Amar's new book is a lot, and I will have a lot to say about it www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/akhil...
Amar's new book is a lot, and I will have a lot to say about it www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/akhil...
I dont do book reviews and havent read this but the description makes me want to fuck him up. A story of the universe bending toward justice in...1920?!?!? When white men routinely lost their minds in the north and killed people. And things fluctuated; they didnt trend up (for women or black people)
We worked equality out by 1920 is one heck of a take
It’s going to be a challenging review to write because…. Yeah
“Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln…”
This is 6 yrs before 1920 but it has a similarly rosy view And to be fair, most black people were not lynched
You could walk into a movie theater and pay a couple cents to watch a lynching video. In the north.
Oh yeah, my specialty is northern discrimination. The myth of northern innocence is IMO toxic to con law and more importantly history education nationwide
I’ll note Amar is one the first to normalize Bove (possibly because he wants to send students to clerk for him)
Yikes
Like 10% of white Protestants would literally join the Klan within a year or two of 1920.
We grabbed tens of thousands of women off the street and incarcerated them for unfounded promiscuity or STDs.
An amazing book (i lucked out that scott was my editor on one of my articles)
I know this rhetorical, but why is it that I didn't learn about this stuff until after law school...?
Same!
The age old pastime of blaming & punishing women for making men do bad sexual things.
We know what we did
Let it be a lesson to us* (*Of exactly what, tho 😒)
A man recently had the audacity to say, in my presence, “As I’ve gotten older, I realized that teenage girls don’t know what they’re doing to teenage boys when they wear short skirts.” “What is it they’re doing?” I inquired “They’re making boys look at them as objects.”
So 'Birth of a Nation: Hardbound'?
“foremost constitutional scholar” seems false to me
Sure, it that’s a tier. If it’s an individual…
I’ll say that it captures the vibe
😂
There’s one footnote in particular that I’m not going to spoil but will absolutely merit comment
Cmon, spoil it so I don’t have to spend $40.
It’s a string cite to all of the opinions in which he has been cited
Lololol
Oh my. Did he also say that he has many leather-bound books and his apartment smells of rich mahogany?
🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
This fits. In one of those National Constitution Center debates in '18 about birth right citizenship he was up against some buffoon, but he gratuitously brought up "that he was meeting with a SCOTUS justice the next day" or something. constitutioncenter.org/news-debate/...
My understanding is that he saw JD Vance and was openly like “why are we admitting the state school rubes?” And that is among the reasons JD Vance is the way he is
On one hand, he wasn't wrong to think JD Vance sucks. On the other hand, that is still a terrible outlook.
That’s also just something you wouldn’t say unless you’re a total asshole.
Totally (speaking as a Michigan Texas alum lol)
This sounds entirely on point for both Amar and Vance.
For real? I can’t tell who is joking anymore.
Could totally be an unfounded rumor, but that is what I heard
A new term: Egociting.
In case any reader wasn't aware of who he is?
From your thread, I take it that it appeals to America's better angels? That's an interesting period for that sort of approach. I look forward to reading what you have to say. It'll heavily influence whether I try to read the book this fall or wait.
Is it good?
depends on your evaluative criteria. It tells the story it intends to tell, and it tells it well. It is not the definitive history of anything.
Sounds like an Amar book.
That’s actually one reason I tend to like his books. They’re very good, just not as definitive and comprehensive as they sell themselves as. They’re advancing a legal-historical argument and mode of rhetoric, often quite well, but they aren’t the field-closing, era-defining works they want to be.
I agree. His biography of the Constitution is very good. It’s a great reference.
Yes, I have my elective seniors read it every summer. But all his books (including the first volume in this three volume group) no one gets to be the final word in a discussion as complex as living out our constitutional values. And in a way, his overarching framework admits he can’t be either!
I do not like this. I think trying to close fields by means of partial histories advertised as History is bad. It is undemocratic and politically stultifying, even if the substance is good (I do not think it is). But I will say more, later.
I am looking forward to reading your thoughts! I enjoyed Words That Made Us, though it had plenty of flaws and was very self-indulgent in many places, and so I anticipated this volume would be similar on balance. I gather it is substantively different.
Have you read Greg Ablavsky’s review of the first book?
I haven’t, but I’ll go look it up. I’m not a real lawyer or legal academic and just do my best to keep up on the field (so I know who Ablavsky is at least!) but I often miss things like a particularly good review or article. Thanks for the tip.
Oh I wasn’t assuming you didn’t know the literature or anything! It’s definitely worth reading the review. It’s brutal.
I have, and it will be a challenge to avoid repeating what he said
It's different, but I have some common issues with both.
A very Hamburgian standard of success in legal history!
I read the reviews and if Calabresi said something like he did for this work about anything I did, I’d be questioning myself. Maybe that’s just me
Sorry, I only read one biography per person/document.
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I suppose it’s hard to write a US history that emphasizes the centrality of an equal-rights tradition. But maybe, for a certain audience (including judges who like “history and tradition”), it’s important to try?
That’s not the problem honestly
Spoiler: the problem is the “definitive” part
This is A story that one might tell. It is not The Story and it leaves out a lot and erases a lot.
And that is very expressly the point. There is no room for other stories. They are wrong. I disagree.
Tentatively entitled "The 1863 Project"
I have a hunch he said a lot of these things in my 2013 seminar.
Esp.: bsky.app/profile/joed...
I think it is best interpreted as a work of hagiography, in the original sense of an idealized biography cataloguing miracles and depicting martyrdom to perpetuate a faith
In the common vernacular, (work with me, please) are you suggesting it is Amar’s spin on history?
You think I am exaggerating. I am not. There are scores of pages dedicated to the death portraits of antislavery figures. Glad you asked, not John Brown whom he dismisses as a fanatic.
I mean he was certainly a fanatic!
It's not a bad one!
Being mildly anti-slavery reflects an immense failure of character
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Tell my wife...hello
So uncivil. Should have dialogued with the Border Ruffians.
I’m sure we’re both aware that the word has negative connotations and that when one calls someone a “violent fanatic” it is usually not a compliment nor a tribute to their political significance
Woof
Omg!! Black women didn’t get the vote until 1965, not the 1920 date this guy says. John Brown is just “a fanatic??” To jail
So few white/white adjacent folk have reckoned with the idea that extremism in opposition to slavery is no vice (to coin a paraphrase), or if they have, simply to disagree and conclude that it is/was a vice. “Oppose slavery sure, but not like that. Civil disagreement™️ with slavery only” or something
Thank you for putting this on my radar screen. I'll be interested to read what he has to say about the 3/5 clause
A lot of his heavy lifting on the 3/5 clause is in the first volume, The Word That Made Us. It’s…fine? He’s not the worst about making excuses for it but he does skirt around the depths of its horror sometimes.
Quite telling that that's the bar. I intend to raise it.
Saw this in the Little Free Library near my house the other day 👍
Where does this guy find the time
If it’s anything like his past stuff, 50% of it is repurposed from prior work.
Reduce, reuse, recycle.