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Nathaniel C. Green

@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social

History professor at Northern Virginia Community College. Author, THE MAN OF THE PEOPLE, by Kansas Press. https://kansaspress.ku.edu/9780700629961/ Currently writing a book on the history of the three-fifths clause. Opinions solely my own.

created October 10, 2023

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Profile picture Nicholas Grossman (@nicholasgrossman.bsky.social) reposted

Bouie ends the “real or a show?” debate by explaining that it’s both at once. It’s real, a show, and their vision for the future, one that isn’t in place though possibly could be if it keeps going. Don’t fall for the show and take the reality seriously, resisting the vision. All simultaneously.

31/8/2025, 11:37:20 AM | 237 57 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Quite telling that that's the bar. I intend to raise it.

30/8/2025, 11:07:13 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Thank you for putting this on my radar screen. I'll be interested to read what he has to say about the 3/5 clause

30/8/2025, 5:18:48 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Full study is here, quote is on p. 19 arxiv.org/pdf/2506.08872

30/8/2025, 2:21:23 AM | 1 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

A paragraph from this MIT study, which I read with my own two eyes, and you should, too.

30/8/2025, 12:47:25 AM | 158 72 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Ted McCormick (@tedmccormick.bsky.social) reposted reply parent

You turned university into a conveyor belt to coding jobs by killing everything else it did and then you automated coding and it's the university's fault your kids learned to code, do I have that right

29/8/2025, 11:57:10 PM | 49 13 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

Try to imagine being so detested by millions upon millions of people that they look forward to your death with more yearning than any holiday.

30/8/2025, 12:01:14 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Peter (@notalawyer.bsky.social) reposted

one of the great conservative moves over the past decade has been to make themselves so unpleasant that their own family members are forced to cut them off, and then use that fact to argue that *liberals* are too uncivil

29/8/2025, 11:34:06 PM | 4116 764 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

I have done that, too. Thank you for doing so!

29/8/2025, 9:12:47 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Also wish my retirement plan included pleasant strolls in a pasture.

29/8/2025, 8:39:39 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

Same. Joni Ernst is an awful person and no one loves her.

29/8/2025, 8:38:16 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

I assume they mean "even more compromised than the Secretary of Defense."

29/8/2025, 8:34:40 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

I feel very fortunate to have leaders at @apsva.us who are willing to stand up for trans students in our community. Far too few leaders are. No matter what these awful, pathetic people threaten you with, do not give in. Do not compromise. Do not budge. Trans students are not expendable.

29/8/2025, 8:32:29 PM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

I would remind @apsva.us of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s point about obeying just laws and disobeying unjust ones. Do not obey unjust laws! Protect trans students, no matter what.

29/8/2025, 8:31:04 PM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

I worry that that may not be the case in the near future. @apsva.us need to stand by their convictions, no matter what SCOTUS does, because protecting trans students is the right thing to do.

29/8/2025, 8:29:55 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

I am proud of @apsva.us for standing by its policies and no capitulating to Trump's attempts at bullying and extortion. APS has said its current policies are consistent with VA law, with Title IX, and with current SCOTUS rulings. However...

29/8/2025, 8:28:40 PM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

Donald Trump and his fucking anti-trans misogynist shitweasels at the Department of Education have designated Arlington Public Schools "high-risk" because of its policies protecting trans students and is freezing millions of dollars that APS relies on. Fuck Donald Trump and the Dept. of Ed.

29/8/2025, 8:25:05 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Either Trump's presidency is legitimate, or the Constitution is legitimate. Both cannot be true. We must choose, and the future of this country pivots on the choice we all make.

28/8/2025, 2:14:02 AM | 115 18 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Convinced that if such a movement is to succeed, it has to begin with the basic premise that this administration's actions have been in flagrant violation of the Constitution, and are thus illegitimate. Those actions have to be voided, and people who broke the law brought to justice.

28/8/2025, 2:13:17 AM | 122 8 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Kevin: those Onion writers have to feed their families, and you just...skeeted it out. Come on, man.

28/8/2025, 12:39:28 AM | 14 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

Ruin a book by adding Tom Clancy's to the title All Quiet on Tom Clancy's Western Front

28/8/2025, 12:25:31 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Kevin M. Kruse (@kevinmkruse.bsky.social) reposted

The mantra for this era is "fuck you, make me."

