evil.
I think I've indulged your nutty evil long enough. Time to say bye.
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This conversation is you engaging with every possible evasion as you downplay actual crimes against humanity, while trying to accuse the victims of war crime.
I think you should be able to call for Israel to mercilessly crush Hamas by end of the week.
Your hangup on semantics of the atrocity you’re trying to downplay is bonkers and evil.
No, you don’t think warcrimes against Jews are a big deal. This whole exchange has been you downplaying crimes against humanity of Oct-7, while accusing Israels weak response of being a warcrime. That’s bonkers and evil.
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No my response is that you are an apologist for atrocity and genocide and so cannot criticise Israel. You’re just trying to evade accepting that you’re pretty bonkers and evil.
So you guys don’t think Oct-7 is a big deal, it wasn’t Eichman-level, and therefore you can’t criticise Israel.
So, not the same at all? And likely not pillaging either if we start going through it, which we don’t need to. The point is you’re an apologist for atrocity so cannot criticise Israel re anything.
Whether you’re really this level of degenerate moron, or just pretending, doesn’t change anything. You’re an apologist for atrocity and genocide, so cannot criticise Israel for anything.