barack and michelle obama deserve to be booed relentlessly everywhere they go for their silence in this moment
barack and michelle obama deserve to be booed relentlessly everywhere they go for their silence in this moment
every single wealthy, powerful and influential person on our side has an obligation to use their wealth, power and influence to fight in this moment
Obama was a President of the United States — not just some random person we’re unfairly expecting too much from. Why shouldn’t any living president be actively fighting for the country they once led? Ffs 🤦🏻
Because you didn't NAME THE CURRENT LIVING REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT WHO NEVER OPENED HIS MOUTH TO DEFEND AMERICA AGAINST TRUMP!
One thing Tim Walz has been saying is “I have a responsibility to use whatever platform I have in this moment”.
Yes, he gets it. Thanks for the reminder.
Who?! Call them by name too!!
like you are? or are you just going to blame other people instead of meeting your own standard? you could literally choose to help and instead you choose this? trash.
I can't believe you don't already know this, but let me explain: When the opposition includes armed, violent white supremacists whom Trump has made immune from consequences, you have no right to DEMAND that ANY people of color put their safety in jeopardy. Even wealthy and powerful ones.
Yes I’m sure the Obamas are fearful for their own lives It’s not like they are billionaires who can flee to anywhere in the world We’re not asking for a some random on the street. It’s not the same for them
OK they're wealthy and enjoy the privileges of wealth. But Trump's America is animated by *violent* white supremacists who've been imbued w/ legal immunity. Think of EVERYTHING that implies. Now imagine being Black in Trump's America, watching white folks demand that Black people be their heroes.
I’m not demanding black people be our voices, I’m demanding those with power (wealth) to fucking use it for good for once
We're done. Muting your disingenuous ass.
absolutely. history shows us that when the right uses violence the safest course of action is to immediately capitulate 👍
yes!! and especially not ones with 24/7 secret service protection and unlimited social capital!!!!
"secret service protection and unlimited social capital" with *four* exclamation points. Wow. You're a fucking genius.
and you’re a capitulating bozo 🤙
and this means you want us to boo the obamas huh
EVERY white person on "our side" has an obligation to speak to everyone they know. Every day. Every person. Michelle and Barack Obama don't owe y'all shit.
Move those goalposts, weasel
"Our side"? Wealthy and powerful people are on the side of wealth and power. Always.
Any reason you picked the black president & not Bush or Clinton’s? Just wondering, cause people who say things like that are part of the problem. I voted for Obama & Harris. We need former politicians to speak out against the coup. If they don’t, for whatever reason, it’s not support.
I know why
Because the Bushes and Clintons are known moral and ethical dumpster fires maybe? And people still respect at least Michelle?
🤷🏼 optics weren’t good.
what are you and yours actually doing other than screaming at Black Dems to do something?
This comment is much better than your initial one above, Andrew, which was needlessly and fruitlessly alienating to (I expect) many. I accept that you are in pain and are much better than your worse comment. They don’t need to be booed, but they should be beseeched. But their kids are ripe targets.
The Obama don’t owe you or anyone else anything. They campaigned and told yall what would happen. Go “beseech” the majority of whyte folks who voted for Trump and leave the Obama alone.
They are not obligated to do anything. The citizens of this country voted for all of what is happening. You need to redirect this to actual congresspeople asleep at the wheel. Better yet, ask your nearest Republican neighbor what they are going to do about this?
They did. Your min folk didn’t listen. Instead of sounding like a racist rage baiter, why don’t you start calling out the white, wealthy people who kept silent when Kamala ran because they wanted yet another white man in the White House. Meathead, I’m looking at you,
*kin
And every poster has an obligation to yell "won't somebody else do something?!" and feel satisfied that they did their part.
Otherwise it's a surrender to the capital interests currently creating the fascism. Which you may not be surprised to learn was an extreme enabled by their constant capitulation to them. bsky.app/profile/ndre...
Magic Negro propaganda works.
Go fuck yourself, you racist bag of yuck. You're not owed a performance by a private citizen on your wee plantation. Get out there and take care of this shit yourself.
So you can sit on your ass? We ALL need to get going. President and Mrs. Obama worked very hard before the election. And the majority of White People voted the orange felon anyway. This is our fuckup and we need to fix it.
Not only didn't they listen to Pres and Michelle Obama, many, including so-called "progressive" white men complain that Mrs Obama had the nerve to discuss women's health. White "progressives" on this app complain that racism was Harris' primary campaign focus, who it was NOT.
They always have to have an excuse, no? It doesn't necessarily have to be true.
Love the idea from the responses to this that the last two term Democratic president has nothing to do with the current moment lol
Who left office almost a decade ago.
Actually my favourite responses who hear you refer to an individual "Barack Obama" and hear "Black People". Insane sublimated racism
Are you kidding? At most, they're just going to wait until the public fully turns on Trump before saying, "See? I was with you all along!"
These replies are so bad Andrew I’m sorry. Just clear lack of understanding power and empire and what meaningful resistance is supposed to be.
Just wanted to say that that’s a great screen name!
I'm getting dragged for calling EVERYONE with power and wealth cowards for being quiet in the face of Trump. Lmfao. So many unhinged people on this thread
You assume a Black couple is sitting back doing nothing. It's not our job to save America. We can sit this out because we lived through this racism the first 4 years. WP sure do stay silent until it's time to tell Black people what to do. That was the whole post, or did that miss you?
Yeah, there's a lot of white people telling a black man what to do.
You're responding to a post that literally has in caps, "EVERYONE". You know that right? Can you read the word "EVERYONE"?
And you say this by... calling out a black couple. Yeah... sure. We all see what you're really trying to say here.
On our side, hmm well
bsky.app/profile/subs... SHE SAID WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY, at the DNC convention. But MAJORITY of white people, and those desperate to be accepted by whiteness, voted TRUMP. You didn't listen to her then, and won't listen now. SO FQ OFF!!
You want to blame everybody but White people's racism, because you will protect and preserve white supremacy at all cost. No matter how bad its been for the country, you still want to protect it. And you azzholes always find a way to blame BLACK PEOPLE for the 💩you create.
Fragile white males like Andrew will always "find" any other reason but their sexism & racism
Where is your post demanding George Bush Jr and Laura Bush, "DO SOMETHING"? All I've seen from white people like you, is the demands of Black people's labor, but you NEVER have the same smoke for the white people in power. George Bush hasn't said 💩about Trump in EIGHT YEARS!!
Fucking revolting, because he might actually have some pull. Or had.
What is your point? Hilary is on TWITTER calling out the racism, and bull 💩Trump is doing everyday. So what is the point of this post?
My point is the OP singled out the Obama’s, but doesnt have the same standard for Hillary? Seems weird.
Exactly! The man was actually in that party!
We are lucky they've even used their time to campaign for the Democratic party, after how this country treated them. SO FQ YOU, and FQ ALL the privileged azz white people like you, who liked your post.
You muthafuquers have a lot of GD nerve demanding anything from the Obama's, after the way you treated them when they were in the White House. Did you think we forgot that WP made signs with Obama's head in a noose, called Michelle a gorilla and her children monkeys?
Obama's what
That was crazy when Andrew made that sign
OH yeah, well Barak and Michelle OBAMA have been out there for the last EIGHT YEARS warning this country about TRUMP, and majority of you WHITE PEOPLE didn't listen to them, and STILL VOTED TRUMP!! Why the FQ should they keep talking to people who are not going to listen to them anyway?
Still trying to justify the desire for free labor. Fight for yourself. Save yourself.
Hey Andy, why don’t you go boo all of your Trump voting white friends and relatives. You know, the ones you did not bother to challenge before the election
You think a handful of random white people are more powerful than Obama?
If those ‘random’ white ppl voted in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania last November, then yes.
But, you didn't single out every wealthy, powerful, and influential person on *our* side. Think about that.
Glib. Nobody expects the mummified corpse of Joe Biden to do anything. He gave up months before the end of his presidency. Asking where the Obamas are right now is fine, actually. I remember when he promised hope.
You often show up for jobs you haven’t worked at for 8 years? I’m also going for glib
If I show up in a voting booth for someone I expect a lot from them. It's a lot more than a job. And the jobs I had eight years ago are still kind of a big deal for me, and I do talk about them, and if anyone else cared I'd talk about them in public. You sound more ridiculous than glib.
Like our whole fucking society is being broken down and that guy took an oath to defend the constitution once, and you want to fight with people who are asking where he is right now? Couldn't be me.
It was supposed to sound ridiculous. It’s a joke. Being president isn’t a normal job. That’s why I plainly stated it was glib. Perhaps I’m confused on the meaning of the word.
GFY
You've literally got nothing to say except "um kind of a bad look criticizing the only Black president..." Fucking useless.
Fart off.
Michelle Obama came out of grieving for her mother and her hate for politics to help Harris campaign for weeks. Obama campaigned for weeks on trying to help Harris trying to warn America. In what world do you think they deserve mistreatment because people didn't heed their warnings? Stop!!
did the fight against fascism end
Come on, you don't see yourself on the side of wealthy, influential people, and you don't see them as being on your side.
the mistake is thinking they’re “on our side”
*** every single wealthy WHITE*** we did our part. WHITE women, however, did not.
Awful take, serious fucking delete your entire account.
Big loser energy with this take. They did their part. Cry about how all the former Republicans don’t say shit to their current counterparts then as well.
And you have an obligation to shut your trap after demanding two black people behave like you want them to
Why? America has spoken. Is this not what they wanted? And why are you pointing out Black folks, who have gone through hell in an effort to advance this country? They do not owe America anything anymore.
Has your savior Bernie sold any of his houses or given millions away like you demand the Obamas do?
No the fuck they don't WE did this to ourselves YOU should've had those hard talks with your family, friends & coworkers who voted with their racism, bigotry & misogynoir The Obamas & every influential, wealthy person on the left TOLD US OVER & OVER TOO MANY didn't listen or didn't care
"They told us"
And your point is what? 🤷
You mad at Obama for being a classy gentleman?
Lmfao. So many unhinged people on your thread. What happened to you today Andrew?
Yeah, and they're being quiet and cowards
The cowards are the ppl who refused to put a capable Black woman in the presidency The cowards are the ones calling on Black folks to come in & save the day HELL TO THE NO WE ARE DONE THIS is on y'all white folk to fix Black folk told y'all & warned y'all over & over
I'm responding to Andrews second tweet. I'm not talking about the Obama's at all, except in the general sense that every person with wealth and power should be speaking out RIGHT NOW.
Why? Many of them did speak Many of them supported Harris & gave money to her campaign Many of them were very verbal in their criticism of #45 as a danger to our nation But like you & me, they only get 1 vote They did not put #45 in office
I'm just saying that ANYONE with wealth and power should be speaking out. I did not even talk about Barack and Michelle But generally, they have wealth and power. Just like other former presidents. It would be awesome if the Clinton's and Bushes spoke out now too. But they aren't.
Them speaking out will have no effect whatsoever on #45 nor the situation at hand We the ppl must compel our elected representatives in Congress & the Senate to impeach & remove him THAT IS THE BEST COURSE IF ACTION
Anyone with wealth and power should do something. Maybe they can convince some in Congress to impeach and remove him? I agree with that Louise. Get him out
They campaigned. They told everyone the stakes and exactly what would happen. White people heard what they said and rejected it. Do not blame the Black people who warned you.
I'm responding to Andrews second tweet. I'm not talking about the Obama's at all, except in the general sense that every person with wealth and power should be speaking out RIGHT NOW.
he is talking about the obamas very specifically
I'm his second post? Where?
youre not that dumb, dont pretend to be
Yeah, I'm generally responding to a post in which anyone with wealth and power should be speaking out. Currently there's no real leader or voice in the opposition. Except maybe AOC or Bernie. Take a chill pill
See a therapist
What work on it are you doing, besides rage-tweeting?
What
Are you canvasing? Working phone banks? There’s a long list of work you could be doing instead of complaining.
They effin’ told you all what was going to happen. So sit down
What?
The Black woman running for President? There was a campaign? The Obama's were there? Not ringing any bells?
I'm responding to Andrews second tweet. I'm not talking about the Obama's at all, except in the general sense that every person with wealth and power should be speaking out RIGHT NOW.