28/8/2025, 12:19:25 AM | 1652 315 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Mike Luckovich (@mluckovich.bsky.social) reposted

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27/8/2025, 8:10:16 PM | 7514 3008 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

The cankles are a nice touch

27/8/2025, 8:17:33 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

"There was a free black man...who, for asking a gentleman that he worked for for the money he had earned, was put into gaol; and afterwards...was sent from Georgia, with false accusations, of an intention to set the gentleman's house on fire, and run away with his slaves."-Olaudah Equiano

27/8/2025, 8:14:39 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture 50501: The People’s Movement ❌👑 (@50501movement.bsky.social) reposted

It’s official. September 6th. From all across this nation. We march in D.C. Join us.

26/8/2025, 11:06:39 PM | 2693 1089 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

I've gone so far as to encourage students to take hand-written notes by letting them use them on their in-person, hand-written essay Midterm and Final. Hand-written notes, only. Nothing typed.

27/8/2025, 12:31:07 AM | 4 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture jamelle (@jamellebouie.net) reposted

i'm actually a big believer in drafting by hand. i think it helps you think in a different way then typing on a screen

27/8/2025, 12:11:17 AM | 3376 260 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

Always read @moiradonegan.bsky.social www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...

26/8/2025, 3:07:39 PM | 0 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Moira Donegan (@moiradonegan.bsky.social) reposted

I wrote about the re-arrest of Kilmar Abrego Garcia. www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...

26/8/2025, 2:02:12 PM | 236 62 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

Congratulations to @jamellebouie.net on a well-deserved award!

26/8/2025, 1:42:22 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture I Post Animal Vids... 😊 (@realjfairclough.bsky.social) reposted

Baby fever?? No. BABY BEAVER! 🥺 #bluesky

20/8/2025, 7:20:05 PM | 7163 920 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

[Andy Rooney voice]: Back in my day, when you BOUGHT something, you OWNED it.

20/8/2025, 6:24:55 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

We are living through an era where so many new things objectively suck worse than their predecessors. What we have was fine, even good. The "new" thing was something nobody asked for, nobody needs, and is shittier than the status quo, foisted on us by rich racist dweebs who think they know shit.

20/8/2025, 6:18:01 PM | 4 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

I'm kind of joking, but kind of not

20/8/2025, 6:15:29 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

Every generation thinks that things were better when they were younger. Every generation is wrong, except mine. We had cable, none of this streaming BS. When you bought a movie or an album, you owned it, forever. There were physical buttons in our cars and thermostats. What a time to be alive.

20/8/2025, 6:14:48 PM | 9 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

Baffling to me that this piece mentions the Naturalization Act of 1790 ("good character"), but doesn't mention that that Act also made "being a free white person" an explicit requirement for citizenship, too. It even links to this article discussing this! scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcont...

20/8/2025, 5:18:41 PM | 5 2 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture ihrc-umn.bsky.social (@ihrc-umn.bsky.social) reposted

Join us Sept 17 for a timely webinar on Birthright Citizenship and learn from the experts @unlawfulentries.bsky.social @skantrow.bsky.social @cnacken1.bsky.social William Jones and Cecilia Marquez. Register z.umn.edu/BirthrightCitizen @umn-amst.bsky.social @umnlawschool.bsky.social

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20/8/2025, 2:44:05 PM | 23 10 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Here's the full story: blackhistory.harpweek.com/7Illustratio...

20/8/2025, 12:54:14 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

This man made his way to Union lines, "for deliverance from his tormentor," the article says. "Of course he found the deliverance which he sought, and the instrument of torment is preserved by us as a mournful example of the deep degradation to which the soul, tainted by secession, may descend."

Image of enslaved man with an iron collar around his neck. Below, the caption reads:
20/8/2025, 12:53:31 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Sorry, here's the image

Image from 1862, depicting a black man with an iron collar around his neck, with three long prongs protruding from it, each with a curled tip. Caption reads:
20/8/2025, 12:48:00 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

Also, this horrific thing used by an enslaver in Missouri during the Civil War www.slaveryimages.org/database/ima...

