Stephen Manning, this guy’s lawyer, is one of the best in the country. It’s very good news that he’s taken this case.
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Thank God! Hoping for an enormous lawsuit payoff too.
aug 30, 2025, 6:57 pm • 1 1 • view
Good to know he has a good lawyer. U-Visa is very rare. This will mos def be in his favor.
aug 30, 2025, 7:49 pm • 2 0 • view
Aren't all firefighters Emergency Personnel while fighting a fire? Isn't interfering with the duties of emergency personnel a crime?
aug 30, 2025, 10:25 pm • 0 0 • view
Screw the $$, go for title 18 US Criminal Code section 242 and send someone to prison. Folks, **make** your county and city leadership enforce your damn laws. Use your journalists and make noise till they do. www.justice.gov/crt/deprivat...
aug 30, 2025, 9:23 pm • 0 0 • view
Thank you for posting this!
aug 30, 2025, 10:17 pm • 1 0 • view
Their purpose is to spread fear.
aug 30, 2025, 8:05 pm • 0 0 • view
How is it possible that he’s been waiting since 2018 for USCIS to grant his U visa application?
aug 30, 2025, 7:08 pm • 15 1 • view
Because there’s a Congress-imposed limit of 10k visas available per year. Over 100k applicants in line. Families (principal applicant plus relatives) ought to be approved together and not counted separately but (shrug)
aug 30, 2025, 7:20 pm • 20 2 • view
Limits and backlog.
aug 30, 2025, 7:21 pm • 0 0 • view
Given the violation of this firefighter’s rights, does he not have the right to sue those who arrested him?
aug 30, 2025, 7:32 pm • 0 0 • view
If you want to catch a migrant you have to go where they gather.
aug 30, 2025, 9:35 pm • 0 0 • view
Having helped process loads of U visa applications, the 10k limit per year is obscenely low given rates of victimization of immigrants. Also, in years gone by, filing a U visa locked the alien file away in the VSC, making deportation proceedings essentially impossible. WTF
aug 30, 2025, 8:02 pm • 0 0 • view
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aug 30, 2025, 7:12 pm • 24 6 • view
I’m glad to hear that. What an absolute disgrace to arrest a firefighter while they fighting a fire. #ICE
aug 30, 2025, 8:31 pm • 0 0 • view
Stephen is the greatest. 🔥
aug 30, 2025, 9:59 pm • 1 0 • view
These idiots just stumbling around hitting every legal landmine with impunity. What a time line to live in!
aug 31, 2025, 11:24 am • 0 0 • view
The thing that gets me is that someone had to turn him in. I mean, what are the odds?
aug 30, 2025, 7:59 pm • 2 0 • view
Enough is enough of this sh@t heads doing this BS!
aug 30, 2025, 7:37 pm • 0 0 • view
Outstanding news 💪🏽🗞️ First they came for migrants, then immigrants, tourists and then the fighters.... 🙄
aug 30, 2025, 8:55 pm • 0 0 • view
Cruelty is the goal
aug 30, 2025, 7:48 pm • 0 0 • view
Good!
aug 30, 2025, 7:00 pm • 0 1 • view
Or, or and stay with me on this: There are no consequences that matter for these Nazi's and unless you are ready to put them in jail or [REDACTED] then you should be ready for them to walk free and this man to end up in a concentration camp.
aug 30, 2025, 7:13 pm • 0 1 • view
If Trump took a cut from every lawyer that is necessary to fight his lawlessness he would have all the money in the world by now.
aug 30, 2025, 7:18 pm • 0 1 • view
#ImpeachTheRegime p-2025 MUST BE STOPED! #Resistance of this #CriminalRegime #Occupation Release the #Epstein files ALL #EpsteinFiles #EpsteinMaxwell Files #Resist #Impeach #arrest #prosecute #DemocracyMatters #DefeatRussia #SlavaUkraine @electiontruthalliance.org #VerifyTheVote
aug 31, 2025, 2:36 am • 0 0 • view
and there are so many who get nabbed coming out of meeting with the judge, or a scheduled / required update -- and *poof* .. I wish those judges, whomever, would come out roaring in anger telling the thugs -- I just talked to that person, he's fine, he's got another date in xxx time, let him go!
aug 30, 2025, 7:14 pm • 2 1 • view
I hope Trump lives long enough to see Stephen Miller being fucked in the arse by this lawyer.
aug 30, 2025, 8:01 pm • 0 0 • view
Bravo! Good to hear!
