I used the word "owed" because I was quoting the OP. The point I was making was "everyone *deserves* love", which shouldn't be a controversial statement.
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'If we got what we deserved, we'd starve.' - Quentin Crisp
aug 2, 2025, 6:45 pm • 10 0 • view
But you didn’t say “deserves” you said “owed”. You can’t just pretend you said something you didn’t then act all high and mighty
aug 3, 2025, 9:51 pm • 21 0 • view
1. You said owed, yes you did. 2. Not everyone ‘deserves love.’ That’s the same incel argument What would you do to ensure everyone got this ‘love?’ Force women to have sex with men they where not attracted to? Force them to have relationships with men?
aug 4, 2025, 8:19 am • 21 0 • view
Every child deserves parental love. And every human deserves the basic sort of love that means we all get our biological needs met. But romantic love and friendship are supposed to be earned. For thousands of years, women have been forced to provide "love" without it being earned but we're done.
aug 14, 2025, 4:52 pm • 9 0 • view
Men who demand that women continue providing our sexual, mental, emotional, and physical labor to them without first making sure they are worthy of that labor are participating in the oppression of women. Stop expecting us to compensate for your dysfunction.
aug 14, 2025, 4:52 pm • 3 0 • view
changing that word seems rather important
aug 14, 2025, 5:22 pm • 2 0 • view
aug 14, 2025, 4:35 pm • 3 0 • view
Hitler deserved love?
aug 16, 2025, 3:07 pm • 0 0 • view
not everyone deserves love, no one 'deserves' love, that's a weird thing to say.
aug 14, 2025, 3:38 pm • 7 0 • view
I just assume anyone saying stuff like this is a repulsive freak who treats women badly and also believes the only women good enough for them are supermodels.
aug 14, 2025, 3:59 pm • 4 0 • view
You not only said "owed" you said "romantic love". Do you genuinely believe everyone *deserves* romantic love, even if they are abusive of everyone who comes near them?
aug 14, 2025, 5:48 pm • 6 0 • view
People are raised on the nice idea that everyone deserves happiness and utterly fail to understand that’s still conditional on not being an entitled asshole.
aug 4, 2025, 9:21 am • 16 0 • view
“The privilege of being socially acceptable” is also hilarious because it suggests you just have to reach some invisible universal standard and be bequeathed a partner like a videogame character levelling up.
aug 4, 2025, 9:26 am • 13 0 • view
There was a thing in incel circles when I ran with them, not sure if it still is or not, the 6 6s - you have to make at least 6 figures, be at least 6' tall, drive one of these 6 luxury car brands, I don't remember the rest - to have a chance at getting laid.
aug 14, 2025, 2:25 pm • 2 0 • view
The first time I got laid I was not six feet tall.... In fact, alllll of the times I got laid I was not six feet tall. And I've never made six figures. Incels need to step away from the keyboard.
aug 14, 2025, 7:28 pm • 0 0 • view
Adding: I wasn't six feet tall because I ended up being 5 foot 9. But, I'm funny. I'm curious. I'm kind. That goes a long way.
aug 14, 2025, 7:29 pm • 0 0 • view
It was predicated on the idea that *of course* women would only go for the most successful guys around, leaving none for anyone else, but it's easily debunked if you get your head out of your ass and open your ears. Radicalization by amping up peoples' self-hatred.
aug 14, 2025, 2:26 pm • 7 0 • view
As a woman, this argument has always baffled me. I don't know a single woman with a guy who fits that description, nor do I know any who are looking for a guy like that. And I know many women who are happily in relationships with men. I'm glad you got out.
aug 14, 2025, 4:55 pm • 4 0 • view
There are some people (I am one) who are attracted to simple Just-So stories asserting universal rules of human behavior. If someone hasn't learned that the world is messier than that, they can be persuaded of many untrue things. I'm glad I got out too.
aug 14, 2025, 5:00 pm • 3 0 • view
I am also one of those people. It's been hard learning to live in nuance and "gray" areas...I like things to be cut-and-dried or one-size-fits-all. My poison was religion.
aug 14, 2025, 5:03 pm • 2 0 • view
But I just realized you said "get laid" and I said "relationship"...and yeah, if a guy is ONLY looking to get laid, all those 6s definitely help your chances. It's not gonna fix the loneliness though...just improve your chances of one night stands.
aug 14, 2025, 5:00 pm • 2 0 • view
Why would everyone “deserve” romantic love? Why would you be entitled to another person’s body simply because you exist?
aug 14, 2025, 3:38 pm • 4 0 • view
those two words are not synonyms
aug 14, 2025, 3:07 pm • 22 0 • view
Actually if you fumble somebody it’s your own fault.
aug 14, 2025, 6:23 pm • 1 0 • view
I can think of plenty of people who don't *deserve* love
aug 2, 2025, 6:51 pm • 27 0 • view
But it's not a true statement though. A lot of people, especially scum like you, don't deserve that.
aug 2, 2025, 6:50 pm • 7 0 • view
It might have been clearer to just say that instead of playing the aggrieved victim. Because owed and deserve are two different words with significantly different meanings
aug 14, 2025, 4:39 pm • 2 0 • view
it would have been clear, which is why he used the terminology he meant, and that people were directly responding to bad faith arguments and unreliable narration are certainly part of *why* he's not finding love
aug 14, 2025, 6:47 pm • 1 0 • view
Can’t believe you’re saying hitler was deserving of love!! Do you love hitler??
aug 2, 2025, 6:51 pm • 7 0 • view
How do we make that work? How do we redistribute love if everyone "deserves" it? Be specific, please, if you think it shouldn't be a controversial statement.
aug 14, 2025, 2:21 pm • 1 0 • view