At some point we need to talk about how a ton of progressives came out of the pandemic not as anti-vaxxers, but still mistrusting the science behind vaccines.
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I know that a lot of people conveniently memoryhole this, but the original wave of antivaxxers here were looking at Dems accusing Trump of "rushing a vaccine because of the election" and going "even your commie friends over there believe it's a scam".
aug 31, 2025, 7:52 am • 0 0 • view
Look at the demographics of progressives, and then ask yourself who in our society is more likely to believe in healing crystals and horoscopes and the like. It really isn't hard to figure out.
aug 31, 2025, 7:44 am • 2 0 • view
People adopted a eugenic attitude
aug 31, 2025, 2:39 pm • 0 0 • view
The wellness/supplement industry has infiltrated all parts of our society, from mainstream to outsider, and it's messed with people's belief systems and made a lot of us much more individualistic, narcissistic and selfish.
aug 31, 2025, 7:28 am • 10 0 • view
But because some in academic science blamed PoMo for this instead of new age crap (illiterately equating the two). Also, Big Pharma didn't help because it constantly conflated their commercial activities with public science. These are self inflicted wounds!
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Anyway, it's horrible that we're here and the only way back is to talk about all this honestly. Ideally we'd remove the profit motive from medicine entirely, it's bad for medicine and bad for public health and humanity on purely ethical grounds.
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They’re stupid because they don’t listen because they think they know more than anyone.
aug 31, 2025, 7:31 am • 1 0 • view
did they mistrust the science or the pharma capitalistic practices?
aug 31, 2025, 7:21 am • 1 0 • view
Oh snap. It was rather convenient for the two to be conflated, wasn’t it?
aug 31, 2025, 7:27 am • 1 0 • view
yeah, it was bad and allowed the rightwing to take hold of all that valid criticism and just substitute the capitalism part out of it with crazy conspiracies
aug 31, 2025, 7:32 am • 1 0 • view
Yes. Always to protect the interests of capital.
aug 31, 2025, 7:34 am • 1 0 • view
they used the latter to unjustly justify the former
aug 31, 2025, 7:28 am • 5 0 • view
possible. but if you did mistrust pharma cpaitalism what could you do?
aug 31, 2025, 7:29 am • 0 0 • view
Trust Wellness capitalism? Me, I trust the industry with more regulation!
aug 31, 2025, 2:10 pm • 0 0 • view
i mistrust private pharma companies, so i advocate for public pharma. but that doesn’t mean i think all pharma is a deception, conveniently at the same time the extreme right is trying to get people to stop trusting vaccines
aug 31, 2025, 7:31 am • 9 0 • view
i agree completely. and i suspect most progressives do as well. that's why i took issue with your initial framimg
aug 31, 2025, 7:33 am • 0 0 • view
i think there are a lot of progressives post-covid who’d advocate for public pharma but still mistrust the effectiveness of vaccines (especially the covid vaccine)
aug 31, 2025, 7:36 am • 3 0 • view
possible. but the right wing ubiquitous propaganda campaign has to be taken in to consideration. i mean, progressives were convinced to advocate for war, so
aug 31, 2025, 7:37 am • 0 0 • view
oh i think that played a huge role, though the people i’m talking about would deny they fell for it
aug 31, 2025, 7:43 am • 2 0 • view
Didn’t a lot of the anti trust in the corporations bringing them to the public get conflated with anti trust in vaccines themselves?
aug 31, 2025, 7:26 am • 0 0 • view
That point was quite a while ago 😬
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