leftists love to scold libs for not embracing diversity of tactics; this is often fair, but it is rarely paired with an embrace of cringe lib shit, which is also diversity of tactics!!!!
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"I want to wear a crocheted vagina suit and throw molotov cocktails" should definitely be a thing. If you can't burn down patriarchy while having a laugh, then what the fuck are you doing?
apr 6, 2025, 4:21 pm • 7 1 • view
Sounds like something out of Situationists International
apr 6, 2025, 4:37 pm • 1 1 • view
It’s honestly challenging to embrace “cringe lib shit” as a leftist solely because such a large proportion of their rhetoric punches left
apr 6, 2025, 4:28 pm • 6 0 • view
And so much of leftist rhetoric punches at liberals. Chicken or egg, who's to decide who's at fault and it almost doesn't even matter anymore who started it. But I think both factions are gonna have to eat some words cause fascists absolutely exploit division, and we all need to learn to focus fire
apr 6, 2025, 5:41 pm • 6 0 • view
Honestly the most cringe part of yesterday's demonstration here was the black bloc dude's speech. (and that's fine!)
apr 6, 2025, 4:04 pm • 6 0 • view
(he spoke very stridently about "forces that would CLEAVE us in TWAIN" and maybe possibly save that for the Marxist poetry slam, my guy)
apr 6, 2025, 4:10 pm • 6 0 • view
Yup that's fine! We dont actually have to agree with each other all the time. We can find each other cringe or strident. We are still allies, at the end of the day.
apr 6, 2025, 6:49 pm • 0 0 • view
I feel like the black bloc has a place, but almost by definition, it needs to be a small minority
apr 6, 2025, 4:05 pm • 5 0 • view
yeah its always good to have a bunch of 20yos in bandanas and hoodies just kinda milling around in case the groyper and proud boy types try to get clever. most of the time they will just start yelling at them when they get close and encircling them till the crawl away
apr 6, 2025, 4:09 pm • 12 0 • view
This makes a ton of sense, tbh. People are often guilty of liking a particular strategy, but then hating a strategy that is essentially the same when employed by someone they find contemptable.
apr 6, 2025, 4:46 pm • 6 0 • view
Some actions really affect me and affect me for years down the line. The smash all the bus stops in response to Trump winning in 2017 was in particular terrible cause yeah those did not get instantly fixed and some stops were removed.
apr 6, 2025, 5:30 pm • 2 0 • view
I have to admit I’ve been guilty. If you are talking specifically about Having to hear the song “we shall overcome” get croaked out at each protest I go to.
apr 6, 2025, 11:08 pm • 0 0 • view
I’m just now hearing mass peaceful protest characterized as “cringe lib shit” but at first blush it doesn’t exactly scream let’s embrace each other’s tactics.
apr 6, 2025, 5:45 pm • 2 0 • view
so, truthfully asking here, did pussy hats do anything? i see the pussy hat women's march like, im worried it would have sapped energy that could have been used in a more consturctive fashion. but maybe someone participating in that wasn't going to accomplish anything anyway. did it do anything?
apr 7, 2025, 5:14 am • 0 0 • view
Yeah, the pink hats provided visual punch to the crowd pictures from the marches. They were easy to make - I just rerouted my crafting time to them and churned out like a dozen in a few weeks.
apr 8, 2025, 3:14 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes. Remember MeToo? It started women talking to other women about what had happened to them, and led to the imprisonment and firing of some truly dreadful sex offenders. Before that you were told to just suck it up because there is nothing you could do.
apr 7, 2025, 6:31 pm • 0 0 • view
uhh so my understanding is #MeToo didn't really kick off until about 9 months later when an actress accused Weinstein, and then suggested on twitter women should start writing "Me too"
apr 7, 2025, 7:26 pm • 0 0 • view
Women were angered by the Trump Access Hollywood tape, and more when Trump was elected. Thus, the march. They also started sharing more about their experiences after the tape. MeToo wasn’t started by an actress after the marches; she amplified an educational campaign by a New York activist.
apr 7, 2025, 9:36 pm • 0 0 • view
Leftists love to scold libs more than they love winning elections.
apr 6, 2025, 4:07 pm • 18 0 • view
hi, i voted for kamala even though she gave me like dozens of reasons not to. could y'all libs like examine mainstream democrats and their wishy-washy stand-for-nothing weak-sauce positions, and maybe tell them to get their shit together?
apr 7, 2025, 5:17 am • 0 0 • view
She had better positions than any republican, so position is clearly not what voters actually care about.
apr 7, 2025, 5:51 am • 0 0 • view
if her positions were so great, can you explain why Muslims in Michigan, traditionally a strong Dem vote block, voted against her?
