Okay but have you considered the possibility of was a time traveler signing his best friend’s birthday book? Checkmate libs

Same time traveler that went to 1963 Hawaii to post the birth notice in the paper.

And plant the phony long-form birth certificate

Calling Joy Reid’s IT guys to weigh in

Biden time traveled like combo Capt America and Terminator back to 1980s with nothing but double scooped waffle cone and his trusty autopen.

If the book was found & processed by the FBI when they raided his homes, then they have direct evidence in their files that this book existed & what it contained at that time.

gonna need a bondage expert at the daily wire to examine the spine and confirm it is 20 years old

Obama and his time machine strike again!

especially fun as the q clock devotees are still working to convince folks that trump himself has/had time travel access

oh hell yeah I love this shit

If it looks a little different than normal, it's because he was trying to make it serve as the pubic hair in the drawing

I’m generally skeptical of handwriting analysis, but these are from the same person. Come on, man.

Inference is always invalid, thus we cannot conclude Donald penned this letter in a bound book from decades ago without seeing him do it.

I have joked today that he is busy workshopping a brand new signature today, and once he has it mastered he will attempt to gaslight the entire world into believing it was always his signature and these other ones are phony, and his drones will believe it without question

...Until a day or so later, when he goes back to his original signature, because his brain is a rotten cabbage and he lacks object permanence.

Oh they’ll autopen that signature and put it on a stamp to assist him

I have a feeling he'd find *some* way to fuck that up.

LOLOLOL

Their only defense is plausible deniability, on all things.

This industry is so hemmed in by its own self-imposed rules. It's wild!

did nobody want to put their name on this one

Looks pretty obvious to me.

WaPo deserves death. This is disgusting.

geez does Bezos have more skeletons in his closet than we realized?

He did marry one, but with more plastic than the Home Depot 12 foot skeleton

Did the experts admit they couldn't be sure it was Trump's signature because handwriting analysis is fkn fake?

I bet it was really signed by John Barron

Somebody is still flogging this? Who's this one from?

do they advance an alternate theory because i cant think of one

Hey my signature has been forged countless times in birthday cards of people that I am close friends with and am seen with all the time, it's just a thing that happens.

Thank you!!! I thought I was the only guy that constantly was having his signature forged in all his bestest buddy's b-day cards!!! Now that I know there's someone else out there that knows my pain... I can't, it's all just..

Studied graphology. It’s his signature.

Test the ink . Donnie would have had a fav pen/marker he used on all signatures

Apples to apples.

OF COURSE he did

No clear answers on whether the sky is blue.

"Well we didn't physically watch him write it so who could possibly know what the truth is" is some real googoo gaga baby bullshit

That is interessting for all contracts in the world 😇

Trump probably managed to stiff a contractor or two with that argument. Which says nothing about the truth claim here and everything about how broken the American system of business is.

Little known fact… Loopy D and Long Tail were Trump and Epsteins nicknames for each other.

I propose we start saying he used autopen to sign it. Their heads will explode from the conspiracy theories converging.

The loopy derp state did it!

Signature analysis part of all this seems very dumb. Mine has changed a bunch over the years depending on a variety of factors. My stance remains: the letter is deeply weird and not what someone would have made up to incriminate Trump.

What even is a signature anyway?

I literally logged on to Twitter for the first time in months, just to call that guy an idiot.

He’s got a loopy D.

Talk about bush league reporting.

Is this written by an Amazon sponsored grok-knockoff?

If this doesn't hold, no signature should hold any value anymore, ever.

Bending over backwards to “well, actually” everyone on behalf of Donald fucking Trump. Amazing.

Hmmm… but what if water is dry?

don't believe your lying eyes ass moment right here

Who will we believe? The President or our lying eyes?

The New York Times is corrupt. Never forget.

The NYT is a little more forward facing on this one , amazingly

Yeah, there's plenty of good reporting in both papers, the problem primarily lies with their editorial staff, who waste no time amplifying whatever BS Fox and right-wing operatives dream up. The NY Times pretended the Hur Report was factual and not ideological, and ran something like a 100 stories.

Meanwhile, the New York Times coverage: bsky.app/profile/auda...

They are still giving coverage to right-wing talking points. Better editors with weren't quite as media illiterate as the NY Times editorial staff, wouldn't give space to the Right's FUD efforts.

that’s wapo font bruv

Oops, my mistake, thanks for the correction. The Washington Post is corrupt. Never forget.

It’s the Washington Post

them too

"We're all still looking for the guy that did this"

The whole article is surprisingly available on MSN. www.msn.com/en-us/news/p...