aug 30, 2025, 8:45 pm • 0 0 • view
this is history repeating itself, How ignorant must people be to not believe the horrors of the past.
aug 30, 2025, 8:39 pm • 1 0 • view
this case is a good reminder of how complicated immigration status is in this country and the whole “well if youre illegally then you deserve XYZ” formulation is total bullshit.
aug 30, 2025, 7:34 pm • 3 0 • view
Steve Manning has it? He’s in the best possible hands. And….WTAF?
aug 30, 2025, 7:26 pm • 5 0 • view
📌
aug 30, 2025, 7:18 pm • 0 1 • view
Absolutely, having someone like Stephen Manning on your side is a huge advantage. That kind of expertise can really make a difference in a case.
aug 30, 2025, 7:51 pm • 2 0 • view
“After-the-fact justification is a favorite tactic of the present administration. Ask Albrego-Garcia.
aug 30, 2025, 7:51 pm • 1 0 • view
These tormented people must sue the USSA for every cent they can get. I’m sorry for taxpayers, but they’re already been screwed over totally.
aug 30, 2025, 9:35 pm • 0 0 • view
♥️💪🙏
aug 31, 2025, 4:52 pm • 0 0 • view
2 things pop out, the first of course how evil this admin is but how broken the immigration system really is, since it has been 7 years from the granting of the u visa. In that time period the system was unable to finalize permanent residency w/ the job he is doing, and the vetting that is done.
aug 30, 2025, 7:03 pm • 29 3 • view
Yeah. The waiting time is offensive to me. I come to it from the context of "green card slaves" in IT. Only The Worst People™️ benefit from this degree of intentional gov't dysfunction.
aug 30, 2025, 7:54 pm • 6 1 • view
Fantastic.
aug 30, 2025, 7:30 pm • 0 0 • view
ngl I thought this was about Arch
aug 30, 2025, 7:00 pm • 0 1 • view
Arresting people who are protecting our nation from wildfires is consistent with policies designed to burn the entire planet.
aug 30, 2025, 7:27 pm • 9 0 • view
Insult to injury, what’s the status of Washington state’s largest active wildfire in the face of decreased forest management, firefighting resources, etc
aug 30, 2025, 7:10 pm • 3 2 • view
What was ICE doing way out there? Co workers probably called them. Who knows. But a massive waste of tax dollars
aug 30, 2025, 7:34 pm • 2 0 • view
Hopefully this firefighter gets really wealthy from the lawsuits against the demons Homan and Noem.
aug 30, 2025, 7:08 pm • 0 1 • view
Excellent! Thank you to all the lawyers actually standing for the LAW.
aug 30, 2025, 11:53 pm • 1 0 • view
I hope this makes the front page and stays there.
aug 31, 2025, 1:11 am • 0 0 • view
Whomever was the boss of that fire crew should be ashamed of himself. Active fire zone and he let a couple of ICE goons take two of his guys away? Fuck right off with that.
aug 30, 2025, 7:09 pm • 5 2 • view
It's just plain dumb. If you think someone fighting a fire may not be here legally, doesn't it make simple sense to wait until after the fire is out to find out?
aug 30, 2025, 8:07 pm • 0 0 • view
What do you think he should have done instead. Serious question. Hard to imagine being in that situation with no good solution.
aug 30, 2025, 7:13 pm • 4 1 • view
Chase the SOB s. with Ice off the mountain. I lived around loggers who where called up to fire fight & Hotshots. These men & men are dedicted, built like steel, & have a singualr mission. Get in their way & your loaded on the scraper if you in the way to stop a flame. Do the same with ICE.
aug 30, 2025, 8:27 pm • 0 0 • view
I'd take a bullet before I let ICE drag off one of my carriers. Those are his people and he's responsible for making sure they do their jobs and go home at the end of the day. "Everyone here is legal and this is an active fire zone, you need to leave" is the least he could've done.
aug 30, 2025, 7:17 pm • 3 1 • view
I appreciate your position but do you think that shooting you would end the situation? The way they seem to behave, it’s hard to tell.
aug 30, 2025, 7:43 pm • 4 0 • view
Fantastic news!
aug 30, 2025, 8:36 pm • 0 0 • view
so, not the worst of the worst MS13 when he arrived at 4 years old ?
aug 31, 2025, 1:38 am • 0 0 • view
The irony is: we would be much better off deporting and getting rid of the ICE goons than the guy risking his life to put out the fire.
