Ridiculous position, exists somewhere in the same realm as Latvian monarchism
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Ridiculous position, exists somewhere in the same realm as Latvian monarchism
But also if you are Scotland's one remaining left-yoon: wise up, Claire
i guess you can join it if you're literally just Neil Fucking Findlay and you are Scotland's one remaining left-yoon
there already exists a vibrant scottish left, including - yes sorry fuck you - the SNP, the Greens, and even the SSP for those of you who have never outgrown your contrarian streak. stop larping as an english person
scottish people signing up to join Your Party for People's Party the Left Party for Jeremy Corbyn Party are actually fundamentally embarrassing and no one will change my mind on this
Honestly I think whoever asked this should be named and shamed, it's so dumb it's offensive
Picturing journalists asking this question in Weimar Germany and slowly losing my mind
it's going to be so great when labour move seamlessly from "the glorious flag nourishes our nation's soul" to "you can't eat flags" when the scottish elections roll around
kind of ironic for all of the evil social media has done (and that people who only get their news off it are morons), that if you only follow traditional media you also have no idea whats going on in the world either
wow. this sort of position is usually something one has to be /accused/ of
again, i have to treat this skeptically though. somehow i dont think you would have any allergic reaction to motions about ukraine, however also performative
mind you in meghan gallacher's case the only international issues she cares about are probably located just over the Sheuch
setting quite aside any sort of nat-yoon shitfighting over whether it is "appropriate" or not, i just want to point out that literally never does anyone make such complaints when it is an international issue they actually have strong feelings on
this is very well put @lastpositivist.bsky.social
you know, it's interesting to note where BBC journalists forget and don't forget the word "stated," as in "stated aim"
Oh fuck off BBC, stop doing paramilitary thugs' PR for them. The UDA barely touched Republican paramilitaries during The Troubles - they killed a grant total of 11 of them in 25 years. They killed three times as many *other Loyalist* paramilitaries, and *twenty* times as many random civilians.
It was also not even remotely close to the insanity posted by Hinder here, and it was explicitly /not/ about refugees.
In my entire time in the SNP I have witnessed deeply cautiously expressed migration-sceptic sentiment /once./ It was scepticism about something that an SNP MP had said. It basically immediately provoked groaning and a generalised Do Not Fucking Say That response in the room
No but honestly people can laugh but one way I know that at the end of the day the SNP is a better party than Labour by miles is that Hinder would get chased out screaming from literally any branch meeting.
if sephiroth was capital B Bald
Substitute Turkey for Italy but yeah
And that's not a comment about their religiosity, they had far too fucking plenty of that.
But alas, the people planning God's work were not remotely godly.
If it had worked, it would have prevented literally most evils that happened in the 20th century, just statistically.
Fundamentally, "everyone between Germany and Russia gets their freedom and forms a loose but devoted bloc of nations designed to beat the shit out of either if either ever comes for us again" was an incredibly correct, totally reasonable, and conceptually flawless proposal.
Both, really. Pilsudski as a person was both better and worse than the nation he led
The thing about Prometheism is that it was absolutely correct and like every great mythical hero's endeavours it was brought down by his* own flaws. *Poland
The thing about Prometheism is that it was absolutely correct and like every great mythical hero's endeavours it was brought down by his* own flaws. *Poland
Oh like that one is indisputably better, like it's not even funny.
Yes yes we are now just describing Kaiserreich
I would be willing to wager a fair bit of money that there are Lithuanian parties with similar internal election turnouts.
Then of course there were the Bermontians, who were a straight up bizarre final fusion of this cultural phenomenon
Entirely consistent when you remember the timeframe
951 is a perfectly reasonable turnout for a membership election in a national party operating in a nation of 5 million people, because the statistically normal percentage of people who are party members at all in any society is sub-1%.
the phrasing in question also intimates that small nations aren't nations
Yeah. A banal understated reason why Latvians were so overrepresented among Old Bolsheviks is because a huge amount of them rightly said "oh fuck no" when it seemed likely that it was either that or accept German suzerainty over the motherland. Have to imagine they /hated/ Brest-Litovsk though.
Like I feel fairly sober in guessing that what governance there would look like is a kind of apartheid.
Mind you I will actually say that Latvia and Estonia will be way way way worse off than Lithuania will, because what you're likely looking at there is a complete handover of power to the Baltic German aristocracy.
it seems to say the least severely unlikely that the kaiser can retain as a puppet state not just poland and the baltics but also belarus and ukraine, so those two would have probably gotten off with a light-touch unequal treaty
oh yeah i mean there would have been puppet states. also worth noting that for ukraine and belarus there is a genuine argument that the germans winning would have been better period
no like genuinely, polish/baltic independence was a lightning-in-a-bottle miracle outcome from the unexpected collapse of both parties on the eastern front and it is hugely underappreciated how unlikely that was
FWIW it would go away with electoral success and consequent professionalisation, because it always does. It basically did with the SNP. Of course that does not mean it shouldn't be a concern at the moment.
But I literally just said that I'm glad they lost!