Andrew's 2nd post is in response to his 1st, so that targeting of Black people, one who is not a politician, is part of the context you're replying to. You failed to distance yourself from the 1st so it's reasonable people think you're agreeing with the poorly aimed thread.
Obama "is not a politician" Okay, John, you got me. Great joke buddy.
What elected office did Michelle Obama run for
I'm talking about people with wealth and power. She is very wealthy and powerful. When I said Obama, I was referring to Barack
Was that before or after Barack drone-bombed a wedding?
LOL🖕
100%
The Obama’s are the two most popular Democrats in the country, get a grip. Turning on the only Dems apolitical people actually like would be insanely dumb right now.
Your view and those of the two replies before mine are actually reconcilable. We can lower the temperature in this discussion. Do people get it if recast this as “Obama-wan, you’re our only hope”? That’s what people are saying in this horrible time, when we are all as desperate as Princess Leia.
Oh, they're the most popular? Maybe they should do something with the influence that brings.
That’s the point. You’d think two of the most popular Dems in the country would show a little leadership in the face of fascism, right?
they got a lotta bad streaming tv to produce
they were never on your side, unfortunately
like the side Obama was on was whatever side made Barack Obama a lot of money
They were never on "our side" and their actions in this moment should make that abundantly clear
Drone king Obama
I think you are overestimating the influence these people will have over the electorate. People truly DGAF.
You can get angry at alot but a big issue is media has brainwashed people into thinking this normal or acceptable. But the main blame is white people. EVERY TIME our country faces adversity or faces progress being delayed its all white peoples fault. The bigots start it & the others move out the way
Two things can be true at the same time.
Exactly, potato potato
Pretty long list of white people that you skipped right past to say that a Black woman who's never held any elected office should be attacked on sight for not acting as white people's savior
how about you stop using black people as your shield
You're the one defending the most popular living former President for not speaking up while the entire country turns onto a fascist hellscape. His silence is unacceptable regardless of his race.
you don't even know the empty suit you're cheerleading. California attorney general is an elected office
Before I block you, I’d like you to ask bing for what years Michelle Obama was attorney general of California
the post doesn’t exist in a vacuum, it’s a response to current discourse re: obama
hes telling people to boo michelle obama that post exists in an alternate reality
Correct. This post exists in the context of white voters ignoring the Obama's when they told us exactly what would happen and choosing fascism. White people ignored them! They are not able to magically make white people not racist!
But this is fundamentally not true. A whole lot of white people voted for Harris/Walz. Millions of them, in fact.
A majority of white people—and a large majority of white men—voted for fascism. If you don't feel you should be held responsible for that, consider the reasons for booing two Black private citizens.
Why would I be responsible for how other people voted? lol are you insane?
How are the Obamas responsible for how other people voted?
Do you believe that I and the Obama's have the same level of social and political influence?
Talking to your Maga family members is definitely more helpful. The Obamas tried to warn them 3 times and Trump won those demographics 3 times.
I dunno man. Seems like maybe you should be booed in public wherever you go.
Am I a former president and the most popular liberal politician of the era who, though both action and calculated inaction, set the stage for the current horror show and who, through continued silence on the issue, lend it a measure of legitimacy? Our am I just some dude on the internet?
Ahh, so you're *blaming* Michelle Obama for actively making white people more racist. Got it.
Pleas explain those Hispanic and black voters who voted for Trump while you’re suggesting that it’s white voters who ignored The Obamas warnings, I’d like to hear your take on that . I white voter who voted for Obama twice and for Harri
Harris
ah I see you believe this was the only thing ive ever posted ever
hopefully its the dumbest
I'm sure you've posted long lists of specific white people by name who should be booed everywhere they go before you chose to call out the Black wife of a guy who was President nearly a decade ago.
Yeah, you're right. After a decade the Obamas no longer have influence and should just focus on their Netflix deal.
No, you're right. I bet if they campaigned for someone, there's no way racist white people would ignore them and vote for fascism instead
Is this really your interpretation of what happened? Jeez.
What part are you confused about? The Obama's campaigning against Trump? White people voting for fascism? You're not confused about the racist fascism, are you?
I am curious what you think Michelle Obama should be doing now that would make a difference after white people ignored what she said during the Harris campaign?
Denounce the Republican party, including bad while men like George Bush. They're what go us here but from the Obamas they get treated nicely
You think the wife of a guy who was President a while ago should go out in public and denounce another guy who was president even longer ago. And that's how we'll defeat fascism, is it?
Yeah I think someone high profile should call out the President that created ICE now that ICE is attempting to deport legal US residents and explain that it was a mistake to ignore that for so long in favor of public interpersonal niceties
If the Obamas are so good and important I'd figure (if you were really against the Republicans) that they would be glad to use their position to damage them and make the US better
fascism is doomed if only we were to insult W more so brave
Sorry for giving the least extreme example in order to show you how low the bar is, I'm sure you would've respond great if I suggested they use their fame and access to personally assassinate a GOP official
Yes!!
that's a tad disingenuous, the Obamas (both of them) are among the most well known and influential figures in the world. They have a platform that is unmatched by anyone else I can think of in Democratic politics. It's not inappropriate to expect them to use that platform.
They did use it! When they campaigned for Harris! And white people chose fascism! What exactly do you want them to say *now*? And how dare you demand an unelected Black woman stand as your sacrificial leader, when our white male elected leaders refuse to fight?
Did i say that? no i didn't. I said that they are extremely well known and have a massive platform. Expecting them to use that in the fight against fascism isn't wrong. Just because Harris lost doesn't mean that the fight against the fascists is over. EVERYONE needs to step up.
Asking again, what exactly do you want them to say now? What amazing word of power are they keeping from us?
Since your entire country is beaten down and has mostly accepted their fate, maybe something inspiring?
If you aren't here and aren't aware of the anger or organizing and aren't listening to our political leaders who are saying something inspiring, I guess I can understand your total confusion
Ok, so the resistance is covered and Obama can keep focusing on making shitty documentaries through the apocalypse.
No, unfortunately the resistance isn't quite covered because we have a lot of lazy white dipshits looking for a Black person to blame so they don't have to talk to their Uncle Maga about his vote against "dei"
They are famously both very good speakers. What's the downside?
They could get 'UNALIVED' their girls could get kidnapped!
That can happen at any time to anyone
Come on now
Again, did I ever criticize them? No. That was OP. I was saying that since they are public figures, who are extremely well known the world over, are able to reach millions upon millions of people in an instant, it's not unreasonable to think they have an obligation to use it.
I think that everyone needs to be in this fight. It's most important right now that our current electeds stand up an fight. The Obamas have no official power, those who do have to show that they'll actually meet the moment. But thinking that they have no place in a solution isn't reasonable.
"The people and institutions in America who have the most will do the least in this fight. Do not be surprised when your search for saviors among the pillars of society fails."
sorry that a million people are going crazy on you about this
They could be paying off all our student loans (people who make less than $100K a year). There are enough multi-millionaires who vote for the Dems who can do this.
This would’ve been a better tweet to post initially instead of making such a negative about post about blck people who have done their part
It's a post about the former president of the United States. Reducing his accomplishments to his race is, uh, pretty fucking racist man.
Why did he say to boo Michelle then?
Just like it’s racist to boo Obama after everything hes done because America didn’t wanna vote the way he advised
Racism is when people mildly criticize the most powerful man in the world. Okay then...
I can do that to ! “Racism is mentioning someone’s race when relevant in a conversation instead of their extensive list of accomplishments. Okay then…”
You're the one doing that...
Obama basically created the perfect ground for Trump to take power what are you talking about
So Obama's the only one with agency? How about Mitch? When Obama had EVIDENCE of Russian meddling before the 2016 election, he asked the party leaders to get TOGETHER and denounce it. Mitch McConnell REFUSED.
You had to add the word “basically” because that’s not true at all 😭
Hi I'm a Democrat, allow me to misinterpret this post to be actually about how you are racist
He is wishing for a magic negro to swoop in and fix something 49.8% of people who bothered to show up voted for.
I mean, just because you didn't see it: www.msn.com/en-us/news/p...
When Trump says he'll deport Obama for being a non-citizen I'll take it easy in that case
He is wishing for a FORMER PRESIDENT to swoop in and fix something 49.8% of people who bothered to show up voted for. Fixed it for you
He didn't call out Clinton or Bush. Shush.
TBF, W was hiding before the election.
Oh so the Obamas have been active in politics more than their white counterparts and are still getting more smoke than the other living presidents? That's cool.
Keep getting "Internal Server Error" but imagine I posted the gif of Fry from Futurama saying "I'm SHOCKED. SHOCKED. WELL NOT THAT SHOCKED"
Which other living president do you want? the Pedophile or the War Criminal?
Did the other pedophile die?
We must protect our smol little president from anyone who would criticize him
Which one's "smol"? Trump's the one with the 3 inch penis.
That's not my argument at all, Toker.
Known RAPIST Bill Clinton? You want to appeal to a rapist to save us?
The key word there being "former"... what the fuck he gonna fucking do?!
bsky.app/profile/zabo...
Yeah man you really nailed it
I mean about 7,000,000 couldn't bring themselves to vote for a black woman, why would they listen to him?
You guys need to decide if Americans don't listen to black people BEFORE you run them for president if this is how you act when they fail
Cry about it
Toker I'm not sure you understand what's happening here.
They tried to tell folks when it counted - BEFORE the election. What makes you think anyone would listen to them now? I think it might be better if REPUBLICANS spoke out against the regime. George Bush would probably be far more impactful.
the lunatics are out in force today huh?
eh theres a lot of anger and raw emotion out there right now and i can understand how people who dont follow me would perceive that single post coming across their timeline ultimately were all on the same side
Who does "we" include" The thing is, if the Obamas were to go on some kind of speaking tour, people like you would still condemn them because they wouldn't condemn the Democratic party and they wouldn't spout left-populist rhetoric. That's not who they are. You all have Sanders and "AOC"...
...Aren't they enough? Why do you all need the Obamas, especially if they're unlikely to be ideologically compliant?
well ideally it would be all hands on deck against the destruction of the constitution
What does that mean? Are you saying the Obamas should be compliant to left-wing populism?
no, even if i wish he believed different things, that’s a different issue than his refusal to use his influence and speak out against a fascist takeover. do you think that someone who agrees 100% with Obama also believes he should stay silent right now?
Why aren't you all calling on the Bidens to speak out?
www.politico.com/news/2025/02...
Saying someone needs to be booed after fighting for all this not to happen is a take. Not sure how you ended up in my TL but that doesn’t sound like “we’re all on the same side.” It sounds like you’re a fairweather “ally” that I need to watch my back around.
No fucking way am I on the same side as pompous, self-superior fake leftist males who engage in casual racism
that’s right; it’s racist to suggest that the person with the most influence over the democratic base should use it instead of silently watching a fascist takeover. you are on obama’s side, not anyone else’s
The amount of power you think a black man has over a demographic of ppl who insisted a senile white man was “the best and most productive president we’ve had in decades” is SEVERELY overestimated
1) Obama successfully intervened in the primary to boost that senile white man and then told everyone his dementia was just “a bad night” lol 2) 60% of the country likes him www.politico.com/news/2025/02...
He’s not your slave and he doesn’t have to work for you for free
This is where we are finding out that at the core of it, none of the wealthy are on our side. We ourselves are powerful though.
No, they don’t. Both Barack Obama and His wife worked on the campaign trail. Michelle Obama did so while grieving her mother. Having been there, I can tell you that shit sucks. I actually came on this app to see if you took this foolishness down, as you are being dragged on Threads. But…
You can safely assume if they haven't already spoken up, they're not on our side. Y'all need to realize the Dems are a part of this.
Michelle Obama was on Kylie Kelce's podcast yesterday talking about some of their hypocrisy and the issues with stuff going on. Maybe you're not keyed in enough? Or maybe it's his election that broke white Americans brains & they're taking precautions. They already gave us 8 years of their lives.
Look I'm never going to cheer for the Obamas but you are doing some delusional mental gymnastics right now trying to make *them* the problem with current events. As if them speaking up right now would solve anything, even if they were the types to speak up, which they've never been. Move on, man.