apr 7, 2025, 5:56 am • 1 0 • view
I can, but you wouldn’t like or accept the answer, so I won’t. Instead those people can sit back and watch the consequences of that vote along with the rest of us and we’ll see if any of them learn anything.
apr 7, 2025, 12:04 pm • 0 0 • view
IDK what answer you have, because if it isn't the following two answers, you're in denial 1: Campaigning with Dick Cheney himself probably didn't resonate with Muslims, after the whole Iraq War thing 2: "the other guy will genocide Gaza harder than me" probably didn't resonate with them either.
apr 7, 2025, 2:29 pm • 0 0 • view
Yeah, see that’s a false dichotomy. Not interested in playing that game. Somehow I think I’ll sleep just fine with you having concluded that I’m in denial.
apr 7, 2025, 2:40 pm • 0 0 • view
your strat didnt work and trump is, unfortunately, president
apr 7, 2025, 2:44 pm • 0 0 • view
Is he? I hadn’t noticed.
apr 7, 2025, 2:49 pm • 0 0 • view
And vice versa
apr 6, 2025, 4:15 pm • 15 0 • view
At least we show up to vote.
apr 6, 2025, 4:21 pm • 9 0 • view
Who are you proud to blindly vote for? Joe Biden, the vain octogenarian who refused to meet the moment of challenging fascism head on? The countless senators confirming Trump’s cabinet? The entire party, that embraced genocide and shunned marginalized communities?
apr 6, 2025, 4:31 pm • 6 0 • view
I don’t do interviews.
apr 6, 2025, 4:32 pm • 14 0 • view
Nobody wants to interview you dawg 😭
apr 6, 2025, 4:33 pm • 4 0 • view
You literally posted a list of questions.
apr 6, 2025, 4:33 pm • 18 0 • view
Alrighty enjoy feeling morally superior for supporting the neoliberal regime that gave fascism the keys to the kingdom dawg
apr 6, 2025, 4:36 pm • 3 0 • view
He says without a hint of irony or self-awareness.
apr 6, 2025, 4:44 pm • 9 0 • view
1) *she 2) there is no leftist institutional power in this country, you’re blaming the progressives with almost zero electoral representation for the failures of our electoral system
apr 6, 2025, 4:47 pm • 6 0 • view
ask yourself this sincerely: is this post helping anything, or is it making you feel good?
apr 6, 2025, 4:24 pm • 7 0 • view
I don’t take orders from tankies.
apr 6, 2025, 4:25 pm • 3 0 • view
I am not ordering you to do anything. Just reflect for a moment: is this kind of post helping further your cause in any way? Or are you posting it to make yourself feel good, and becoming angry because you know it does not?
apr 6, 2025, 4:27 pm • 10 0 • view
You’re literally telling me what to do.
apr 6, 2025, 6:02 pm • 0 0 • view
Hi Sergey, was just swinging by and couldn't help but notice that you didn't answer the simple question.
apr 6, 2025, 8:34 pm • 3 0 • view
Cool story bro.
apr 6, 2025, 8:38 pm • 0 0 • view
Thank you for proving my point
apr 6, 2025, 4:25 pm • 6 0 • view
Fuck off tankie.
apr 6, 2025, 4:25 pm • 5 0 • view
“Leftists love to scold libs” *immediately starts insulting leftists*
apr 6, 2025, 4:31 pm • 7 0 • view
Snowflakes gonna snowflake 🤷♂️
apr 6, 2025, 4:33 pm • 1 0 • view
you’re covering yourself in glory here chief
apr 6, 2025, 4:33 pm • 5 0 • view
Big if true.
apr 6, 2025, 4:34 pm • 0 0 • view
I’m choosing to believe this is a bot now
apr 6, 2025, 4:34 pm • 6 0 • view
Don’t stop believing. Hold on to that feeling people.
apr 6, 2025, 4:35 pm • 1 0 • view
You keep using that word… I do not think it means what you think it means.
apr 6, 2025, 4:27 pm • 4 0 • view
If I cared about your opinion, I’d ask you for it.
apr 6, 2025, 4:28 pm • 2 0 • view
Do you ever think about how American "melting pot" culture intentionally suppresses traditional "sense of belonging" relationships in favor of "belonging" to groups that favor capitalist exploitation e.g. football teams megachurches Wal-Mart motivational cheer MAGA "work is like family"
apr 6, 2025, 4:10 pm • 2 0 • view
That "rarely" feels off to me. I don't think it's usually the case that non-violent tactics are not embraced by the black bloc or leftists or whatever. I can see viewing nonviolence as insufficient for some cases, but useless or outright counterproductive? Nah, that smells like a rat.
apr 6, 2025, 5:01 pm • 0 0 • view
Oh I have totally been seeing people saying things like that. Though I'm convinced a non zero number of them are cops or their paid agitators.