Ok but I was more thinking of Azad Hind there
It's entirely consistent (within the parameters of a certain definition of the word) for Ireland to simultaneously go "we are brothers, we bled for your freedom with you" to the Belgians and "why did you send us to a pointless war" to the Brits because both are... well not true, but genuine.
we /incredibly/ lucked out on that one lads
Like it was a deal with a devil but all subsequent deals with devils for the remainder of human history since have been far less morally ambiguous.
Sorta, but the Entente still did /so many interestingly fucked up things/ to various other countries and colonies that it is hard for me to look particularly negatively on Pearse taking some German guns.
Look, I'm just saying, many countries have pulled that little trick of both claiming credit and washing their hands.
Yeah, but you know, in the words of the Foggy Dew, who was it who bade them fly there.
then of course there's the baltics and poland, who genuinely won out of both sides losing
i am by no means an imperial germany apologist but one of the more ridiculous ways in which that war was just kind of stupid is that it was like the last one where a third country legitimately could have had okay-ish reasons for being on either side
That being said, the spicier take about WW1 there is that from the Irish perspective there was absolutely no real reason to regard Germany as an enemy.
The funny thing about what a big deal is made of James Connolly hanging that Neither King Nor Kaiser banner is that... well, I do believe you believed that, but also the Kaiser did send you like most of your actual guns.
Well, admittedly, that was a bit more serious, in that technically speaking they did manage to send them quite a lot of arms.
It's like being angry at Grandpa, they can't do it.
Sure but I think in this case there's also a degree of just uncritical affection that a particular archetype of UK lefty levies at Corbyn because they felt genuinely uplifted by the changes in Labour in 2015ish.
Predicting anything 5 years forward is silly, case in point, imagine trying to predict "5 years from now" in idk June 2020
by that time ukraine will have won and yes i mean that
anyway it's redundant one way or the other because much as i would vote for independence tomorrow, there will not be a referendum to that effect for at least five years
the omnicause is a bad way to view the world whether your omnicause is russia or america
it's also kind of not the fault of the movement for scottish independence for the same reason that it was not the fault of the baltics that the collapse of the USSR may or may not have been conducive to US foreign policy aims depending on perspective
vladimir putin probably "supports" scottish independence in the same way that donald trump "supports" the independence of east turkestan, in that he can imagine ways in which that might be useful but it is hardly a chief or even auxiliary strategic objective and may not work out in his favour
it's fine buddy i still like you
Possibly every tenth voter of theirs too, prophylactically
While we're at it, we should jail all of Reform as Russian sympathisers
We should join the Euro anyway
Actually this one I would probably support
As a Lithuanian who is also a Scottish nationalist, this is the logic of the same people who want Ukraine to be conquered by Russia because the West doesn't want that.
Yes
Yup
Like whomst in English politics still /has/ a grip on reality? I'd rather the boob healer than a fascist.
Anyway in all seriousness my take on the boobnotist is that while I actually think that's a really discrediting feature that indicates this is a man with a poor grasp on reality, I also think Keir Starmer is literally 65% of a fascist, so
Sure sure but I'm just posting
This seems reasonable tbh
We can even have divorce parties across the island. Disunited but still friends
We can have a nice velvet divorce, with a currency union and everything if you lot choose wisely
Centrism isn't an obstacle to fascism or a bulwark against it. It's a welcome mat. There's no point telling people "It's Starmer or Farage" when the dynamic at work here is plainly Starmer *and* Farage. "Labour or Reform" makes as much sense at this point as "Vichy or the Third Reich".
Fwiw from my specific perspective another good reason to critically endorse GPEW, tit warts and all, is that it is the only English party that explicitly supports dissolving the UK. So you know.
like if you're a withdrawalist this is actually the only reasonable way to be one
i'm actually essentially content with this "withdrawal but later" stance x.com/ZackPolanski...
It's not /terrible/ tbf
Like a typical English lefty, he seems to be pro-Ukraine and just in denial about Corbyn's stance.
Eh he has wobbled on the latter, he has called attacks on Corbyn on this subject "an absurd line of questioning" in conversation with Novara. But I think that's more about his feelings on /Corbyn/ than Ukraine.
ok lmao that goes hard as shit well done
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Thinking this dynamic might be what placed Salma Yaqoob, otherwise very much more on the crank wing, in her camp
you mean the labour party special edition
Tbc I don't have some sort of moral objection to this, I'm just saying it is not exactly the strategy I would have chosen for the leader of GPEW, where the objective should be "in no way make voting for them seem remotely feasible even in theory"
if you're the press office, yes. if you're essentially a collective blog, it reads kind of insufficiently nonchalant to me
Like LL is not neutral journalism, LL is op-eds for Labour people to persuade other Labour people on Labour things. So them gearing up like this to comment on Polanski is kind of funny.
It is, but considering the context of who wrote it for what, that's very funny to me.
Again, I would simply not talk about my opponents as the Party of Government.
the other deeply funny thing about the existence of that LabourList article on Polanski's election is that it dropped so soon after the actual thing happened that it was clearly prewritten.
crititical support
One might think you're not as confident that you have the left vote on lockdown as all that
if it were me, Labour Party member blog LabourList, I would simply not draw attention to the Green Party of England and Wales at all
Well You Would Say That innit
True. But conversely Polanski has a natural charisma that JC simply does not