Remember: Politicians owe you nothing 😉 Obama can autograph his little brackets in his home while people get sent to an El Salvadoran gulag for protesting current day Volkswagen ca. 1937
Maybe they’re all in on it? www.tiktok.com/t/ZP82XNw5y/
I would tell you to delete this however I’m sure you enjoy the numbers to your Skeet even though you’re getting dragged.
no
They gave their best years to this country. Our response? Trump and MAGA. Black Americans owe us white folks absolutely NOTHING.
Barack(because HE was the president,and Michelle was not a member of his administration)left us with a strong economy and a sterling reputation on the international state, and this country shit on his work. He came out of retirement 3 times to try to save the country from itself. When is it enough?
Exactly
This is a really garbage take. Good thing your opinions don’t represent Media Matters because this shit is dumb as hell. Would it be nice if they were right alongside Bernie and AOC? Sure. But it’s not their duty. What the fuck are you doing, exactly, to assist with the struggle against tyranny?
Oh piss off, you first... direct your ire at those burning down the country instead of tapping into your phone.
No. White people, who have voted majority Republican every election since LBJ signed the civil rights act, should be booed. We’re who did this, not the two Black people who did more for us than any potus/flotus, even under constant obstruction, harassment and threat.
So we're blaming the best President in decades about our latest vote tally?...fucking stupid
Barack and Michelle Obama are not your political mules. Instead of making demands of them, call out your racist white friends and family for voting for Trump! BTW, we’ve noticed how white liberals and leftists have only demanded the Obamas and Kamala Harris. White liberal racism is real.
Tim Walz and Bernie Sanders are out there right now being loud, and I think we’re all very glad Hillary Clinton is not
It sucks how white people confronting their relatives and a the guy who was president for nearly a decade using his political capital are mutually exclusive. If only there was a way to do both.
I don't have the reach and influence of Obama. If I were a popular two-term ex-President I would speak up if I cared about America.
The reach, influence, popularity many of you have tried your darnedest to destroy as you’ve relentlessly attacked, smeared, disrespected, blamed him & his unelected Black wife for yrs. Such hubris that you think you get to make demands of the target of your vicious attacks as you cite his popularity
lolwut?
They worked their asses off every damn day for democracy. I think the people you need to focus your anger on are the people who didn't vote or who voted third party. You know,, who put us in this mess. Please, sit the fuck down.
Yeah those weddings weren’t gonna drone themselves
Thank you!
No they do not! They do not owe anyone shit!
You are a grade A asshole. Not the Clintons, the Gores, the Kerrys, heck, the Bushes? Just the Obamas. Cool, cool.
No they dont. Obama hasnt been president for eight years and his wife was never an elected official.
Wow, you realize they're not your political puppets right? What do you really want them to do at this rate?
Fuck off with that. They’ve done enough and been subjected to enough.
That doesn't look like the guy was warning everyone about Trump's fascism. Then again, maybe "Russian asset" Trump told him a really funny joke, and what better place for laughs than funerals?
Why are you only calling them out? They did their part during the campaign they were ignored!!!! Now it's black people's fault?? Black voters didn't get us here. Black people get criticized for always voting democrats.
President Barack Obama is not stupid.
Absolutely. WTF are they doing?
What the fuck is this fucking shit? Bruh, fuck you.
I’m pretty sure they are more positively active then constituents that are actually serving in office now. That’s the sad truth is the politicians we voted for aren’t fighting back
They would have to show up somewhere for that to happen. Where are they? Does anybody know?
Something is wrong with you based on who you're trying to shift blame to.
And where’s this energy for George and Laura, Bill and Hillary?
Stop blaming the former black president and his wife who hold no official position for the problems that could be solved by white people if you all wanted to solve said problems. Get your ppl in order.
MMFA brain rot
I offer this graph from PBS in support of this statement. www.pbs.org/newshour/pol...
Which also proves Amerikkka is more sexist than it is racist. Like always..
I say this all the time
Tired: It's time for those old politicians to Pass the Torch to a new generation! Wired: We are helpless and only the old politicians can save us, where are they??
Exactly. Figure out what you can do and then do something.
Wow, what a great way not to help anything at all right now, Andrew. Thanks so much.
Yes but more the former President less the former First Lady
Fuck you white man.
Of all the people to blame, how do you pick them?
And here we witness, a man attempting the incredible act, of out asshole-ing an actual Asshole.
I hate to agree, but jesus christ the silence is deafening.
Yeah, they weren't silent throughout the 2024 campaign. They were loud at the convention. White people chose Trump. They show up and Trump will direct all of the anger of what is going on towards them, and whites will buy it. They are doing us a service by staying out of the way.
I know that is probably true, but if everyone's afraid to say something, then nothing will get done. But I get your point. Just don't think it should stop them right now.
Why aren’t you calling on Bush or Clinton?
I am. I was responding to the original post
This is some of the weakest shit I've ever seen and I'm alive in 2025 my guy, do better
Because you weren't paying attention.... #ObamasAtDNC youtu.be/TIbvZ6jN0c4?...
Respectfully…. Shut the fuck up about the Obamas
Fixed it: every single wealthy, powerful and influential person on our side could use their wealth, power and influence to fight in this moment but ultimately it’s a movement of the people, for the people, by the people. We don’t need/want a lefty Musky.
This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve read. Check yourself before you wreck yourself.
1) Pretty sure Michelle Obama never held office and doesn't owe you a damn thing. 2) Barack Obama has been a private citizen for 8 years. 3) Any smoke for George W. Bush or do you just do Black Democrats?
We already knew Bush was a coward.
Bush is fine with fascism. He probably wants it. Obama, one assumes, does not.
Jesus, lady. One of the most respected and revered Democrats ever is saying nothing, and you're focusing on his color rather than his class? With a side of 'whataboutism'? Wealthy Democrats are fine no matter who is in charge. Bernie Sanders and AOC are doing it. Why isn't Obama? Biden? Schumer?
What do you think they could say that will change things right now considering America couldn't be bothered to listen to everything they were saying during the election campaign?
Wtf? They owe you nothing.
No one owes us anything. When they have shown up, people clap and nod their heads and then shit on them with their votes They've done all that was asked and then some. We've done this to ourselves
You get it!!
Followed
Talk to him Cindy!!
“No one owes us anything” jfc medieval serfs had more self-respect and assertiveness than this
If you think that all the apathetic leftists and MAGA people are going to come out of a haze at hearing Obama speak as if they haven’t voted against his legacy or actively call him a war criminal, you are sorely mistaken.
I actually think anyone who was elected to the most powerful position in the United States multiple times owes us something. Doesn’t anyone with the power to help the country owe us something? I’m a private citizen and I feel like I owe the country something, why wouldn’t a former President?
Then call on George Bush who's in the same party to do something.
Let em know Cindy!!!!
That's it!! Election Day was the time to cancel maga, but the yts chose otherwise.
This is for you and your followers. Good day! bsky.app/profile/dear...
So many of my folk have swallowed the Kool-Aid… So many in fact, they don’t feel like “my folk”. But I promise you I will not stop trying. Thank you for this, sir.💙
Stfu
For fucks sake Andy.
As if any of this is their doing. They did what they could in the moment. As you know they’re private citizens. Save those boos for the current sellouts among the withering party, and the uplifters of white supremacy everywhere.
Or, you might just be another clueless racist dickhead. Yes, that must be it. THEY OWE YOU NOTHING, DIPSHIT
Reporting you for slander.
Excuse me, they relentlessly told you and tried to get people out to vote. Now black people are being erased and cancelled so are you showing up to that fight? And did you ever?
Lol how your go-to is the Obama’s and not the Clinton’s.
It did, but it’s not us. We’re asking a powerful public speaker with moral credibility, political credentials, and an image of ethical character to use those powers for good. People are framing this like “demanding Black labor” when it’s actually “the only former president worth anything is Black”
I’m convinced it’s a bunch of foreign trolls running a psyop because people cannot be this obtuse.
No, they shouldn't. They went out, showed up, unnecessary, I might add, to tell all Americans about the dangers of a second trump term. Warned of everything out in the open. Project 2025, corruption, loss of healthcare,etc. American voters let THEM down. They and their children are in danger.
How about George W Bush? Where is he? Still painting his feet?
Funny how W is the only former president whose security clearance Trump did not revoke
Nah. Ppl are starting to wake from their Fox Propaganda coma, but on the economy, not their racism that elected Trump. Nothing could send them running back to drink more Kool-Aid like the Black President they were trained to despise. Like Pavlov’s dogs. Say “Obama” and the Magats foam at the mouth.
I mean. Do you remember the reaction to their presidency by the people who look like you? Calling them nigger, hanging nooses, folks still think Michelle is trans because she’s physically fit, etc. Please shut the fuck up and boo the people who allowed you to be so dumb.
They’re only mad the Obamas (who very presciently forewarned re: this exact outcome & repeatedly pleaded with voters not to let it happen) are living their lives as private citizens & not out here for them to attack/disrespect. Same people making demands still smearing & calling them “war criminals”
Yuppppp. They act like the Obamas would change anything. People said they don’t give a fuck about marginalized people by voting for Trump or not voting, despite the Obamas campaigning. If they didn’t listen then, why would they listen now?
Thank you. This is the truth and the best response.
Shut up, Andrew. They did their part, they warned everyone who would listen. And white people ignored their every word and voted for Trump. Take your anger out on those people, they are the ones who need to be outraged and in the streets. They made this mess, they can help clean it up.
Looking at your TL, you're not a serious person. You're a petulant never-was and, frankly, an embarrassment.
I think you have identified the wrong villains
Libs are as loyal to their figureheads as MAGA is to Trump and Co. They’ll never criticize the ones with power, and clearly use idpol to shield many of them from criticism. You’re right, obviously.
White ppl have audacity when your parents most likely voted for Trump and you’re gonna be at the 4th of July bbq yucking it up with them. FOH
Privileged white dude has thoughts on the obligations of black men and women
No. What a ridiculous idea.
Donald Trump is CLEARLY a white people problem. "DEI" initiatives are being erased swiftly, and resegregation is happening. Why do you think these were the first acts from Trump? because they are "low hanging fruit" for white people. There are racists across every group within the political spectrum
and you singling out the only Black president AND his wife (who didn't serve in office) to save the day, as if they are some magical negroes... this is the subtly that escapes white people all the time. they really don't get what it's like being black in this country.
the ONLY reason we have Trump is because of white people. and they need to fix it.
You’re wrong. Obama helped Biden, a white man who went to bat for segregationists and called Barack a good black, win the Dem nominee in 2020 over Bernie. Biden went on to have one of the worst presidencies ever which helped Trump posit himself as someone who’s going to change the broken system.
1 Black man is as responsible as more than half the white people in this country? Truly?
he’s being singled out as the only living democrat ex-president. he could be the loudest voice to rally the opposition party. please.
You deserve to be relentlessly ridiculed for your stupidity and racism.
tbf everytime they talk they make things worse
Bad Take of the Week.
You sound ignorant.
Oh fuck off. Go boo your Hamas humping pals.
White American voters put us here. The First Black Potus & his family told us what was coming. White Americans *still* voted for this. If BO & MO deserve boos for warning us, what do White Americans (who purposely chose harm 4 the rest of us) deserve?
no www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11...
This is a rhetorical question because the premise is pointless. We need to be strategic with our passion & use it wisely.
Ok let’s say I accept your premise - if not for the destruction of the constitution, what then merits strategic deployment of Obama’s “passion.” Give me a fucking break.
Don’t believe me? White leftists loveeeee to call Obama a war criminal. Yet you think that him speaking to them will convince them to vote in 2028?
Y’all act like Trump’s supporters or apathetic leftists will just wake up upon hearing Obama and be like “YEAH! EXACTLY!” They literally voted for, or refused to vote against, a man who claimed Obama wasn’t born in America. Clearly, Obama’s presence does not matter that much to them.
The Obamas’ warned us TWICE not to vote for Trump. They did their part. People didn’t listen.
You have extraordinarily low expectations for the first black president - some may even call that a form of… “soft bigotry.”
That is absolutely not even close to enough to count as “their part”
After the first trump term, people shouldn’t need to be warned. They knew what he was about. I can forgive the first time, but now. Yall knew what he was about and then still voted for him. Talk to your family members and get offline
Im not asking them to talk to *us* anymore, this shit is out of our hands. They should be talking to freaking Schumer, etc.