20/8/2025, 12:45:26 AM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Adam Rothman enjoys a good sandwich (@adamrothman.bsky.social) reposted

"Cotton Machine Used for Punishing Runaways, South Carolina, 1830s," from Moses Roper, A narrative of the adventures and escape of Moses Roper from American slavery (London, 1837), p. 51. #slaveryarchive www.slaveryimages.org/database/ima...

20/8/2025, 12:25:49 AM | 123 68 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

That line is, itself, something enslavers would say in a variety of contexts. During the MO crisis, enslavers even used that line about the enslaved being "family" to deny that moving enslaved people West was "commerce," and thus couldn't be regulated by Congress.

19/8/2025, 11:57:19 PM | 25 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

White supremacists have always been whiny, pathetic, emotional sad-sacks who talk tough about being strong and smart and rational, but are actually slaves to their worst impulses. It's all emotion. Always has been.

19/8/2025, 10:49:25 PM | 4 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

Also, you know who also talked a lot about their feelings? Enslavers. The "feeling" that slavery was a "right". The "feeling" that whites were superior, and that the law had to reinforce that. The "feeling" that they were justified in using threats and violence to get their way.

19/8/2025, 10:47:26 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

I saw that suggestion by someone else who replied to your thread, and FWIW I agree!

19/8/2025, 8:59:30 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

Whenever @swilua.bsky.social writes her memoir, this has got to be the opening. Not just the apology for assigning a book that included mention (picture?) of a dildo, but also having to explain to the boss what a dildo even *is*.

19/8/2025, 8:54:57 PM | 31 4 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Thomas Lecaque (@tlecaque.bsky.social) reposted

Do I have any academic friends who work specifically on American slavery who'd like to co-write a piece on this, fast and angrily?

19/8/2025, 8:09:44 PM | 529 138 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

"Can't we say *anything* nice about slavery" sounds stupid and racist because it is. But it circulates because of this belief that being "objective" or "civil" means we have to say something nice about everyone, including people who thought they should be allowed to own other people.

19/8/2025, 7:45:49 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

Trump is obviously a racist shitheap, but what gives the whole "how bad slavery was" line oxygen is the both-sidesism that pervades our media and educational spaces.

19/8/2025, 7:43:34 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

"Nothing about Success, nothing about Brightness, nothing about the Future." The Smithsonian Museum of African American History featured an exceptional exhibit on Afro-Futurism, which this dipshit would know if he actually went there and paid the fuck attention.

19/8/2025, 7:16:08 PM | 5 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

If you have not read PUNISH TREASON, REWARD LOYALTY by Mark Graber on this point, I highly recommend it! kansaspress.ku.edu/9780700635030/

19/8/2025, 5:38:23 PM | 4 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Paul Waldman (@paulwaldman.bsky.social) reposted reply parent

And the thing is, when he brings in a group of actual serious leaders, he proudly shows of his collection of dumbass hats and his horrifically gaudy Oval Office with all the chintzy gold crap, and thinks "They're gonna be so impressed with how classy I am." He really does. Such an embarrassment.

19/8/2025, 2:28:39 PM | 77 9 | View on Bluesky | view

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19/8/2025, 12:47:18 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Zinn Education Project (@zinnedproject.bsky.social) reposted

DC area educators: Sign up for Social Justice Curriculum Fair, next Saturday. Workshops on: -- Model Gary Convention for students -- SNCC's approach to organizing, co-led by SNCC vet (with free toolkit) -- how D.C. activists challenged interstate highway -- more Uplifting camaraderie. Free books.

16/8/2025, 11:54:31 PM | 9 6 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

When I first saw this I thought I might craft and assignment where I have my U.S. history students fact-check her, using primary sources, but she's all over the place, and shifts from slavery to trans athletes in sports. Borderline incoherent.

16/8/2025, 11:46:59 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Historian of the 3/5 clause here. No. Just no. So much no.

16/8/2025, 2:24:05 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Jane Fiegen Green (@janefgreen.bsky.social) reposted

I had a great time chatting with the fabulous reporters for ARLnow.

16/8/2025, 2:17:19 AM | 11 2 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture ARLnow (@arlnow.bsky.social) reposted

Podcast: Free e-bike money, the county fair and housing policy with Jane Green www.arlnow.com/2025/08/15/p...

15/8/2025, 7:50:46 PM | 7 2 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

*screams in historian*

16/8/2025, 1:15:04 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

My boys, playing at the National Building Museum in D.C. this last weekend.