apr 6, 2025, 6:35 pm • 2 0 • view
Excellent post
apr 6, 2025, 6:03 pm • 0 0 • view
the ol "diversity of tactics" card is something people pull out when they've given up. they have given up on getting everyone on the same page to work towards a common goal. it is the language used by wreckers.
apr 6, 2025, 7:26 pm • 0 0 • view
traditional protest tacticts adopted by mainstream lib orgs don't seem to accomplish political change making politicians have bad days seems to be more effective. thats a very broad concept. a bad day can mean 7000 phone calls or getting yelled at on the street or having your fundraiser shut down
apr 7, 2025, 5:27 am • 0 0 • view
apr 7, 2025, 5:10 pm • 1 0 • view
The harm done by fascist regimes is as real and true as anything on earth. And yet, the regimes themselves are fragile structures. They are made of smoke and mirrors. They are held together with chewing gum and bailing wire. We can bring them down with actions that reveal their fragility.
apr 10, 2025, 3:17 pm • 1 0 • view
My mom is extremely cringe, and she was out yesterday. And then I remember, she was on a mission trip to Ukraine in 2014 and attended Maidan in a prayer tent, not far from where people were being shot from rooftops days later. Cringe can help.
apr 6, 2025, 4:04 pm • 14 0 • view
"cringe" is just another word for "intolerable sincerity"
apr 6, 2025, 6:38 pm • 5 1 • view
i.e. a level of sincerity that's personally intolerable to the speaker
apr 6, 2025, 6:39 pm • 3 0 • view
People who refuse to cooperate with normie libs have the same energy as Third Period Stalinists in Germany who denounced SocDems as "social fascists." They live in their own imaginary accelerationist world.
apr 6, 2025, 5:40 pm • 5 0 • view
Boy are there a lot of shit-stirring bots on here this weekend trying to cause friction between left vs. lib, big protests vs direct action etc. We need a popular front with big numbers! Don't let them divide us. We should be fighting fascism, not each other.
apr 6, 2025, 4:42 pm • 15 0 • view
Look at the people who swept this crew of ghouls into power. Just in the J6 mob you had mask and ziptie dudes, confused but angry grandparents, the shirtless shaman dude with the hat.
apr 6, 2025, 4:05 pm • 5 0 • view
anyways if you want one single takeaway from sarah's international observations on protest: a functional opposition party is the best fucking tactic among the diversity of tactics I've seen so far
apr 6, 2025, 4:04 pm • 1,771 192 • view
Also, your average Korean students/workers are more militant than most Americans and have within the living memory of older generations real experiences with mass police/Army violence we do not. Mass discipline of huge crowds in a US context would be truly threatening and take mass organizing.
apr 6, 2025, 5:38 pm • 7 0 • view
I’m sure someone has made this point already but it bears repeating: in the U.S. (although not just here) mainstream media coverage often ignores civil disobedience unless it’s got arrests, property damage, or someone gets hurt.
apr 7, 2025, 2:02 am • 3 0 • view
Dang. Can we, like, import one of those?
apr 6, 2025, 5:23 pm • 0 0 • view
Where can we get one of those?
apr 6, 2025, 4:26 pm • 6 0 • view
I wish we had one of those in the US
apr 6, 2025, 6:05 pm • 5 0 • view
The KKK in the post WWII-era through the Civil Rights era was hampered and slowed not just by anti racist actions and marches but by massive FBI operations - some illegal like COINTELPRO as well as lawsuits from civil rights orgs. The mockery and ridicule of shows like All in the Family also.
apr 6, 2025, 5:54 pm • 1 0 • view
Coalition, baby. The left and center coming together is what defeats the far right. Get behind it.
apr 6, 2025, 4:39 pm • 13 2 • view
Damn that would be nice
apr 6, 2025, 4:14 pm • 35 0 • view
too bad there is no opposing party currently
apr 6, 2025, 4:16 pm • 6 0 • view
An election consequence. If people want a functioning opposition party, they have to vote to give them power.
apr 6, 2025, 5:31 pm • 6 0 • view
unfortunately I can't agree. it is not because of a lack of votes that there is no opposition, but that this empty husk of a party is too busy "reaching across the aisle" and co-signing fascist policy to do any meaningful opposing, let alone resistance
apr 6, 2025, 5:42 pm • 5 0 • view
Do you even follow Dems? They had amendments after amendments to mitigate the harm caused by the GOP bill & all were voted down because the Dems don't have the votes. And yes, they'll need to get bipartisan support if they want those amendments passed. They need min 4 in the Senate, 6 in the House.
apr 6, 2025, 5:47 pm • 7 0 • view
Have you noticed what they do when they have the majority? They then find tricks and excuses to not do the things needed by ordinary people. If they did the work when they have the majority then they would keep that majority much more of the time and could thwart the Trumps when needed.