And dealt with far, far more abuse, put themselves in more danger, than I think most of us white folks can possibly comprehend.
wut
Right! Also, no one is complaining about Bush Jr. This is his party and he has not said one thing.
You’re right that no one is complaining about a right wing war criminal who stole an election to speak out against fascism. Now go back to trying to color inside the lines.
I went for a brief spin through the “dark web” during Obama’s first term. Beyond horrific, especially what was said about Michelle and their girls. The threats were so much worse than anything I could imagine and I read tons of serial killer fiction. They gave almost everything and owe us nothing.
Lol they don’t look at that shit - they have unfathomable security. They have profited tens of millions of dollars from their efforts as the Head of State and they live in unimaginable comfort and luxury. The country stands at the brink of an existential crises - he has a fucking responsibility.
Im sorry you’re a big fucking baby doing some weird performative deference thing online - WE ELECTED HIM FOR US, he OWES US for putting him in a place to lead. Grow the fuck up. This isn’t a Robin DeAngelo book signing.
Both can be true. White propel suck and the Obamas need to help us.
You don’t want Bush or Clinton?
No, that would be good too, but those people are damaged goods compared to Obama
Obama tired! He came in and fixed the SS he had been left. He warned everyone and still here we are. Call damaged goods to help. They’ve had some time to rest. 🤣
I could get in trouble for answering that honestly
What’s astonishing is the number of white people who have come to the conclusion that their relatives aren’t going to change. But then going straight to booing black people yourself deserves some introspection.
This x a million.
Obama sold you fascism in a dignified package. Americans have very short memories, neoliberalism paved and ratcheted us all the way into fascism instead of opposing it. Feckless by design.
I’m a white person and I assure you I never voted for this shit. Please don’t lump me with MAGA scum.
Only hit dogs holler...
Lmao Obama did everything in his power to make way for Trump
Only if you're one of those klansmen that claim he made everything racist in America by getting elected.
Every amercian president since Reagan has been on a straight path towards fascism and Obama was no different. Child detention camps were built under Obama, public services were gutted under Obama, Israel's atrocities were funded under Obama, police budgets were increased under Obama.
You have serious "divorced man" energy, but this time your ex is reality
Yes Reagan and also please remind those ppl that Barack Obama still holds the record for the most amount of Presidential death threats. And Obama had higher job approval and approval overall popularity ratings than Trump.
Very clearly.
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He did. Repeatedly. That he was cordial in person doesn’t change that. But I think you know that.
that's all well and good but it's all hands on deck time right now. his absence - and Biden's, and W's, and Clinton's - are noticeable.
and honestly @ndrew.bsky.social (and all of us) needs to put the onus on them too
Honestly, why? They told the American people repeatedly. Repeatedly. 90 million Americans did not bother to get off the couch and vote in the last election. Given those facts, why would they bother.
Because they have political capital and they’ll be impacted by fascism too. They aren’t some random neighbors he’s the former fucking president. Stop being dense.
Four years under Trump wasn't enough to convince people to vote to stop him from becoming president again. We were told repeatedly what a horrible person he is, including from him and still that didn't work. Yet, you want them to spend time doing the same thing, the same thing that was ignored.
Ok in that case I’m gonna stop caring and just let the fascism take over since apparently there’s no point in fighting back and resistance is futile. Thanks for clearing it up for me.
Oh gosh no, quite the opposite. You should not stop caring or fighting back and resisting. But, I believe we should stop expecting the people who already did their job, did it repeatedly and were ignored by voters to keep doing more for us. Seriously, would you if you were them?
Oh my stars! Are you going to be okay without the person who tried this 5 months ago with little success?? Do you need a couch to faint on??
2% fewer people voted than in 2020. Somehow, 81 million didn't swing the election. If a 2% swing can cost elections, then the issue was that those voters weren't engaged decades earlier.
And I guess we’ll see how engaged voters are in getting back all that we have lost & will continue to lose. But if voters are fine with losing more *sacred* rights & institutions while uplifting the 1% over everyone else, perhaps it is progr*ssives & L*ftists who are out of touch.
When the leadership of the party is doing what they're doing now, you really think it's progressives who are to blame rather than the people constantly chasing "moderate" conservatives?
Voters voted for what they wanted. Now we love on our families, do what we can & move accordingly.
They did. For months. Should they do an instagram reel digging around their shed looking for their pitchfork and torches to ‘lead the fight’? Give me a fucking break. 77 million people chose this.
in typing this tweet you're literally doing more than they are right now sorry you have such low standards but i think i'm kinda getting it
First, you don’t know what they’re doing. They could be helping with high dollar donors and not saying much about it. That last bit is designed to upset me but I don’t really get upset at strangers on the internet so I’m gonna breeze by it and repeat that you’re doing it wrong.
Heaven forbid they actually accept the responsibility that came with running for office and winning for decades instead of just accepting every benefit thereof for the rest of their lives and sitting quitely.
It's not their job to fix our broken electorate. The Clintons, Bidens, Bushes, Obamas, Harrises all have one thing in common: they hold no elected position.
Demanding Obama act more like the royal families of America is so fucking on the nose for this thread, holy shit
How many ex-presidents do we need to line up before y’all realize that people know what the right thing is and actively choose not to do it? It’s not like Obeezy has the master key and just won’t use it. This is a problem he can’t fix.
what part of "all hands on deck" do y'all not understand
The part where you're comfortably white in America in this year of our Lord, 2025. My friend, a cop could be forgiven for mistaking you for JD Vance, so you'll have to forgive me for laughing at your pearl clutching. Bless.
that's funny because i have an identifier in my handle - and a government issued one in my wallet, and i don't mean the US government - that identifies me as Cherokee. as does my address. as does my medical history, etc. etc. any other racisms you want to throw out man
Omg ok bro. Feel free to get the point or not to, it won't bother me. Keep up the defense of the person who blames black folks specifically. That's all you're doing here in this thread. Bye now
Why do you feel the need to point out obama? hmm... seems pointed to me.
I don't mean to speak for anyone else, but...Carter is dead, Biden is too senile to be effective, W is just as much of a monster as Trump, and Clinton is a sex pest. Obama is the only living ex-president worth anyone listening to, and he's a better speaker than any of the others ever were.
And if speeches were where the comms war gets fought, I’d agree. But it isn’t. Not anymore. It’s social media like IG/Tiktok, it’s YouTube channels or podcasts, etc. Have you ever heard Obama podcast? Not good. If speeches and showing up were enough, we’d have a President Harris right now.
He skeeted his march madness bracket yesterday. Is that cordiality or just the act of a man who lives an unaffected and incredibly comfortable life?
And this photo is from Jan 2017. When we all knew he sucked, but we were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
The entire fucking point is that they have been completely insincere. If they thought Trump was as dangerous as they say, they would be trying to help the country, not giggling with Trump every time they are in the same room together and sitting by idly while he dismantles the country.
They don’t giggle with him every time they’re in the room together please stop being dramatic and direct this energy toward someone who actual holds office and can actually change things.
I have like 50 posts on here calling Schumer a fucking coward. Now what?
I was responding to the other guy to agree with you about how unserious the party js
Double it. Triple it. Until you don’t have time for bullshit posts overstating things you’re not working hard enough.
"Overstating things"
Thanks for stopping by
You want me to do more than fucking Obama is doing right now? Jesus Christ.
YES. OMG YES. Finally you get it. He’s gonna suck the air out of whatever room he’s in. You can be places he can’t be. You can door knock without needing the Secret Service, for example.
He literally said it thousands of times
Before or after his giggle sessions with Trump?
That’s a photograph of a classy president being cordial to velveeta voldemort.
I think you need to look up what "cordial" means.
It means you have way too much time on your hands😂
Yes! YTs-your complicity got us here! Along w/INEQUALITY! Aggressively call your white complicit, racist, ignorant, misinformed, white person to the effing carpet! Maybe that will get us out of this-maybe. BC trump‘S ABILITY TO USE THE RACE CARD/RACISM to get votes, SHOULD’VE NEVER BEEN POSSIBLE! 🤯
Obama has quit on America. He could speak up and rally the country. But he's quit. He's rich and doesn't really care about the rest of us anymore. And here you are making excuses for him.
Imagine believing this, as an adult. Fix the elephant in the room, and call on Clinton and GW to help you while you’re at it.
Imagine having more power than anyone to stand up to Trump and change public opinion and doing... nothing. Imagine looking at what Trump is doing and then deciding to yourself... Nah, I'm good. Dude just up and quit.
They’ve made their beds, now they gotta lay in that mf. NOW, they’re begging for solidarity n shit. Where was the “solidarity” they provided throughout the election?
Think the problem is more with the 77,302,580 people who voted for Trump, sunshine.
MMFA Brain Rot case
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Your ignorance is staggering. Barack & Michelle have done more than most! Their service and time is deeply appreciated. They owe us nothing! Former republican politicians.. they paved the way for this. They're STILL doing that - knowing that he's burning it all down - afraid to do their jobs.
They, along with many others, warned about the dangers of Trump and people didn’t listen. You could say the same thing about the Clinton’s as well.
This is a bad take
Bush and Clinton too? Or just them? This is a weird take.
Exactly!
Yeah politicsgirl on youtube said this way better than op. Really weird (and honestly racist) of op to single out only two influential political leaders who happen to be poc and not all former leaders of the united states like politicsgirl did in her youtube short.
Yes. Obviously. But the Obamas are much more influential.
David, please.
are you saying they're not?
No I'm saying it's interesting that people want to criticize the Black people and not the white people in the exact same position.
In protest, you should chew and swallow a pound of carpet tacks every day until they agree to take responsibility.
Boo yo mammy! You want Obama to say something, then what? Before you go with your knee jerk shyt do you ask yourself AND THEN WHAT? What if something happens to his fckn family will Andrew come help? Goodness no, Andrew won’t do shyt but skeet about booing the Obamas..ergo fck Andrew!
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The White people agreeing with this shit: Y'all are truly DISGUSTING AND EMBARRASSING.
They just keep reminding me over and over again why I would rather watch this whole thing collapse on top of them.
frfr
As always!!!
Your mother deserves to be booed for birthing someone this blatantly idiotic.
😂😂
THEY WARNED US REPEATEDLY. Y'all promptly went out after having Barak Obama as a 2 term president & voted for the Orange Shitgibbon. They warned us some more. Y'all voted for the Felonious Fuckmuppet AGAIN. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT BLACK PEOPLE TO DO WHEN YOU PEOPLE KEEP CHOOSING THIS SHIT?
They think we're they're mammies.
Yup. White folks make a mess and Black people are expected to clean it up while being gracious and respectable with every fucking ridiculous demand. All the privilege in the world and these people have neither the self awareness of a sea sponge nor the common sense God gave a goat. EXHAUSTING.
On behalf of the white folks like me, I apologize. What black people and other people of colour put up with from the smooth brained bigots is something I could not if I were in their shoes.
The best apology is changed behavior. Y'all have got to get your people together and have a come to Jesus moment if all of us are to make it out alive. This administration is happy to destroy us all to get what they want. Don't be useful tools to your enemy.
Funny how you want Black America to fix something we never broke😒
Every time.
George W Bush gets a pass, though? As a Republican, he might make some headway with MAGA. That War Monger blob has been MIA since he left DC.
This post is about pancakes, stop talking about waffles
Sickening take. Delete this nonsense.
He won't because he's a red-brown horseshoe alliance tankie and tankies are, along with libertarian techbros, the OGs of Bluesky. They're united by their rabid hatred of mainstream Democrats and the Congressional Black Caucus.
No smoke for anybody else but the Obama's.. gee, I wonder why.. 🤔 what could it be..???
the last two white Democratic presidents have brain worms
“Dance, monkey” - white internet socialist
That's bullshit. He paid his dues, been paying. Why in hell in this atmosphere would he be "that guy"and put his family in harms way? For a country too stupid to follow the crumbs, to see what MAGA meant? Many that voted Trump will regret it. It's Congress and the courts now. We were warned.
Nope. White people elected Trump. Boo your family.