13/8/2025, 6:55:58 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathan McDermott (@nathanmcdermott.bsky.social) reposted reply parent

The Indian Removal Act of 1830 wasn’t popular and was very controversial. It only passed by 2 votes, and if not for the 3/5 compromise giving slave states extra congressional representation, it wouldnt have passed at all. Coincidentally, I’m working on a podcast about it! bsky.app/profile/nath...

13/8/2025, 1:08:53 PM | 90 15 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture jamelle (@jamellebouie.net) reposted

my latest is on the president’s abuse of emergency powers and his psychological and practical interest in crisis government. gift link. www.nytimes.com/2025/08/13/o...

13/8/2025, 9:50:39 AM | 2544 638 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture jamelle (@jamellebouie.net) reposted reply parent

the thing everyone is going to have to accept is that the post-trump period, whenever it comes, will not and cannot be a project of national unity, it must be a project of partisan project of renewal, in the same way that reconstruction and the new deal were partisan projects of renewal.

12/8/2025, 11:18:25 PM | 13928 3324 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Emily Farris (@emayfarris.bsky.social) reposted

Look at your syllabus. Take off that assignment that you hate grading. And take off at least one of those new readings you added, because November you is going to be mad at you.

12/8/2025, 4:55:43 PM | 477 70 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Mark Jacob (@markjacob.bsky.social) reposted

You can't teach U.S. history without "divisive" narratives. Slavery wasn't "unifying." The Japanese incarceration wasn't "unifying." The anti-immigrant Operation Wetback (real name) wasn't "unifying." It's history's job to tell the truth, not cover up past racism to pave the way for future racism.

12/8/2025, 10:21:45 PM | 4415 1610 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Jacqueline Antonovich (@jackiantonovich.bsky.social) reposted

One thing I recently learned for college teaching: link to assigned articles through your library’s website instead of uploading a PDF to Canvas. It helps the library track their usage metrics.

12/8/2025, 4:49:05 PM | 207 69 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

BTW the new "The Running Man" trailer looks like the upcoming movie will be much more faithful to the novella than the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie was

12/8/2025, 2:05:44 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

"Quote this with a book you read way too young that explains why you are the way you are." I went through a whole Stephen King phase in upper elementary, middle-school age: Misery Rage The Running Man The Long Walk Pet Sematary Eyes of the Dragon (Parts of) It and The Stand

12/8/2025, 2:03:29 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Adam Rothman enjoys a good sandwich (@adamrothman.bsky.social) reposted

But I was told AI will replace historians

8/8/2025, 11:00:07 AM | 166 20 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

7/8/2025, 4:52:59 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

All this is to say, @thetattooedprof.bsky.social is right, and I think faculty's in-person classes are the best way to do the kind of outreach he's talking about. So do what you can to keep those in-person classes, and fight for them!

7/8/2025, 4:51:46 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

The result: a lot of online courses are actually *more* writing-intensive than in-person classes. There is nobody there to prod the student to turn in their work. The work is especially prone to cheating, *and* it's virtually impossible to foster any meaningful sense of community among students.

7/8/2025, 4:48:45 PM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Students have also learned that online classes are often actually *harder* than their in-person equivalent. This is usually not intentional. But what would be basic interaction in an in-person course (group discussion, for instance) now becomes a written assignment meant to "simulate" discussion

7/8/2025, 4:47:18 PM | 5 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

College leadership, IMHO, should prioritize in-person classes as a way of fostering exactly this kind of community, *and* as a way of maximizing the learning that can take place. We know that even students who learn by taking an online class would learn *more* if they took it in-person.

7/8/2025, 4:45:25 PM | 4 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Learning can occur in online classes. But colleges promote them as a convenient alternative to in-person classes, which in turn leads to lower enrollment in in-person classes. That, in turn, makes it harder to cultivate the kind of campus community college leaders say they value.

7/8/2025, 4:44:07 PM | 4 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

An added challenge is how heavily so many institutions (like community colleges) promote online, asynchronous classes over in-person classes. I teach both, and I can tell you that even the "best" online courses are a pale shadow of in-person classes.

7/8/2025, 4:42:09 PM | 24 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Am I reading this right? That SCOTUS justices "care" so much about historian-written amicus briefs that "It's created jobs"? Did I miss the ads for all these jobs on H-NET?

