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penguins18.bsky.social @penguins18.bsky.social

Yes there are always the enlightened few, it’s true. But I’d guess Aristotle’s opinion was by far the mainstream in Greek opinion.

aug 19, 2025, 2:44 am • 0 0

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Adanedhel🌹 @danielwaweru.bsky.social

I have my doubts. One piece of evidence is Demosthenes’ “Aristogeiton”.

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Adanedhel🌹 @danielwaweru.bsky.social

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Adanedhel🌹 @danielwaweru.bsky.social

He had an affair with foreign woman resident in Athens; they fell out; he tried to get her sold into slavery. This is presented to the public as seriously shameful conduct—you can’t just sell a foreign woman into slavery, especially when she had been his benefactor. And if presented as shameful

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Adanedhel🌹 @danielwaweru.bsky.social

it’s presumably because the speaker expects his audience to agree. I don’t think it’s safe to say they regarded foreigners as sub-human: in this case, it’s clear that trying to enslave a foreigner who had been a benefactor was the sort of conduct that called for censure.

aug 19, 2025, 3:12 am • 0 0 • view
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Adanedhel🌹 @danielwaweru.bsky.social

I think respectable Athenian opinion would probably have been scandalised by the American slaveholder class’s selling its concubines and their children.

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Adanedhel🌹 @danielwaweru.bsky.social

Just in general: ancients are interesting and important; and sometimes very seriously intelligent and insightful. It’s a mistake to think (worse, hope) they were all proto-Nazis. The scale and nature of enmity between peoples in the wake of European expansion post-Columbus is quite likely new.

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