No no no First of all it is true of all ex presidents that when they cede power they CEDE POWER. The pendulum of power once again went to the right (unfortunately). Ex presidents do not interfere. It’s up to those politicians in terms and the American people. We are getting so divided it’s scary.
I disagree. However, boo Biden all you want because it was obvious that a second Trump term would be a catastrophe, and nothing whatsoever was done to mitigate it. Furthermore, had Biden kept his commitment to be a one term president, perhaps the election would have had a more favorable result.
JFC All ppl had to do was show up and vote. That was the plan bc who TF wanted another 4 years of Donald & AFTER Jan 6, After convictions, AFTER Project 2025. We were told over and over. Stop w your nonsense.
Why?
And for all the war crimes
Dude, black people don't owe you anything.
The entire party is deeply unserious when it comes to anything besides fundraising and figuring out how far right you can drift before losing an election.
Barack and Michelle Obama were anything and everything but silent when it mattered - and a whole lot of y'all told them to STFU and go away. But it is interesting that of all of the people you think should be saying anything, you only called out the Black couple.
Clock it
Why isn't this heat put towards the Republican congress who could stop this right now? Obama, Clinton, Harris all warned us what would happen and white voters voted for this anyway. And just what do you think Obama could do? They've sacrificed so much already. We need to stop being lazy Americans.
lmao jesus fuckin christ these fucking liberals man, why are they all like this?
and why are you protecting a fool who drunk texted an invite to a meeting about an attack, to someone from The Atlantic. You seem fine with that Hegseth the drunk did this, but You complain about democrats, what's next, someone drunk texts russia, our launch codes?
you forgot to accuse me of hating waffles
who on earth does not like waffles?
bad people, that’s who!
so you are saying that Nazi's hate waffles?
Crazy thing is Obama straight up warned you guys, your people voted for this lol
he's part of the reason why we're in this mess. but sure.
Crickets
Explain how so I can show the clips of him AND his wife telling you not to vote for the dam guy
People who want Obama to assist in this situation are not people who support Trump
Ok. Then he spoke up. During the campaign. Which you guys ignored. And now you demand he speaks.
Hey real quick, type in the gif search “Obama Drinking Water”. Weird, right? Has he never drank water on camera before?
Feels race based bc the strategy makes no sense. What different demographic will they reach? The ppl who still hold the Obamas in high regard are NOT the ppl who need to be reached the most. Where is Bush? Cheney? Rice? O’Neil? Repubs who held prominent positions need to speak out.
Maybe it "feels race based" to you but to the rest of us it "seems like the popular former leader of the opposition party should be doing anything at all to speak out against a Nazi takeover, instead of just posting playlists and March Madness bracket"
“Why isn’t this former leader who failed to change the results of the election, speaking out even though it may turn off the same people who need to be reached. This is wildly nonstrategic, but I’m scared and angry. Therefore, we must act without considering the impact.”
(Btw, the impact isn’t about race.)
Why aren't the Republicans speaking out about Republican overreach and destruction of the government? I think the question implies the answer
Cheney endorsed Harris during the election…
i think everyone with social capital ought to speak out. and yet, liberals get really defensive about the Obamas. why is that?
I don’t care for the Obamas. It’s not strategic. They won’t rally anyone. Bernie and AOC are strategically going out to rally both leftists and disgruntled centrists by focusing on class issues to put pressure on their reps. Obamas would do more harm than good bc both those groups aren’t fans.
barack has the charisma to move mountains, so he should keep using it. i just have higher expectations for him than someone like cheney or bush who are both utterly contemptible. i don’t expect them to do the right thing.
Who will Obama reach that is most likely not taking some sort of political action thru voting or contacting their representatives? They spoke out during the election and it didn’t work. There were no mountains moved. This is idealistic. Bush and Obama both aren’t “good” people.
so you believe if he were to say, apply pressure to schumer for being a weak minority leader, it would achieve nothing? election years aren’t the only time they have sway. and i will note i never said he was good, merely that i have much higher expectations of him than i do of conservatives.
He already pushed Schumer to pressure Biden to quit the election and then they still lost the election. Do you think Schumer is going to listen to him the same? Strategically ineffective. Excuse me for misreading initially. I don’t expect better except for their social views tbh.
i dont think being purely results based is accurate here. having biden step down for harris was 100% the right call, regardless of outcome. but luckily, schumer doesnt even have to listen. obama can motivate the rest of the party that wants change, and that can help get chuck replaced. imo at least
the base of the mountain holds up the rest of it. and that base is definitely there, 2020 proved it. you just have to reach them. and i believe obama is a person who could almost do that single handedly for the democrats. not sure anyone else in the party comes close. dem leadership is so old rn.
The qualifier of “that wants change” is why I disagree with you on this being effective which is why I think AOC and Bernie reaching that particular demographic is what’s the best strategy. It is putting the fear in Congress (both parties) ab loss of power the most, that’s these ppl’s sole motivator
Which is why I find it so weird to direct it at Obamas and not ppl who more centrists and/or leftists would listen to. Agree to disagree, but I appreciate the good faith conversation.
to be very clear, its not only directed at the obamas, that’s just who happens to be the subject of this thread, and is also the most well known. everyone else in the party also has their own responsibilities. have a good one.
There are a ton of people who voted for both Obama and Trump. Low information voters who would actually listen to what he says, even though they didn’t vote for the candidate he endorsed. And those are the people who need to hear it the most because the rest of us are already tuned in.
We’re agreeing on the primarily the same issue, just not the strategy that’s useful.
Which ones are the liberals? Dems or Reps?
Wild how you’re ignoring all the Black people saying ‘don’t be a racist ass’ while showing yours proudly.
black people aren't a monolith and they are not your shield.
Never claimed they were either, weird.
and yet you're acting as if they were, curious!
Damn, sorry about your illiteracy kid.
Wish my comment with valid feedback got this attention
That would require something more than ‘El oh el libs r bad and the real racists’.
A better use of time would be to "boo" EVERY white person that voted for this including family friends neighbors. I wanna see it! I wanna see yall hold each other to account in public, at yall jobs, churches, in the streets, fucking everywhere. Then maybe we'd sacrifice the Obamas to this shitshow
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You are one dumb bitch
But when has khive ever had a single brain cell
Puppet avatar is upset. Go play with some crayons.
"sacrifice the Obamas" lmao
These people are fucking deranged
ABSOLUTELY!
Yeah they never bring that up. They want to point the finger at everyone else and every other community besides their own.
I'd like to see how many of them actually voted for a woman for president.
I think it is more useful to hold our leaders accountable rather than booing tens of millions of rando white people
The Obamas - private citizens, left WH 9yrs ago! What exactly would you be holding them “accountable” for? They did plead, presciently forewarn; said all that needed to be said, when it needed to be said & when it’d make a difference. They were ignored, attacked/blamed/disrespected, told to go away.
They are not private citizens, he is still called President Obama because it will always be his title. They put themselves in the public eye constantly, they are public figures.
Private citizens can be public figures: e.g De Niro, Jane Goodall. There’s only one president at a time even if all living use honorific. The Obamas have given generously of themselves for yrs & more than done their part. Odd how your malevolent ilk think you can smear/insult them into submission.🤔🥱
Nah fuck that, legally he's nothing but a citizen. Calling him President Obama is a respect and courtesy not a law. Little authoritarian in waiting is all you are here, deigning to assign blame. Fuck all the way off.
And when they stay out of the spotlight people scream, “They put themselves in the public eye constantly, they are public figures.” Also, a former president and the woman who married him are not the same. He took an oath to the country. She married him.
GTFOH
they absolutely did not plead or “presciently forewarn”. dude spoke a at some rallies for a month and then disappeared. he always was more interested in his own image than building a better world and everything since his presidency proves that
Odd how your malevolent ilk who viciously attack the Obamas & try to chip away at them/their popularity, are quick to demand the Obamas bail you out using the hard-won popularity you lot have tried to destroy. The Obamas are not your indentured slaves & owe you nothing! m.youtube.com/watch?v=5DGs...
I think as a society we need to cut the “owe you nothing” shit. Barack Obama was the leader of the free world for eight years, he does owe us something also, I didn’t realize OP mentioned Michelle - sure, her husband’s choice wasn’t her choice, I’m not going to ask her for anything
Nope; He owes you nothing. Not only has he served his 2-terms, your ilk never stopped attacking, disrespecting & telling him to go away. The Obamas are not indentured slaves to be ordered around in perpetuity. That’s not how it works. Your ilk hate that he’s not out there for you to attack & dump on
can you say something else instead of recycling the same 2-3 thoughts
What to say to one so deluded he won’t challenge his own MAGA-filled orbit of family & friends supportive of the russian asset(s) destroying our democracy, but instead deflects attention by blaming & making demands of the Black POTUS & FLOTUS (who left the WH 9yrs ago) who he’s spent years smearing.
These aren’t rando white people. I have “leftist” friends who jump at the chance to defend their MAGA family members. They deflect their family’s bigotry onto the system rather than confronting it, and thereby perpetuating the cycle.
not really the subject at hand but sure do that too
I'm going to boo people who helped Trump get elected by slandering Democrats and not voting. If you don't like it, too bad.
by “slandering Democrats” do you mean criticizing the Democrats’, including the former president’s, support of genocide?
Somehow you guys keep defending your efforts to elect more Republicans.
do you think you should support democrats no matter what evil shit they do and doing anything else is automatically helping republicans?
Why are you defending genocide in Ukraine?
Good point. Democrats who denied the violence of October 7th should be condemned. I also think defending anti- Semitism on college campuses is bad, and turning a blind eye to Putin 's kidnapping and attacks on Ukraine is reprehensible. It's vile that you aren't calling out genocide in Ukraine
Unless you're talking about former president Trump, who is now actively selling Netanyahu 2,000 lb bombs, allowing Netanyahu take the West Bank and allowing Putin to keep kidnapped Ukrainian children, you are slandering Democrats by throwing around the term 'genocide'.
it’s a genocide, hope this helps 👍
Stating something with condescension doesn't erase the effort accounts like yours made to shield your cohort from facts. Ukraine has been called a genocide, you ignored that. Israel has a right to defend itself from mass rape and kidnapping conducted by Hamas. Hope that helps.
have a nice day, please do some reading on the ongoing genocide in Gaza!
News flash: VOTERS elect their leaders. Tens of millions of rando white people got us here. White people will never take responsibility individually or collectively. Always looking to pin the consequences of YOUR actions on someone else.
They’re not my actions
But but but… why would it not be the last two term republican president holding his own party accountable? I’m sure you didn’t think about that dimwit.
Because he's a Republican hack and there's no reason to expect that he'd stand up to Trump, unlike the Obamas, who are ostensibly part of the opposition party. Unless you're admitting that the Obamas don't have any more of a spine than Republican hacks, which is seemingly true.
Also the Republican people voted Bush into office just like they did Trump. How is this the democrats problem to solve?? The voters forfeited democracy to that clown and now you want the “opposing party” to clean up their mess?
My point is that the anger and expectations are completely misdirected. Expecting previous presidents to do anything about the current administration is silly. There are people in positions of power NOW that are silent. Them speaking against him would be nice but what would that actually accomplish?
So you are saying we should expect Bush to listen to us more than Obama? That's your argument?
I don’t think either of them hold the power to do anything about the current administration. However, who the Republican Party will listen to is more likely to change anything than who will listen to “us”. Both parties stop doing that a long time ago.
And rather boo the majority of whites who continually vote for everyone’s demise.
You have lost your 🐇 ass mind... How about you boo your sister, sister -in-law, aunt, Nonna, Papa, brother, brother-in-law, uncle and cousins for not voting Harris/Walz, cause that's why we're here...
I dunno man, I can think of 4000 people off the dome who deserve it more than the Obamas
Idk why you white ppl think black ppl owe you something when it's YOUR ppl who made the mistake. Talk to them, we've done our time.
This right here! Yt ppl need to stop asking Black folks to save us! Just stop!
The problem is the silence of white people who should be calling out other white people for supporting this bullshit administration. Our demographic is the problem.
Right! Why do I never see that on social media?
