There's "happy accident" and then there's "whatever the fuck this is". It's a no from me. If you're asking a machine to draw from its averages, you're giving up your voice. All those "influences" stated on band recruitment? This is saying "I didn't bother".

(this is massively inaccurate and I didn't get it until the second article, you're right)

As opposed to this, which sets my teeth on edge but triggered my original 🤔 pondering apnews.com/article/arti...

As a result of this I finally went and listened to a Velvet Sundown track. If I'd have seen that performed live I'd have loved it. But knowing what we know now it's like bursting into tears at a friend lying about having a terminal disease. Utterly inauthentic. A duping.

And worse, an opportunity cost for an authentic voice.

I suppose we've all learned to recognise people peddling easy sells over the voices of artists though. There have always been your cynicals. This is just Stock Aitken and Waterman with a prompt box, the barrier to entry removed, and compounding negative externalities.

And I suppose the rise of AI boyfriend indicates there are people more than happy to be lied to. Robosexuals.

Good band name

"I have so little confidence in myself I'm happy to ask for a simulacrum from a company that will jack up its prices for compute." Fuck that. This guy should change his artist name to Spokesperson.

Sampling is one thing. It's creation as tribute, a direct application of taste. This isn't.This is taking pre-digested, blended chyme from an actor with no taste and removing the struggle inherent to art. It is an abomination. It is the very opposite of a human speaking their truth to another human.

Not sure that’s a hugely accurate depiction of how Actress worked with AI *in 2019*.

The principle applies even if the bubble wasn't bursting then. No time for ML in this stuff. It's anathema to music.

Okie doke. I don’t agree 100% because that’s a line people have taken with electronic musicians for decades, it’s too elitist for me. In case you’re interested: www.interviewmagazine.com/music/electr...

Ok that's a good article. That's a proper artist's voice. I get ultra-defensive about this because of things like Suno. Because of people who want cachet without any artistic input, without putting in any hours. As an accessory.

And I get pretty defensive about artists having their work devalued to the extent that the primary beneficiary is a tech company. Which is not what this is, so I apologise for the hysteria, while acknowledging there still is a thing to be defended, that requires defending.

I figured you’d like it! And I know why you’d get defensive, I get it. There’s a difference between ascribing your creativity to a commodity’s output and exploring a technology to see how it affects your composition.

Similarly there are people who said Burroughs’s cut-up technique wasn’t writing, but they’re wrong.

Dad was a drummer, me too, and he had similar thoughts about sampling. I definitely *was* elitist about that, but having come to electronic music later than most, I ended up at "so long as it moves you". Which I am now having to refine to "as long as you were moved by intent"

As long as somebody was trying to speak to you. If it's the average of the unpaid and it's to the benefit of capital... But seems like he was training on his own data, which is not the impression you get from the first article. "AI" is overloaded.