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elmolake @elmo2.bsky.social

the quickest way to end the conflict is for Hamas to negotiate an end to the war, not another history lesson, or its Israel won't let them end the war, returning the hostages and laying down weapons is all Hamas has to do for the end to the war, its never the easy answer with people

sep 1, 2025, 1:55 pm • 1 0

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Caravelle @caravellin.bsky.social

Clearly it's not as Hamas keeps expressing willingness to negotiate an end to the conflict and Israel is refusing to enter negotiations. Israel literally ended the previous ceasefire in order to avoid starting the previously-agreed upon phase 2 that involved having negotiations to end the war.

sep 1, 2025, 2:01 pm • 1 0 • view
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Caravelle @caravellin.bsky.social

"The quickest way to end the conflict" literally why do you think that. What knowledge allows you to say this with such certainty. I've given you (several times now) reasons to believe that statement is false. You've given no reason to think it's true. Do you have reasons for your beliefs?

sep 1, 2025, 2:03 pm • 0 0 • view
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elmolake @elmo2.bsky.social

because it is looking us the face, they have hostages, they were the aggressor who started the conflict and now have no way of militarily winning, if they value the health of the population, the right thing would be to end the war

sep 1, 2025, 2:09 pm • 0 0 • view
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Caravelle @caravellin.bsky.social

"They were the aggressor who started the conflict"? Why are you giving a history lesson instead of facts?

sep 1, 2025, 2:18 pm • 0 0 • view
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elmolake @elmo2.bsky.social

the obvious is what started it, not years of bad Israel, or wars with Israel that neighbors lost, its not that, its a group came over the border and killed and mutilated and took hostages, and the aggrieved nation responded, the guys who came over the border are the aggressors

sep 1, 2025, 2:25 pm • 0 0 • view
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Caravelle @caravellin.bsky.social

Wow you're really into this history lesson aren't you. Okay then go on - why is it "obvious" it's not "years of bad Israel" that started it? Israel kills, mutilates and takes hostages too - and also occupies, and blockades, and destroys. Why are you defending one side here?

sep 1, 2025, 2:29 pm • 0 0 • view
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elmolake @elmo2.bsky.social

you want to make it Israel bad guy, and in that way justify Hamas and its terrorism, but that is not solving the current situation, nor does it speak to it, the event exists, it happened, an attack and a response, a situation where suffering can be relieved,

sep 1, 2025, 2:33 pm • 1 0 • view
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Caravelle @caravellin.bsky.social

Israel committing genocide doesn't justify terrorism IMO. Would it justify it for you?

sep 1, 2025, 2:55 pm • 0 0 • view
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elmolake @elmo2.bsky.social

all you see is genocide, its the liberal politically correct word of the moment, no one to see an end to suffering, they want to see why it is right to blame Israel, why they are getting what they deserve, they essentially want to justify and extend a legacy of hate

sep 1, 2025, 4:01 pm • 0 0 • view
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Caravelle @caravellin.bsky.social

No it's a serious accusation being made by the people & organizations generally tasked to make this kind of accusation, and being brought in the venues intended to handle such accusations.

sep 3, 2025, 6:51 am • 0 0 • view
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elmolake @elmo2.bsky.social

if there was a willingness to end the conflict all the hostages would have been offered, they won't even return dead bodies freely, arguing he said she said about negotiations we are not privy to goes nowhere

sep 1, 2025, 2:05 pm • 0 0 • view
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Caravelle @caravellin.bsky.social

"Offering all the hostages" isn't "negotiations", it's "offering all the hostages". Why are you using the word "negotiations" when it's not the word you mean?

sep 1, 2025, 2:14 pm • 0 0 • view
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elmolake @elmo2.bsky.social

the details of how they would surrender, safe passage, the return of hostages etc is negotiations

sep 1, 2025, 2:17 pm • 0 0 • view
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Caravelle @caravellin.bsky.social

You don't use a generic word when you actually mean a very specific subset of the generic domain & exclude the whole rest of the domain. So that doesn't answer my question of why you say "negotiate" when you mean "returning the hostages" - let alone now you actually reveal you meant "surrender"

sep 1, 2025, 2:22 pm • 0 0 • view
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elmolake @elmo2.bsky.social

of course its surrender, its surrender because fighting does not help the people you say you want to help, its simple, and to do that and to insure the survival of your own forces you negotiate the particulars, its common sense, lost because its all about blaming not solving with most peo[ple

sep 1, 2025, 2:30 pm • 0 0 • view
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Caravelle @caravellin.bsky.social

Might Israel kill half of Gaza's population if Hamas doesn't surrender?

sep 1, 2025, 2:50 pm • 1 0 • view
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elmolake @elmo2.bsky.social

why are pushing for Hamas to surrender if you believe this

sep 1, 2025, 4:03 pm • 1 0 • view
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Caravelle @caravellin.bsky.social

I don't believe this, "Hamas surrendering is what will stop this" is your thing, I'm just trying to better understand what you believe.

sep 3, 2025, 6:49 am • 0 0 • view
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elmolake @elmo2.bsky.social

they won't

sep 1, 2025, 4:02 pm • 0 0 • view
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Caravelle @caravellin.bsky.social

Why do you think they won't? Don't countries "do what they think they have to do to win" or however it was you put it?

sep 3, 2025, 6:47 am • 0 0 • view