Black people are not here to perform optics for your comfort. The Obamas showed up and told everyone how dangerous putting 47 in office would be and to take action back when this could have been prevented. People didn't listen
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Yes, AND An entire generation is furious that someone ELSE hasn't stood up and forced a change. As one who grew up during the civil rights era this sense of entitlement that it's *other* people's job to fight your fight (so you don't have to) is the worst part of what's happened to the U.S.
not what optics means
Replies like this are why we will lose to fascism. Asking our ex president to stand up for democracy is “comfort and optics”? Like no lady, sorry but its time for him to come out to a podium and show america what a really president should be. Comments like yours are loser dipshit energy.
George Bush should definitely stand up for Democracy. We’re waiting b
If you ever expected GW to stand up for democracy, I dont know what to tell you. GW was the worst president in my lifetime. Biden is too old, Clinton has baggage and is too old. Who else is going to stand up? He was a great leader and these arent normal times. We need an adult in the room badly.
You should run for office.
My career maxed out as Superintendent of the Maryland State Police.
Optics? They are way okay with murdering Palestinians, Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, Iranians, Ukrainians, Russians. Obama doesn’t get a pass bc he is black. He loved killing with drones.
Yes, optics, bc if you feel that way about him, then the only reason you would want him to make any public statements now is for performance.
No actually I would like our leaders to speak up against genocide and pointless foreign wars. Thats not performance.
He is not your leader. He is a private citizen. Find your own damn savior.
Even better, these folks who whine all day on social media, why don't *THEY* get out and do things? The *public* needs to stand up
How do you know who is out doing what. Answer: you don’t
Obv I don't know what every person is doing -- I do assume the ones I've had convos with aren't pretending when they tell me that's the job of elected officials (to do it for them), or when they tell me they're "fighting back" by not voting for Dems
Hello! I wish they would pull back the rage and see how their logic about this is not making ANY sense.
This toxic and demeaning attitude is why your party lost to Trump not once but twice. It isnt me thats blinded by rage that takes energy I dont have. It is you. Posting your sarcastic pictures.
Your ignorance and assumptions is why you don’t have any progress. I don’t claim any party, for starters. Secondly, you can be mad at your season-less lifestyle but we use gifs over here for razzle dazzle. Your misplaced rage is hilarious 😂
Not razzle dazzle 🤣🤣🤣
Just a skosh 🥰☺️
You can dazzle yourselves with your own BS all you like. Your candidate was still humiliated to lose to a barking carnival clown who himself was trying to lose. Joe and Kamala were ticket poison.
Once a President always its President. Not just a private citizen. Are most citizens able to change the coastlines by their mansions?
Tell that to George Bush.
Don’t care for his warmongering either. Yknow. Bombing civilians doesn’t get magically less horrific when its the Blue team doing it.
Yes they are. And he is NOT the President. I find it very odd and telling that y'all asses never call out Bush and Clinton.
Clinton was relentlessly called out by the left for his bullshit work on the Kamala campaign. Telling on yourself if you’re oblivious to that
Oh Bill. Wasnt he called out for traveling to Michigan to tell Arabic voters that they deserved to have their people massacred?
Oddly didn’t prove to be a winning strategy
Stop deflecting. The issue is that he's not being called out to speak up NOW...the same way people continue to target Barack and Michelle Obama to speak now. Barack and Michelle took time out of their lives campaigning to prevent this shit. They owe America NOTHING so fuck off!
What do you think deflecting means
They helped destroy this country along with the primaries. He and Michelle can eff off if they are so compromised they can’t even take a stand against human extermination.
I don't understand your logic. I don't like Bush but would still want him to make public statements if it would positively influence public opinion. Why would it have to be about "performance"?
In THREE elections! They showed up in THREE elections to tell people how bad things were going to be under Trump. America voted for the guy who made a name for himself politically by saying Obama wasn’t an American, and everyone still voted for him. But somehow it’s their fault? Gross.
Do you see how only showing up during an election feels like the absolute bare minimum? It also comes across as incredibly insincere because if the messaging stop once he’s elected, it suggests a lack of genuine commitment to the message.
Yeah. We should expect nothing from our leaders. Good message 🤷🏻
What office are either of them in. Last I checked, they are both private citizens now who owe nothing to anybody.
I think this might come across as more of an insult to ex-presidents than you realize. We can pretend they’re irrelevant after leaving office, but that’s just not true—and honestly, it’s a bit disrespectful.
You're the only one who said irrelevant. I said private citizen. He doesn't owe us anything.
Lying on and demanding more from people who have always given more than you and yours is a hot entitled mess.
You didn’t even Google anything- and what’s scare is more than you liked your lying awful take. No wonder y’all are crashing out because Black people aren’t spoon feeding you anymore…
What?
Oh nothing- I was just calling out your lie that they “only show up during elections” because that is complete and utter bullshit. Oh And then I noted that the audacity of being mad at the Obamas (and lying on them) appears to come from the fact that we Black folks haven’t done what we normally do:
…put our lives, bodies, money, and communities on the line to help everyone else out of the mess we didn’t create…y’all are crashing out…what else could be the reason for being mad at the Obamas (rhetorical- we know why)
I’m not just mad at the Obama’s. I’m mad at all of them. Obama, Biden, Bush, Clinton, all of them. They all have a duty to be out there right now. Their silence is deafening.
He's not a leader, he's a private citizen. White people like you refusing to listen is part of the problem.
The audacity of entitlement. White people didn’t listen the first 12 times… I wouldn’t waste my time, or energy going forward. Own. Your. Shit.
Stfu
Speaking of doing the bare minimum, where was the rafucking do nothing left on Nov 5?
He wasn’t a candidate for three elections. He spoke out when he wasn’t on the ballot, only to be ignored. Y’all wanna blame everyone except the people who actually support this nonsense.
I’m not blaming them for the loss. I’m saddened that they went silent after it. Just because Democrats lost doesn’t mean their roles as a political leaders should vanish. Did Trump vanish after he lost in 2020?
Trump is a narcissist with an agenda who hadn’t been re-elected. He wasn’t going away. The Obamas are private citizens after serving the country for 8 arduous years. They can do what they want. They’ve earned that right.
If you were honest, maybe you'd see how ridiculous you're being. "If the messaging stops 18 years after he's elected it suggests a lack of genuine commitment." Name the former President who led a nationwide movement a decade afterwards and maybe we'll stop laughing at you.
I’m talking about the messaging he was espousing 7 months ago from the DNC. But okay. Make Obama seem as insignificant as you possibly can by referring to 18 years ago.
What was Obama elected to 7 months ago?
Oh my god, we’re just going in circles here. I never said anything about that. Every living ex-president should be out there right now doing their part—I don’t care if they served in the ’90s, 2000s, or 2010s. Who else has the kind of platform and influence they do?
Give me some good reasons why it’s such a bad idea for ex-leaders of this country to be vocal about what’s happening here? Why are we arguing about this?
We're arguing because exclusively ⚪ people decided to order the Black former President around. I believe the guy above said "they deserve to be booed everywhere they go"? Hint: if you have an opinion about a Black person/people, and every Black person disagrees, you should try to understand why.
Honestly, if it was "every ex President", I'd still think it was silly, but go on then. The fact people are singling out the Obamas tells us this call is coming from entitlement.
The bare minimum would be you getting your lazy, entitled, selfish, racist little ass up and marching instead of insisting the Black president that served this country AND has come out to warn your dumbass about Trump for the last three elections. Shut up and get to work, bitch.
Why don’t you care that George Bush is silent?
This is the stupidest thing I've seen all day and it's only 9:30 AM
Okay 👌
If you are actually dumb enough to think that the Obamas only come out once every four years, you have apparently been living in your mom's basement with no access to media.
Thank you. That comment was a whole idiocy clown show circle jerk for folks too lazy to at least check the Googles before embarrassing their whole lives.
then has the nerve to have “political news junkie” in his damn bio…FOH🥴
I have no more patience for people who hold a little computer in their hands and can't be bothered to look shit up
do you demand Bill clinton and bush show up? didn’t think so
Dance for us! People elected the Bard of Birtherism and you want to submit a list of demands to the Obamas? Maybe have a chat with White men about how 65 percent of them are gross.
Are you bitching about Bush? Obama owes us nothing. Grow up
I’m bitching about all of them.
What EXACTLY are they supposed to say? Other than we FUCKING TOLD YOU SO. Because they’re better than me as I would like that tattooed to my forehead. Warnings didn’t work, so now we have to deal with the burns from touching the stove.
Magical Leaders aren't going to swoop in and save the day here. The voters created this problem, and the lion's share of correcting it has to come from the voters.
They didn’t ONLY show up during the elections. But nice try that claim. I’m sure it sounds good from bot farm echo chambers.
What do you want him to do after we already elected him a 2nd time? Were cooked.
It's not their fault at all, but they could and should be doing more than they are doing now, which seems to be absolutely nothing And yes, Bill Clinton should be booed relentlessly too
Right! THREE!! And they want them to do what?!
It’s not their fault but where are they now
I don’t know this fool but blocked it. Reading shit like that post makes me crazy. It should go back to twitter hell with all the other racists
Criticizing Obama is racist?
It's not a criticism. At least not a good one.
“This uniquely influential and powerful man is staying quiet while our country is dismantled” is absolutely a valid criticism
It would be valid if I thought 4 months of silence after a major election loss was more than enough time to jump right back on the crusade. There's nothing that Obama can say right now that he hasn't already said during the election. It's kinda useless to jump back in an area where you'd be noise.
He and Michelle campaigned hard for Harris and against the felon but racism and misogyny prevailed. It revealed to us all just how fucking ignorant and backward a country we remain, despite all the breadth talent and intelligence that exists among us.
Calling for all to harass the ONLY Black man ever to become POTUS because a majority of white men voted for a known lunatic racist felon rapist. Fuck that. People calling for Harris to do something is also pretty rich. Maybe call on your own white male demographic to not be racist and misogynistic.
What's funny is that these folks aren't focused on people like Walz, AOC, Crockett, Sanders etc. Who are doing exactly what they want Harris and Obama to do. Highlight them and when Harris and Obama are eventually ready they'll jump in. It's all very unserious behavior formed out of desperation.
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Ok so why does Obama need to be boo'd? I don't even like the guy like that and he'd probably say something to piss you off anyways so why direct any energy towards him?
because he is very wealthy and very powerful and very influential and he should be using that wealth and power and influence in this moment imo
I think you’re used to Black people literally killing themselves for rights and expect that from them and we’re not doing that anymore. This isn’t a knock against you as racist, just saying what you might be accustomed to.
What influence? Over half of the country hates his guts or even are ambivalent. Dude's pull is very limited. Probably even more so for Harris.
Not only did they show up, but showed up with the weight of this racist ass nation on their backs - people not only threatened by their stances, but by the mere existence of their black bodies. Guaranteed the scorn they've endured as public servants is 100x worst than any white politician.
As I’m sure multiple others have already said, the only words you or anyone else are owed from the Obamas, Harris/Emhoffs, Walzes, Clintons or Biden are these: WE FUCKING WARNED YOU. Also, black people are not more responsible for the stupidity of the voters than anyone else, FFS.
Just here for the motherfucking ratio. Delete your account.
Go boo Clinton and FDR.
The lack of logic in this post is astonishing. Booing Black people because other folks are too stupid to. It’s in their own interest is racism and sexism and fascism. And nonsensical. They talked. They said everything. Y’all ignored them
Are you you going to relentless boo Elon everywhere he goes?
It would be a gift to the GOP. Dumbest idea I’ve seen for a while.
They did everything they could they got out there and practically begged people to vote for Kamala and people did not listen. There’s nothing more they can do.
White folks continuing to do any and everything but stand the fuck up. Surprise surprise
Why would you choose black ppl to speak to a bunch of white ppl who chose racism. Literally it's your own ppl
The problem with this kind of analysis is it doesn't actually fit the patterns. Had POC voting patterns in 2024 matched 2020, Trump wouldn't have been elected. The ONLY population that was more dem this cycle was white people. Everyone else was more Republican.
More than 50% of white ppl, the largest population of race in this country, voted for racism and hate. Nothing is wrong with my analysis. Ignoring racism and calling it other things is the problem. Not holding racist accountable is the problem. It's why we're here.
I mean why did POC choose to vote more for a white man in 2020 than a WOC in 2024? If we're calling the problem racism, it's not singularly a white problem here.