In my book, forensic handwriting analysis should be handled with skepticism. If you want to nerd out, I invite you to take a look at this 2020 Report of the Expert Working Group for Human Factors in Handwriting Examination published by the NIST. nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/ir/...

And also, there is no doubt in my mind that Trump signed the Epstein birthday book. 📖

john barron forged the signature

It reads like parody, those signatures are nearly identical.

Bezos moving to protect his guy.

experts say they "cant be sure" after Trump threatens them with retailiation if they say otherwise

Other than the fact its obviously his, media is so corrupt anytime they say we can't tell if the administration is lying or not is a confession they think he is lying.

As if it was found blowing across a sidewalk somewhere and not, you know, bound with dozens of other pedo letters into a 50th birthday gift for his best friend.

Snopes is saying while they have no proof the image is genuine, the signature corresponds with documents from the alleged time where he signed only with his first name. Including the long tail.

Email him and let him know what a crock of shit this is.

I would almost find it a more legitimate excuse if they said "This isn't Donald Trump's signature, this is clearly the signature of someone named AwvwAwvwvwA" I still wouldn't believe them, but it would be more believable.

What the actual FUCK?! So Trump and his ilk are claiming that in 2003, when Trump and Epstein were still besties, Trump didn't write a letter, but some weirdo FAKED a letter from Trump? A letter that had been specifically requested for E's birthday book? REALLY?? Is that what you're going with?

The dog wrote my homework.

They say the book was given by the Epstein family to the WSJ, but how do we know that? Some say it may have been created and made public by Nancy Pelosi.

A 4 year old can match these up

can someone name and shame the publication so I can make sure I'm not supporting them with a subscription? this deserves an investigation by a rival paper to figure out who of this paper has been bought by the trump admin.

Scramble them and make the doubters pick out the "fake" one.

AGAIN, LET US BE CLEAR: EVEN IF DONALD TRUMP SOMEHOW WAS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH EPSTEIN, HE IS STILL A CONVICTED RAPIST WHO HAS DOZENS OF ACCUSERS.

The winner: WaPo = en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_St%...

"I never wrote a drawing"

IT WAS IN A BOUND BOOK. MADE DECADES AGO

AND IT WAS IN THE POSSESSION OF HIS ESTATE THE WHOLE TIME

I can't keep my silence any longer I sent the letter decades ago as a prank that's FINALLY paying off

Master of the long game!

Finally the real 4D chess player.

Obviously Spy magazine finally got him!

Really stretching that 4th D to the limit

it’s a well known scientific fact that people’s signatures ALWAYS look EXACTLY the same down to the tiniest ink particles EVERY SINGLE TIME they sign something Especially a guy who came out the womb running business ventures, which famously never ever involves signing mountains of paperwork daily 🙃

This can’t be a real thing

No clear answers on whether Trump signed the Epstein birthday book, says only nation where this would even be a question

How will we ever figure it out? 🙄

I refuse to use Sharpies or eat at McDonald's.

great header picture to use for this because it’s like, can you figure out which of these 4 signatures is supposed to be doubtfully as opposed to obviously his? i can’t

The first journalist to hold up these signatures and ask Trump’s team to identify the “clearly not Trump’s signature” from the Epstein letter gets all my life savings. (Warning: You’ll be disappointed by the payout)

Are they comparing the wrong signature? He only signed his first name in the birthday poem

It’s his fucking signature, he’s fucking guilty and is taking us down a fucking shithole full of lies, deceit and greed.🤬

Must’ve been Autopen!

Perhaps some troublemaker, just on the chance that this would become public 22 years later and Trump would be president, almost-flawlessly forged his signature and Epstein was just like "cool, I love how this implicates my friend Donald Trump. I hope there are other forgeries in here." Could happen.

did someone put their name on this? as in a byline?

They all say DonaldDummy to my eyes.

[Putting on my tinfoil hat] Well, really, the problem is that the signatures are TOO similar

Exquisite.

I feel like I’m going (more) insane

They think they’re making fools of us, but they’re mainly making fools of themselves.

Are you kidding? If he said it was definitely Donald Trump's signature, he would have a target on his back. The CIA don't play.

If he can get away with denying this then the entire point of signatures is moot.

Notice how he doesn’t say that the writing is disgusting or question what type of sicko would write something like that…. He just says “I don’t write like that, that’s not my writing.”

I barely knew the guy The book doesn’t exist Someone dishonestly put my signature alongside Bill Clinton’s and Alan Dershowitz’s, because they wanted to make me look bad 20 years later

It’s fucking wild to witness acquiescence to a change in Government by an authoritarian in real time. It really is seamless for these people.

Why do we just randomly choose to shut off our brains with this man? I've never seen a more extreme example for Occam's razor.