apr 6, 2025, 11:52 pm • 2 0 • view
No I have not noticed because Dems rarely get majority for long and when they do, they try to get as much legislation passed. ACA is one example. The Infrastructure Bill is another. Some of the Dems who voted for ACA actually lost their seats because voters did not show up in the midterms.
apr 7, 2025, 12:20 am • 1 0 • view
They don’t try to get as much legislation passed as they can. They could use the budget reconciliation process to do more but instead pretend that the parliamentarian prevents them. And they could bring maximum pressure on those last couple of holdout votes but instead use them as an excuse.
apr 7, 2025, 12:26 am • 2 0 • view
It just kept happening time and time again.
apr 7, 2025, 5:06 pm • 0 0 • view
Manchin & Sinema were not going to budge. Because there will always be Dems who'll only vote 50-60% of the time with the party (still better than 0%), it is in the voters interest to bring in more Dems. But not the likes of Fetterman or Sinema -- conservatives in progressive/leftist clothing.
apr 7, 2025, 5:18 pm • 0 0 • view
Then the party should have ejected them from committee positions and done everything they could to replace them. Primary them and fund their primary opponent to the max. But the Party doesn't do that, instead they apply those tactics only to the Congressional candidates who are to the left.
apr 7, 2025, 5:37 pm • 1 0 • view
sure, but if they had a majority they wouldn't be the opposition now, would they? I wish I could have your optimism, but a large number of the top dems like schumer dont take the opportunities of actualy being an opposition. like what is this crap? not to mention harris promising rep cabinet members
apr 6, 2025, 7:19 pm • 0 0 • view
Dems themselves are a mixed bag, some good some bad. However unified leadership in opposition to the GOP. The Cloture bill didn't need to be passed, the GOP didn't have enough votes to guarentee it. We could have turned the GOP tactic to hold the government hostage back at them if Schumer wasn't ass
apr 6, 2025, 6:17 pm • 4 0 • view
*unified leadership in opposition to the GOP is missing
apr 6, 2025, 6:17 pm • 1 0 • view
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apr 7, 2025, 10:30 am • 0 0 • view
I feel like you are inciting people to punch Chuck Schumer in the nads. It would be *wrong*! It would feel so so good to punch Chuck Schumer in the nads, but you must not!
apr 6, 2025, 5:50 pm • 0 0 • view
Our diversity is our strength; being able to turn that info unity is how we get empowered. In the #Disability community, we have many different members w varied experiences, but we unite to fight! (paraphrased Speaker Emerita Pelosi; exact quote is “Diversity is our strength; unity is our power). 💙
apr 7, 2025, 3:05 pm • 0 0 • view
But US has built a political system (with good reason) that prevents such an organized party from emerging in the electoral space.
apr 6, 2025, 5:40 pm • 0 0 • view
Hot damn, an opposition party that is both functional and actually standing in opposition would rule.
apr 6, 2025, 4:43 pm • 121 4 • view
Honestly, I truly believe this is how simple it really is. Speaking truth to power cuts through political divides. I think we'd find a lot of people falling back into the Dem camp if they actually grew a political spine.
apr 6, 2025, 5:24 pm • 48 0 • view
There are structural things preventing them from doing that, is the problem. Otherwise, if we’re to believe the premise that “Competition breeds innovation” to any extent whatsoever, they would’ve done it already.
apr 6, 2025, 8:36 pm • 3 0 • view
If moving things follow the path of least resistance, there must be a reason WHY the path that naturally offers the least resistance is eschewed for a path filled to the brim with the shit.
apr 6, 2025, 8:38 pm • 1 0 • view
Not going to happen with the Democrats. 85% are bought out by corporate PACs. We have to do this ourselves; open.substack.com/pub/peoplesp...
apr 6, 2025, 5:52 pm • 3 0 • view
By standing do you mean getting military leadership to defect? Because now with the IEEPA enacted and wartime powers dictator capacities hugely expanded. Look at what wartime presidents can do historically and in the IEEPA. All libs could be considered insurrectionists, dealt with without courts.
apr 7, 2025, 1:44 am • 0 0 • view
Its gonna take al sorts of protestors doing their role. Yesterday was more 'entry level' with retirees and families. We will need civil disobedience folk & direct action. But yesterday wasnt that.
apr 6, 2025, 4:18 pm • 29 1 • view
At *least* one!
apr 6, 2025, 4:36 pm • 1 0 • view
Hm. I thought this thread was in favor of diversity of tactics, but it ends by signaling the superiority of one specific tactic over others. Wonder what ideological work that rhetorical tension is doing.
apr 6, 2025, 9:48 pm • 0 0 • view
*Curb Your Enthusiasm theme starts playing*
apr 7, 2025, 6:01 pm • 0 0 • view