I'm not trying to own you, I really want you to consider that it might not be so 'clean' as 'white people ruin everything', because categorically white people are the only group that seemed more comfortable by your own parameters voting more for a WOC dem than a white good ole boy dem.
This isn't one dimensional, there's a LOT going on here. The real thing with the Obamas is they have a VERY public life of their own choosing and cash in on their rep, which is VERY good with americans compared to the only other living dems, Biden and Bill. Like there's a utility in Obama.
If you're asking "Why is Obama the one?" 1) He's very public and uses it to make money, which for many means he has a responsibility as a former president and public figure. 2) The only other two living Dem presidents are WILDLY unpopular, one was literally besties with Trump and told him to run.
To frame it your way, who is best to talk about racism? 1) The most popular Democratic president in living history, who is black? 2) The guy who did Strom Thurmond's eulogy? 3) The guy who killed a mentally disabled black man as gov to prove he was racist enough to run the country?
It doesn’t matter who talks about racism if the 2016,2020and then the 2024 cycles shows it doesn’t change white peoples voting decisions. Even if he gain more of them in 2020 and 2024. People of colour have rejected Trump in every election he has stood.
Baracks electoral victories in 2008 and 2012 were due to unprecedented turnout for POC and normative turnout from the republican base who assumed he was going to win based on the polling. While race was a factor he wasn’t contesting this virulent anti black mysoginist mainstream narrative,
That's... damn, that's actually really depressing. I knew Harris was a poor candidate for the zeitgeist, but I didn't realize she was bad enough to depress PoC turnout even when Trump was threatening to retake the White House.
You don't think Obama would be an effective leader of the majority who didn't chose racism? There are millions of people who didn't vote in November who he could reach but very few others can. If you think he could play a role in helping organize those people, why wouldn't you want him to?
If he wants to. But he's not an active politician. We need to call out elected officials to do their job. That's what they're paid for. That's what they are elected for.
Does that we not include Obama? I feel that as a resident (citizen too fwiw) I have an obligation to do what I reasonably can to protect myself and my community from fascism. Doesn't our obligation scale with our ability? Like someone homebound doesn't need to go to a march, but I should
Because he was the fucking president. If the 44th president was white it'd be the same call-out.
Lol. Delusional.
What's delusional about that?
And still popular as an addition. Bill is alive but he can't get butts in seats, him and HIllary's tour literally had to go on groupon before they cancelled it halfway through because it was so embarrassingly under attended.
I would use another word instead of 'booed' but yeah
Barack & Michelle don't owe you shit. They warned you, they told white ppl if you let that criminal back in power, he would destroy the world & 70 million of you couldn't get off your azzes to even vote. Put your face & body on the line & tell your white family, friends & neighbors to do the same.
No. The Obamas owe us nothing. They gave spoken their views, and I imagine they are supporting in actions we don't see they just aren't leading the charge. Leave them alone.
You are fucking pathetic. Just simpering and sniveling for establishment dems.
And the likes are so ⚪️
I have my own reasons for Obama hatred bsky.app/profile/htow...
I’m booing your post
I respectfully disagree. I don't think any of us are in a position to judge how the first black POTUS and FLOTUS should behave while white supremacists are actively destroying our democracy.
And, maybe I'm wrong, but it feels like it's even less the place of any of us who haven't lived the black experience to make any kind of judgment.
Capitalize the B in Black.
Thank you for educating me on this. And, again, I'm sorry for getting it wrong. How meta and ironic is it that because I haven't lived the Black experience, I fumbled a post about how those of us who haven't lived the Black experience need to sit the heck down sometimes?
My apologies.
Hit the nail on the head my guy 🤝🏽
Spot on with your observations though. Your common sense is appreciated
apastyle.apa.org/style-gramma... This may help for the future.
Thank you! That's helpful!
ALWAYS
I'm black. Obama bears some responsibility for this situation. For one thing, he pushed Joe Biden in 2020 and got everyone in line to endorse him despite Biden being practically invisible even then. His presidency and post-presidency is filled with miscalculations. He fucking owes us
I expect them to be righteously pissed off about it! Like the rest of us are!
You think they aren't? They told everyone what voting for Trump meant; people - mostly white people - didn't listen. Now that a white POTUS elected mostly by white people is conducting an explicitly white supremacist attack on our democracy, what would you have the Black former POTUS and FLOTUS do?
no. you expect them to fix the problem that your community voted in droves to bring about. find someone in the white community to be the change you want to see. the people who would listen to the obamas didn't get us into this mess.
Correction: You expect them to put themselves in the line of fire for the rest of you.
HELLO! Cause they not even calling for the Bidens lol. We talking two damn presidents and almost a decade ago. Hell they aren’t even calling out their congressmen and senators! It’s been “The Obamas and Kamala need to step up” not even acknowledging the racism towards them is the reason we’re here!
The Obamas did their part serving their country and protecting democracy. Now it's our turn. "Ask not what the Obamas can do for you"
Fuck. You. Straight, white, christian America got us into this mess and now you expect people of color to help get us back to... *checks notes* 2008 levels of "normalcy"??? The bullshit that they had to endure while in office and now liberal white America is crying for help. GTFO with that.
I got an extreme level of vile for pointing this out: Liberals should be the people of respecting boundaries, understanding consent - to come out and demand of others, of Marginalized identity, to do anything, is a betrayal of supposed principles. Freak out on MAGA. Stop lateral aggression.
Man, f you and all the yt people who expect him to talk now, after telling yall to vote for Kamala. His time is over, nothing else he can do.
If Harris had been worth a damn as a candidate and not sided with our enemies after telling us to shut up and take it, people would have voted for her more. I did, personally, but it wasn’t because I thought she’d be a good president or represent me or my interests. And it did nothing.
That's the problem with yall, he sided with the enemy of our country. Yall, really can't get past the best candidate for the country and not for yall 1 or 2 personal reasons is why we're in the bs. No candidate is perfect, so you choose the best overall and racism won out over best for the people.
She wasn’t the best candidate for the country, she was the least worst candidate for the country, and they are different concepts. They’ve been giving us candidates that only rise to “better than an illiterate fascist” for decades, people are sick of it, and nothing stops the Ds from doing better.
If I offer you the choice between a shit sandwich and a booger sandwich, which one do you want? Neither, right? Now what if I told you the sandwich maker had a whole deli behind them, but chose to make you a booger sandwich? Is it my fault they chose to make a booger sandwich?
How are you, an American, arguing that we owe politicians loyalty and not the other way around? Do you wish we had a king? Do you long to be a serf, a possession of your leader? Why are you willing to settle for scraps? Why will you not demand better?
And just because I suspect you can’t actually think outside of binaries or the Disney-brained idea that you can’t choose something and not like it, I voted for Harris. And every other Dem candidate, in every race, for every position who I was offered for the past 28 years. It did nothing.
You pick the best sandwich that will govern the best it's not that hard. The one that was chosen is not the best. If you choose Harris, this doesn't concern you. Think outside the box blah blah blah, where did king come from, makes no sense.
I want Barak and Michelle protected. They have already risked their lives and bodies more than you have in the past 15 years. They owe you nothing.
He sure did kill a lot of people with drones
Stfu
Hey I don’t like it either
Then do as Myron requests and stefu
No
So then you should be happy you don't hear from him. Correct?
Maybe he can redeem himself a bit. Interesting you don’t seem to mind all the brown people he massacred though
Do you give a fuck? Or is it only a clapback you use when dealing with Black folks?
I care about any innocent people slaughtered by a government, yeah. Weird to admit you don’t
And you show it by... Lol getting online.
Aren't you here too?
Yep, but I don't pretend that other people don't care about "innocents slaughtered."
Then I'm sure you're working to help those that need it. So what other people think shouldn't matter.
What I don't have time for is bullshit. Instead of scolding people on the socials roll up your sleeves and get out there. Lots of work to do.
White people, the demo that voted in the majority for Trump, need to be booed relentlessly for choice for this moment.
White people are certifiably insane
Right, everybody’s problem but theirs.
What?!? They were out there warning people all through the election.
They are not silent. They are not in office now. They are every day citizens like you and I leading everyday lives. Their voice is out there- but what is going on cannot be stopped if everyone doesn’t step up. We cannot pretend our way out of this president. We did in the past. Those days are gone.
No one that voted for Kamala Harris owes anyone a thing. That includes Chuck and Hakeem. None of us fucked up nineteen weeks ago.
I’m sorry, the leaders of the Democratic Party don’t owe it to us to do the work we elected them to do and they took an oath to do? That’s an impressively nonsensical take.
They were elected to legislate, not liberate. What oath do you think they took? 😗
They're making 6 figures and Bennies to do something about it. You're damn right they owe us something.
They're legislators, not liberators.
Their job is to LEAD OPPOSITION. Stop sticking up for bums that are ineffective at their jobs. Who do you work for on the Hill? That's why you're sticking up for these failures, right? #FireSchumer
what do you think people are asking for
Time to become leaders then. The old way doesn't work.
They're not the ones that broke the old way. It worked fine for centuries.
I assume you took history in high school... wanna try again?
Well "the old way" sure ain't working now. And that's all that matters. Adjust or die.
"centuries" buddy do you have ANY idea what america was like in 1850, 1900, 1950
Hey man great mugshot, also would you say the US was "fine" in 1925? 1825? Take all the time you need, maybe read some books
Lmao, you're labelled for transphobia and transmisogyny. No thanks to any of your weirdo thoughts about anything.
Oh ok then I guess fascism wins. Cool political party!
Maybe we don't need legislators right now then.
What's he doing exactly except yelling about shit we already know? He could be back in Washington actually doing something productive instead of putting on a concert.
Who is "he", exactly?
Pee pee poo poo
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris owe me over $20,000, actually.
Really? I'd like to see the check stub for that then.
They promised to forgive $20,000 of my student loans if I voted for Democrats in 2022. Still waiting on it, as well as the $2000 check they promised in 2020.
My brother in christ you voted for a genocide
Oh…a genocide Joe genius…how’s that working out for you bruh?
Ah, and useless Liberal. How is your easy scapegoat working out for you.
Lmao you really gunna sit here and be a Chuck Schumer stan? Right now? Lmaooooo
You voted for a genocide, and now you’re delighting in the destruction of the Department of Education. Hope making Netanyahu happy was worth it lol
This idiot, "we didn't do anything wrong 19 weeks ago," no, u guys have been ruining the country for fucking decades Ignoring the warnings from the left, attacking & marginalizing us, that liberal policies were going to lead us to tyranny n fascist oligarchy Michael Parenti Chris Hedges Chomsky Etc
The voters don't but those are elected officials that do owe us doing the job we elected them for. And at least Chuck is not doing that at all.
Nice try, bu no. If "both parties are the same", why is one being called upon to save everyone from the other?
I'm not saying both parties are the same. And in not saying they need to be superheroes, but they shouldn't be voting against the party and stabbing the house in the back after agreeing to vote a certain way.
Probably no one would have been more singularly held accountable for the collateral damage of a government shutdown than Chuck Schumer. I'm not going to attack him for having the "nerve" to not do so.
Nah, y'all fucked up decades ago and have been scootching right for as long. Hence, the death of your party. 😂
You do. We absolutely fucked up by supporting a woman who would rather cosy up to Right Wingers and protect her favorite genocide. We should have held her accountable but even then our duty to our fellow man did not end with that vote. You are a born again Christian thinking that vote saved you.
Drugs are bad.
Fuck off.
Hope Chuck sees this bro
Are we even sure Chuck voted for Kamala at this point
“I fulfilled my political obligations by voting for genocide so I get to be shitty to people whose lives are being ruined if I think they hold different opinions than me” is actually the perfect distillation of modern liberal politics
So should I put my feet up and say my work is done cause I cast a ballot?
I dunno. I think they’ve both done their time, and their time has passed. Grateful to them, but we have to stop looking to the very politics of hope and unity that couldn’t deliver us from all this. We need something new. Also I blame Obama for my texts being useless.
Are you on crack? Did you have a stroke? WTF are YOU doing besides sitting on your ass and whining?
