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Kyle Götz @kylegoetz.com

That sounds classist to me, and exactly what I'm railing against. The use of "fan" to describe work that isn't profitable is gross w/o further justification, which is why using it to describe works by fans of an existing property is not. It arises not out of class but out of the concept of a canon.

jul 16, 2025, 3:30 pm • 0 0

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Kaesa @kaesa.bsky.social

I don't think you're actually willing to understand this, but, one last try: fanzines called themselves that. They originated the term. It was not an insult. It is, yes, considered an insult now, mostly by people who think fanfiction is icky girl stuff/too gay/too weird, but it is never a SLUR.

jul 16, 2025, 3:42 pm • 4 0 • view
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Kyle Götz @kylegoetz.com

Me and my fellow white people call each other "white trash." That doesn't make it acceptable for an out-group to refer to novels by white people as "white trash books." It would, in fact, be a slur to do that. (I'm sure you've by now drawn the connection to other slurs used by in- and out-groups.)

jul 16, 2025, 3:59 pm • 1 0 • view
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Kaesa @kaesa.bsky.social

Again, "fanzines" were and ARE called that by the people (the fans!) who make them. Fanzines were put together by people who had the time and disposable income to assemble a physical magazine for fun, not profit. There was no pejorative meaning associated; it's like calling people who knit knitters.

jul 16, 2025, 4:21 pm • 3 0 • view
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Kyle Götz @kylegoetz.com

slur, noun: "an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation" It seems like this is the moment you learn what "slur" means.

jul 16, 2025, 3:55 pm • 0 0 • view