"experts say they can't be sure" is an excellent way to say that 'handwriting experts' are at least largely a bunch of grifters

Honestly i think bothering w the handwriting is the wrong approach. Start subpeonaing the OTHER people in the book. Once it's clear the book is real he has to explain why the fuck someone would SPECIFICALLY forge a page from him in it 20 years ago.

Peter Mandelsons comments on his name showing up in it seem to confirm that he did write the stuff attached to his name (which are equally weird, and seem to be hinting at exactly the same thing trumps "poem" does)

Those are all so clearly the same signature that seeing someone try to argue it makes me worry about their eyesight

Like, what's the theory here? Maxwell forged the letter from Epstein's good friend for some unknown reason?

What dipshit writing for the Post wrote this?

The idea that 20 years ago someone who was able to forge Donald Trump's signature decided to forge a birthday card and somehow knew Donald would not send one so that Jeffery wouldn't receive a fake one and a real one rather than forging Trump's signature on a check or bank withdrawl blows my mind. 🙄

I had to check who wrote that article. Yep.

I don't want to meet anybody else who writes that way. What if graphologists are right and handwriting reflects someone's personality?

I guess without a Linda Tripp there's just no way to know

To riff on something I heard another person say, this is like having 999 pieces of a 1,000-piece puzzle assembled and saying "well we cant be 100% sure what this shows"

Also, who can say if this President lies about things?

With all the sh:t going on Epstein stuff is just consuming energy and attention

no clear answers on whether jfk was shot or his head just did that spontaneously

damn whoever wrote this piece sure seems like they’re defending multiple wealthy pedophiles. i wonder why an employee of the Washington Post would do something like that? 🤔

Because Democracy does something in lack of exposure or something

There is nothing long about his D.

Get your Loopy D T-shirts right here

Is the ink really black? We'll leave it to you to decide.

democracy dies in “are you fucking kidding me…”

Fucking fascist rag

Motherfuckers out here trying to turn this into an epistemological question. “It Looks Like Trump’s Signature. But How Can We Know Anything, Really?”

Loopy D sounds like a great new nickname, but seriously…if you were a “handwriting expert” consulted about this notoriously vengeful “President”, what would you say?

I mean, at least the @nytimes.com acknowledges the obvious.

I thought this was pitchbot. But I guess it’s real and not funny. Ugh.

How do we know own this wasn't just an echocardiogram from just before Jeff was strangled to death? 🤪

No one is pointing out that they’re comparing his first name signature with his first and last name signature? The NYT managed that with comparisons to contemporaneous first name signatures from that era

Now be fair. This could be his evil twin, or a clone, or him from the future. There's simply know way of knowing

No clear answers on whether Jack Ruby shot Lee Harvey Oswald. He denies it’s him in the photograph of him doing it, and experts can’t be sure.

Possibly Photoshopped in 1963. 😉

"How can we be certain that Donald Trump has ever in fact signed his own signature? How do we know that his tiny hands are real? How do we know if anything is real at all?" Washington Post: Democracy Dies in Dumbness

Washington post writer: "doesn't look like anything to me"

Of course he fucking did its ludicrous to try to deny the obvious truth about this Epstein birthday card signed 22 years ago it’s time for some fucking truth to come out and let’s dismantle Trumps lies and obstruction of the truth fuck this old fag packet of a cunt loser

it was the FBI informant that signed the book

Gotta be fucking kidding me lol

It’s a real fuckin mystery ain’t it

The WSJ gave examples comparing when Trump signed things "Donald". WaPo here is comparing to when he signed things "Donald Trump" which is going to change the energy of how he signs things, especially the end of the "Donald" part. Cowards.

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I defy them to compare his signature on all of his executive orders and not find so many discrepancies.

Jeff must be on the list.

mind you... this is the same asshole who made DAMNED sure that exact same signature was on all the COVID checks.

Loopy D and Long Tail sounds like a terrible early 90's buddy cop film

I do find it morbidly hilarious that signatures were created to both oppress illiterate people and legitimize documents, and in the hundreds of years since people started using them every time they come up everyone in a position of power screams about how they can't do...the one thing they're for...

REALLY need a jerk off emoji.

I really hate these stupid freaks dude. They act like siding with the president will save them when it comes to blows

Forging Trump’s signature more than 20 yrs ago to include it in a book that’s been in the Epstein estate. Yeah, okay.

Next you’re going to tell me Donald Trump didn’t write “the art of the deal.” Smdh.

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

Yeah. Wow. There's simply no way to know. Wow. Very convincing?

Is it all of the above?

…Who would even be in a position and have a motive to place a forgery in a bound album in 2003?