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7/8/2025, 4:00:15 PM | 5 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

It is absolutely possible to criticize Israel without being anti-Semitic. It is wrong to kill innocent civilians, and Israel should stop doing it. See? Not anti-Semitic.

7/8/2025, 3:51:23 PM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

I am not Jewish. But I find it deeply troubling that anything but unquestioned support for a state amounts to a hateful attack on the members of a world religion.

7/8/2025, 3:49:21 PM | 4 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

Evergreen post (sadly)

7/8/2025, 2:08:44 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

"It was not merely that Ghislaine was a product of an elite unburdened by principle, who often reduce their daughters to mere ornaments. It is that an ornament, it seems, is all that Ghislaine Maxwell ever aspired to be." Brilliantly captures what is sad and what is terrible about her story.

7/8/2025, 1:44:34 PM | 11 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Pro tip: If a dude with six fingers on his right hand shows up wanting the sword, tell him to eff off but be ready to fight. And if you lose, make sure you have a son that will dedicate his life to avenging you.

7/8/2025, 1:07:05 PM | 16 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Parkinson also has a great discussion of the way Jefferson's declaration builds to a "crescendo" with the "merciless Indian savages" line and the (deleted) paragraph about slavery. You can find it in THIRTEEN CLOCKS, which is a very readable, condensed version of THE COMMON CAUSE

7/8/2025, 1:52:02 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

You might consider Robert Parkinson, "Friends and Enemies in the Declaration of Independence," in @jbf1755.bsky.social and Johann Neem, eds., JEFFERSONIANS IN POWER.

7/8/2025, 1:49:32 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

This is like Veep dialogue: the sheer, relentless awfulness of it, deployed mercilessly with expert precision at target's most vulnerable insecurities, with the sole intention of maximizing irreparable harm to the soul. There is such a perverse craftsmanship to it. Staggering.

6/8/2025, 7:57:32 PM | 78 2 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

To the extent that's true, it's rife with inaccuracies. 1) Many human college students are not noisy drunks 2) Even noisy drunks deserve housing! 3) Restricting housing actually drives up housing costs, it doesn't reduce them.

6/8/2025, 6:41:45 PM | 31 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

Crucial framing here. AI is so often marketed as a way of eliminating "unimportant tasks." Which means people who admit to using it are telling us what they think is "unimportant."

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Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

I grew up in Fort Madison, Iowa, a town with no college/university, few apartments, few opportunities (and fewer now than when I lived there). When I moved to Cedar Falls (where UNI is), I absolutely loved it. Will never understand hostility toward colleges by people who live in college towns

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Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

Yikes.

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Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

My in-laws live in the Black Hills of South Dakota. It's very conservative, and also deeply economically dependent on tourism. I wonder what kind of impact Trump's xenophobia will have on tourism-related businesses in conservative areas

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Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Democracies are built on trust. We shouldn't trust Trump. But we also shouldn't adopt his stance that nothing can be trusted.

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Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

Remember: the essence of Trump's political project is to undermine democracy by destroying democratic institutions and to salt the earth so they can't be cultivated after he's gone. That means destroying not only the institutions but the public trust needed for them to function.

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Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

There is a difference between credulous acceptance of authority (bad!) and the kind of trust that any democratic system needs to function (good!). Mistakes happen. It's important that we not take a mistake as evidence of something nefarious without evidence clearly indicating the connection.

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Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

...3. The number of folks who (like me) thought the worst tells us much about how much distrust and fear already exist in our political culture right now, but also 4. Why it's important not to give into reflexive cynicism or suspicion of wrongdoing until we have the facts

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Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social)

FWIW: 1. I believe the LOC when they say this was a technical error, not intentional or rooted in coercion from Trump 2. I was concerned about it @ first, given the specific parts of the Constitution that were missing, as were many ...

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Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

But there are historians who liked the AHA statement. (I corresponded with one yesterday). The same folks who endorsed that study likely also liked the AHA statement.

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Profile picture Nathaniel C. Green (@nathanielcgreen.bsky.social) reply parent

I'm not convinced there's a contradiction here, as your OP suggested. If there are specific people who endorsed the use of AI on ancient inscriptions *and* also criticized the AHA statement, that's a more compelling argument.

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