aug 30, 2025, 8:55 pm • 0 0 • view
💙🇺🇸🌊🙋🏻💯🏳️🌈🤞💙
aug 30, 2025, 7:32 pm • 0 0 • view
Notice they aren’t rounding up actual MS13 - that’s too scary.
aug 30, 2025, 8:13 pm • 2 0 • view
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
aug 31, 2025, 12:37 am • 0 0 • view
So glad that there Are good lawyers who will take their cases and make DHS and ICE look like the idiots they are
aug 30, 2025, 8:20 pm • 0 0 • view
Keep in mind, the DHS and DOJ people will lie to justify whatever they want.
aug 30, 2025, 10:22 pm • 0 0 • view
"An illegal after-the-fact attempt at justification" This is Re: the firefighter who was kidnapped from his job as a civil servant of his community
aug 31, 2025, 3:26 pm • 0 0 • view
📌
aug 30, 2025, 8:10 pm • 0 0 • view
And yet they have repeatedly and notoriously abducted people who were awaiting protection based immigration claims
aug 30, 2025, 7:55 pm • 3 0 • view
#Meritocracy #BlameRepublicans #SeeYouInNuremberg #LawlessRegime
aug 30, 2025, 7:18 pm • 0 1 • view
going after people with U visas is nasty business man
aug 30, 2025, 7:00 pm • 85 5 • view
Hey, Josh, I'm another NELA member.
aug 30, 2025, 8:06 pm • 1 0 • view
Watch the admin argue his u-visa is a fraud and again say they should eliminate them.
aug 30, 2025, 7:05 pm • 11 0 • view
What they argue in court aside, I suspect this is what they will say in media.
aug 30, 2025, 7:06 pm • 1 0 • view
Given the timing, likely not a U Visa. Possibly a bona fide determination, possibly still awaiting a bona fide determination given currently backlogs.
aug 30, 2025, 7:02 pm • 31 2 • view
I think they are no longer doing BFD for U visa apps. If someone has one, they have it. If not, no more coming. Hmm. Google failing me (or I’m misremembering). I see June NBC report they’re deporting ppl w BFD. www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...
aug 30, 2025, 7:16 pm • 10 3 • view
One of my clients just got a U BFD. They are still granting them.
aug 30, 2025, 11:30 pm • 2 0 • view
I was under the impression that was about revoking ICE policy requiring them to expedite BFDs for people in detention, but I’m not entirely clear either.
aug 30, 2025, 7:22 pm • 9 0 • view
I was very pleased to hear that Stephen Manning has taken this case. He has a great reputation in Oregon.
aug 30, 2025, 7:55 pm • 0 0 • view
Can the arresting agents be charged for obstructing the emergency service personnel with malicious and willful intent?
aug 30, 2025, 7:22 pm • 2 0 • view
Hoping at least one Manning gets a win this year!
aug 30, 2025, 7:03 pm • 1 1 • view
Can we not overlook the fact that this man's immigration application has been active for SEVEN YEARS?!
aug 31, 2025, 12:40 pm • 0 0 • view
I gave to ask. How did they contact each other? Manning must have contacted the firefighter right? The average Joe doesn’t know who Manning is and could not afford him if they did.
aug 30, 2025, 9:00 pm • 0 0 • view
For various complicated legal reasons, that is unfortunately unlikely. You basically can’t get money damages for a case like this.
aug 30, 2025, 7:00 pm • 144 7 • view
Like with all things Trump and this DOJ, it’s not about the ultimate outcome, it’s about the arrest. These poor men are being held in detention centers and being moved around cut off from their loved ones. Even if they are ultimately freed the damage has been done.
aug 30, 2025, 7:04 pm • 4 0 • view
What can you get? Just un-detained? Which should have been the actual situation?
aug 30, 2025, 7:05 pm • 0 0 • view
Public opinion damages are the real ballgame now anyway
aug 30, 2025, 7:09 pm • 2 0 • view
Any criminal charges for those agents who performed the illegal act? There has to be some way to hold these out of control Ice Agents 😡
aug 30, 2025, 8:24 pm • 0 0 • view
Not even for malicious prosecution?
aug 30, 2025, 7:02 pm • 0 0 • view
Oh, it’s even worse than you think. He definitely doesn’t have the U visa yet, since the waiting time for a U visa application *approved* in 2018 was already around 14 years. It’s been seven years since he *filed* so he *probably* got preliminary approval and deferred action in the last few years.