Infinity-D chess!!!!

the same people who in 1961 announced the birth of a baby born in kenya in hawaiian newspapers, to enable his illegitimate presidency in 2008

Donny's come a long way: he used to have to push the conspiracy theories himself, but now he can count on the newspapers to do it for him

It wasn’t him. It was his autopen!

“Pathological Liar Denies Identical Psychotic Signatures Match” Fixed that for ya, WaPo.

Are you going to believe us or your lying eyes?

Gosh, they can't be sure that it looks exactly how "Donald's" signature looks when he only signs his first name 20 years ago!

No way to know if person Trump shot in the middle of 5th Avenue died because of the shooting.

He doesn't know anything about it. He can't judge a group he doesn't know.

writing experts flummoxed that signature doesnt look exactly the same, down to every last microliter of ink, every single time. “it could mean anything, idk”

Holy shit the oligarchic mass media is the BEST! They’ll never ever fail their special little orange boy. They are SO going to endorse his demented ass in 2028. And obv the maga court will carve out a way for him to run. Sulzberger, Kahn, Bezos and his sycophants, Murdoch all love him so.

Duck Duck Duck Duck One of these things is not like the others

This would be less heinous if Trump just admitted he did a lot of cocaine in the 80s and 90s while hanging out with the world's most notorious child sex trafficker.

“Hey boss! How far do you want me to move these goalposts again?!?!?”

Maybe we can just pretend he never signed any legislation either.

Using the full signature and not the one he uses when he just signs his first name is a strange editorial choice

Hmmm… yes, curious. Probably a simple oversight /s

There’s a loopy D all right.

youtu.be/hV85E2S-Idw?...

The WP is more and more becoming the New York Post. A couple really lopsided, soft, partisan headlines like this, and they are there.

Yeah, not the same at all 🙄

I'll give the serial liar sex pest the benefit of the doubt tyvm

Is this person a trained journalist? I see no actual evidence. I mean sure, the NYT may have checked their background, but how can we be sure?

The President is a suspected child molester should be the scoop of the century! What are we even doing here?

Doesn’t even need to be that level of accusation! Used to be enough that you were associates! Hell, used to be enough to attempt coverups and obstruction, even if you were 100% innocent! There were unrelated, literal high crimes and misdemeanours and that wasn’t enough!

Nobody who voted for him did not know who he was, nobody who did not vote did not know who he was, no one in Congress does not know who he is, no one in the High Court who fought tooth and nail to stall his prosecutions did not know who he was. All the lines have long since been crossed.

“I can grab them by the pussy…” And we can’t be sure that was his voice until he got off the bus.

He was an FBI informant, and while he was getting his dick sucked by a child for the law he got hoaxed by a version of himself who was a democrat.

Newsmax in sheep's clothing.

And the emperors clothes look fantastic

Loopy D and Long Tail would have been a great band name. Or are those the deep state agents they are blaming for this?

Came here to make the band name comment, glad I did a search first.

Exactly. It’s a bound book. From 2003.

He raped women. 🤷🏻‍♂️

It clearly says "John Barron" 🔍

Literally no one writes like this. He has his own font

Like what would be the motive for someone to have forged his signature years ago? Who would have the access? Just completely unbelievable balderdash.

Who among us hasn’t sent a birthday card to someone and signed someone else’s name on it?

“We can’t really know if the smoke surrounding us means there is indeed a fire.” -Washington Post

We have literally HUNDREDS of examples of him recently signing things in a THICK black marker. He oh so LOVES to show off each and every one of his signatures on every executive order he signs. How the hell could they not confirm this is him?

we can clear this up pretty quickly. forensic -paper -ink -handwriting* analysis. -book conservator (was the letter put into the BOUND book later?) -dust for prints (they can last for decades) *fun fact: works for drawings too. swoops & curves, donald. swoops & curves.

Found #LoopyD and the Long Tail

WaPo or NYT?

WaPo

Fuck both papers. But I'm this case WaPo in particular.. Thought it was NYT.

who is on the byline? :)

Fuck them forever.

Yes there is! Face it folks, the potus was best friends with the worst pedophile in the history of our country. What do you know about your best friend? Everything…

Straight up Tim Robinson in a hot dog suit type of shit going on here.

He was friends with Epstein at the time! The story here is Trump lying about the WSJ not having the book!!!! I am going to lose my mind

The media loves Trump and wants him to rule us. No other explanation works.

💯

Forensic Analysis Of The Loopy D sounds like a good title for a book that's a post mortem of the Trump presidency.

GOP = Guardians Of Pedos

who published this?

The Washington Post

Democracy dies in darkness!

jesus

bsky.app/profile/anno...

Is it more or does this read as a journalist telling management to fuck off visually?

No clear answers

NYT?

Who's the child to tell the fucking cult Trump as no clothes?