aug 30, 2025, 7:11 pm • 162 25 • view
Knew I probably got the fine details and nomenclature incorrect. Same concept applies 7 years after granting the application is more than enough time to process it in a working system.
aug 30, 2025, 7:14 pm • 1 0 • view
WTH happened beginning in 2012? No budget?
aug 30, 2025, 9:12 pm • 0 0 • view
Nope, and he’s not being prosecuted, ICE is trying to deport him. And it’s to do with the fact that you generally can’t sue federal law enforcement for civil rights violations like you can sue state law enforcement. There’s no law authorizing federal courts to hear those suits.
aug 30, 2025, 7:13 pm • 98 10 • view
"you generally can’t sue federal law enforcement for civil rights violations like you can sue state law enforcement. There’s no law authorizing federal courts to hear those suits." OK, folks, that goes on the list for the next blue congress.
aug 30, 2025, 8:04 pm • 2 0 • view
Deportation isn’t a prosecution? Weird. I would have thought it was. And if we cannot sue federal law enforcement for civil liberties violations, that seems like a really big problem when they’re the ones violating civil rights. Immigration law has too many loopholes allowing for abuses.
aug 30, 2025, 7:16 pm • 5 1 • view
Leadership and officers are subject to prosecution under Title 18 USC section 242. Cases are too rare but they exist. City attorneys, prosecutors and city and county level need to pursue charges, pressure them. Now is the moment this law was written for. www.justice.gov/crt/deprivat...
aug 30, 2025, 9:30 pm • 2 0 • view
The wording of the statute sure makes it sound like it can be applied to federal law enforcement agencies/officers.
aug 30, 2025, 9:57 pm • 2 0 • view
It does.
aug 31, 2025, 6:35 am • 0 0 • view
god we need to fix that (add it to the TODO pile)
aug 30, 2025, 7:15 pm • 5 0 • view
As with Kilmar Garcia & all those kidnapped, deprived of due process & illegally "sentenced" to CECOT... While Judge ordered planes NOT leave US, SCROTUS affirmed he be returned to US & we were all gaslighted, told LIES of supposed "deportation" all throughout...
aug 30, 2025, 9:18 pm • 0 0 • view
I endorse donating to Innovation Law Lab. I’ve worked with them a number of times over the years, they’re legit.
aug 30, 2025, 7:14 pm • 123 34 • view
Yes, and I know alumni from my law school who have fellowships with ILL to represent immigrants. They truly are very reputable & highly regarded.
aug 30, 2025, 7:20 pm • 5 0 • view
That’s awesome!
aug 30, 2025, 7:21 pm • 2 0 • view
Processing times just for a “bona fide determination* were already 3-5 years in 2018. COVID exacerbated delays. He *probably* passed that stage already, but no guarantee. *USCIS reviewing the application and confirming you qualify, despite a multi-decade delay for the visa to become available.
aug 30, 2025, 7:18 pm • 129 14 • view
Would like to say that you just answering all of our rando questions seriously is a huge public service. Thank you.
aug 30, 2025, 7:21 pm • 6 0 • view
My pleasure!
aug 30, 2025, 7:22 pm • 6 0 • view
Nope, immigration enforcement is civil law enforcement, not criminal law enforcement (prosecutions). And yes, the inability to sue federal law enforcement to the same extent as state and local law enforcement is a big problem. Look up “Bivens.”
aug 30, 2025, 7:19 pm • 131 15 • view
See also, why the 6th amendment doesn't guarantee you an attorney in immigration court.
aug 30, 2025, 8:07 pm • 1 0 • view
By any chance, does this guy have (or had) DACA status?
aug 30, 2025, 7:56 pm • 0 0 • view
Okay so no going after the agencies. What about suing the individuals for torts - or is that treated the same since it was in performance of their official duties? *goes to look up Bivens*
aug 30, 2025, 7:23 pm • 12 0 • view
Nevermind, have just read a summary of Bivens. I get it now. Congress needs to set some boundaries around this issue.
aug 30, 2025, 7:25 pm • 5 0 • view
Love to command rights that have no remedies. Very fun.
aug 30, 2025, 9:09 pm • 1 0 • view
There is the Federal Tort Claims Act! But it’s a far more limited remedy.
aug 30, 2025, 7:26 pm • 16 1 • view
That doesn’t seem to be much help since it doesn’t apply to intentional torts, and most of what these jerks are doing is definitely intentional. It’s like a whole big gap in the system where all of this lives, and that’s…well, that’s just wild af
aug 30, 2025, 7:35 pm • 9 0 • view