"lover of democracy" "never give up" You should add "unless you're my heroes, then you can do whatever, anything or nothing, pass for you" Are YOU on crack? Do you not realize that Barack Obama saying something and her saying something might have a slightly different reach?
Are YOU on crack? Both Obamas said a LOT at the DNC and in the run up to the election. People are not listening. Jesus fucking christ on a cracker, you jackasses whining that someone else is not doing enough. What the FUCK are you doing BESIDES whining???
Jesus fuck... That was AUGUST 22 2024! 7 months ago! Bernie and AOC are doing it right. Barely anyone else is. You're clearly giving rich Dems as much of a pass as MAGA gives the Trusk admin. You probably think Schumer is doing a great job too, don't you.
WTF bro? Is this a joke? Delete this vile shit. And then fuck all the way off.
The Obamas don’t have to do anything and certainly don’t deserve booing. And I’m not sure it would help for either to be publicly condemning the current WH shitshow; it’s not their style and it would just make the MAGAs worse.
I respectfully disagree with you on this, they don't have to do anything. they went out and campaigned, they told people not to vote for him, it's not their responsibility anymore. This country hated them so much that they followed his president by electing that vile piece of shit.
what if we just boo you instead?
Yes, trump is all Obamas fault. He should somehow have fixed all this by now. He owes us big time because he used to be a public servant. How dare he have a private life after giving years of work to the public
It’s woke Obama derangement syndrome
And yes I mean this authentically
There is a literal argument I have seen conservatives say that because America rejected “moderate Romney” we had to go to Trump
he didn't say it's all Obama's fault bro. he is saying the Obama's are powerful and revered still.
They are certainly revered sure, but booing them for not having the solution no one else does doesn’t seem all that productive does it? Or is alienating allies a thing all Americans do?
White people, not the Obamas, created this moment; it’s incumbent on y’all, and not the Obamas, to solve it.
Without question his silence in particular is heartbreaking.
He literally begged your people to vote and let that birther win.
I’m not talking about them I’m talking about since.
Why are you mad at him and not Clinton or George? I haven’t heard a peep from either of them. Why is this an Obama to the rescue thing?
Because he’s Obama!
That’s actually not an answer. Because George is Bush! Because Bill is Clinton. You see how that doesn’t answer the question?
I do see. And it is what it is, that’s my second non-answer.
Why?
Because he stands for all things I believe in.
You deserve to be pilloried for the incredible effrontery of your demand that Black people who *do not hold public office* be jailed or sold into slavery in El Salvador because 90% of white actual elected officials have a sea cucumber's worth of spine amongst them
WTH
What do you want them to say though?
You definitely don’t want to start calling people out for the current situation. If so you should definitely be going after that 60% demographic that supported Trump but you still are choosing to ignore them.
White ppl need to be stepping up more in this moment
Shut your white ass up, they did their jobs already. What did you do to stop other white people for voting for Trump?
I honestly cannot believe someone can read that post and think someone means voter suppression. Do you all interact with real people.. ever?
Are you saying we should have done voter suppression, or that candidates have no responsibility to earn votes?
Did I say any of that? No. I'm saying exactly what I said. What did the OP do to stop other white people from voting for Trump? White people fucked this up and got the world into this mess. White people failed this planet.
You said “stop other white people from voting for Trump.” Preventing people from voting is what “voter suppression” means. You’re still dodging how the candidate didn’t tell people what they wanted to hear and promised to compromise with our enemy. Why doesn’t that count, serf?
In what world is stop other people from voting for someone voter suppression? Big stretch here. Letting racist uncle do it without consequences (like being removed from family events) = not stopping it. No one is suggesting suppression, cmon now. Both sides nonsense.
The one where we know what words mean. Let’s go back to the definition, shall we? to hinder or prevent the passage of : syn. CHOKE, OBSTRUCT; to keep from carrying out a proposed action : syn. RESTRAIN, PREVENT AND WHY ARE INDIVIDUALS MORE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT THAN PEOPLE WHO CAN SPEAK ON CNN.
That’s interesting, but I’m a human and can understand context of words being used. It is exceptionally obvious what he was saying.
“They did their jobs” .. “what did you do to stop white people from voting Trump” in the same sentence, of this thread should give clues to a human being what was being discussed. And if you were actually confused could say “oh ok, I get it, sorry for assuming you meant that” like a human being.
You also kept changing the language and putting words in peoples mouths to argue for the hell of it. He never said the things you said. You even adjusted “stop” to “prevent” for.. reasons? You aren’t attempting to even be a little intellectually honest.
Go fuck your dictionary, you pedantic white putz
Actually, let’s go one further: let’s give people a pass for saying explitly what they don’t mean, assume they meant “convince not to” instead of “stop”: BECAUSE I DONT FUCKING KNOW ANY TRUMP VOTERS, BECAUSE I’M NOT A PIECE OF TRASH WHO CONSORTS WITH WHITE SUPREMACISTS. Do better. If you can.
This is my ENTIRE point. I cut those people out of my life because that was part of the threat. They don’t get in my families life. I tried to stop them in ways I knew. Those that go to dinner didn’t, they aren’t, they should have tried to stop the vote.
You realize lots of us still have happy lunches with them? Don’t you think they could have done something to stop their family from voting that way that doesn’t entail voter suppression? You think stop in my question above could possibly mean voter suppression? On an individual level?
You think he was asking this Andrew fellow why HE PERSONALLY didnt suppress voting? You cannot be serious.
Wow, it's crazy how there are more white people than just the ones you know. Are you this publicly stupid all the time?
American exceptionalist claptrap got you genuinely believing, at apparently an innate-memory level, that systems have no power, only individuals do. They really will give a PhD to just anybody, huh?
This is total nonsense, my entire professional career is teaching about harms of systems. You just enjoy playing as AI, rather than being human.
"Convince people not to vote for" It's not the same as stopping people voting. You're welcome, hope that helps 🤦🏻
To be clear @flootzavut.bsky.social - your contention in the image below is he was asking Andrew if he suppressed peoples votes? Because that’s what you’re saying, “hope that helps”.
What counts as stopping? Hitting them with a bat? Kidnapping? Threatening? Persuading? Asking? We could look at some context clues. He said the Obamas did their job? Which of those did they do, how did the Obamas do their work in stopping people from voting Trump?
We could also ask him what he meant, that would be a respectful thought. Or we could do whatever you’re doing here, I suppose.
Hey dipshit, want to stop trying to tell me what I meant by my own words?
Also, did I say stop people from voting? No, I said stop them from voting FOR TRUMP. Read, it's so fucking easy 😑
“no but it’s what they MEANT” see the thing about debate, Doctor Vegetables, is that only the stuff you say counts. If you said the wrong thing, that makes your argument invalid as presented—thus, wrong. Doing a bad job counts as losing, actually.
Nobody said the wrong thing, you just don’t have the ability to follow threads of conversation. Your interpretation of what he said makes absolutely no sense in the context of the thread.
If I said “I tried to stop my uncle from voting Trump" You would interpret this to mean I… tried to steal his ballot and remove his right to vote? That’s a real thing you’re saying?
Counts as much as your kind expecting free labor from Black people... Been there, done that. Won a war about it. Carry on living a life where you spend weeks trying to nail down a decision because you're addicted to grievance though
It doesn’t have a thing to do with race on our end. He’s the only ex-president worth a damn. I honestly have no idea who you’re talking to with the bit about indecision, but it ain’t me. That is not a political problem I have ever had. 😆
Actually, it's called getting your fellow white people educated and looking past their own stupid noses. Did I say tell them not to vote at all? No. No voter suppression at all. You keep putting words in my mouth that I'm not saying.
The fact that you didnt think about the ramifications of what you were saying doesn’t mean those ramifications aren’t real, and it actually makes you look worse, not better. You’re doing a bad job of parroting bad propaganda that keeps the owners, D and R alike, in power.
Imagine thinking that talking to people so they realize that voting against their own interests is “voter suppression.”
(that’s leaving aside the assumption that we’re such indiscriminate, haphazard trashbags that we have Trump supporters in our personal lives. There are literally no people I could have talked out of voting for him; I don’t know any, because I care who I associate with. Do better.)
They didn’t say talk to people, they said “stop them from voting.” If you have to misrepresent something to make your point, your point is probably wrong.
If you have to misrepresent something to make your point, your point is probably wrong.
White people like you deserved to be booed relentlessly everywhere they go for their majority votes for trump and republicans.
Oh, fuck completely off with this.
I cannot believe the comments here. This is why the democrats lose. This is why we're in this mess. We need leaders, we need people willing to fight for our democracy. And because .5% more voted for hell, previous presidents get to walk away? Peoples lives are being torn apart.
And the response from people asking why aren't democratic leadership (Hillary, Obama etc) stepping up is, "they shouldn't have to fight for us"? Then who should be? They're the leaders of the Democrat party. How are we supposed to fix the country if we don't have anyone to stand behind.
As my mother said; “if you can’t say anything nice…..”
No. It is not their job to fix this. How about all of my fellow WHITE people, especially Republicans, open their mouths and start to speak? How about more white politicians get their asses out on the streets where the protests are? How about that? White people made this mess, we have to clean it up.
First thing I noticed is that you did not name the WHITE former Presidents in this post. You are telling on yourself.
Oh hell yeah lets drag Biden out of his coffin again to hear some more of his incomprehensible madness
It’d be a lot better if people currently in office stepped up. That said, all of our former presidents, vice presidents, contenders, former legislators, actors, musicians, celebrities, athletes, etc. should be in the mix. Singling out the Obamas ain’t it tho.
child sit your ass down. They are not your slaves They are not your puppets They don't work for you You wanna boo go boo that clown you let get in office You want noise go make some to claw your country back
Nobody forces someone to decide to make themselves into powerful public figures I think it’s a real problem when we tell the powerful that they owe society nothing
And do you own them for life? Just how long do they "owe" you for? America has made its' choice The Obamas have been vilified up and down this country They are not masochists
Masochism is betting on the fact your investments are going to be safe when Musk crashes the economy so that his chosen billionaires can eat your assets
Stfu
The more they talk the more they reveal themselves.
Everytime
My what>? lol I live day to day so I'm good sides I didn't vote for the dictator in diapers white people did.
That’s true And so now we need *everyone* who opposes Musk/Theil/Trump to help each other out
Ahh well good luck with that, cause when we said to come together to avoid this disaster... we got a slap in the face. Best to let white people come together and show they're serious... the rest of us will cheer from behind or join as we see fit.
I do kinda understand that I keep hoping The Civil Right’s Movement fight for an Economic Bill of Rights gets revived so our demands are increased by a reasonable level Rather than demanding crumbs
Go yell at the fuckers who voted for this. Or didn't vote or voted third party. Go yell at Republicans. The Obamas owe us nothing.
Not much of a poet I see.
“Child sit your ass down” was actually very poetic.
ohh i'm so hurt Not
You’re so young kiddo.
I don't know is 58 young? maybe if you're 70. You're a silly child who does not deserve any serious reply you come into this convo with your "you're not much of a poet" childishness and you expect a serious answer? What poem of mine do you know?
You’re literally a stupid child.
The funny thing here is they wouldn't listen to him but now they want him to save them from themselves. That man did a stellar job for this country against massive headwinds and vitriol with utter grace. He campaigned like hell for Kamla. He gets to tell them to fvck off now.
No MAGA and GOP supporters do.
I would add George W & Clinton to that list. Why are the former presidents remaining silent while democracy is dismantled? If we’re playing by Rump rules, any one of them could run again in ‘28
That’s a garbage take. They did their job in during the election. What do you actually expect them to do? Dress in superhero outfits and bust into the White House. It’s not on them to get us out of this, it’s on us.
Blame the blacks huh 🤔 Let’s see how long this holds up
What do they owe us? They questioned his citizenship and they say she is a man. They gave 8 years of their lives and more for this country. Honorably. I don’t blame them if we never hear from them again.
Amen
Where’s your outrage for the people that voted for this or the politicians that are actively protecting this shitshow? Throw shade where it’s due, not at anyone else. Jeesh
So weird how you singled those 2 out in particular 🤔
WTF? Typical that you spend time and energy shitting on Dems when we're in a war.
Bots
Probably. This place is full of them now.
His profile claims a title with Media Matters, though he could be lying (nothing prevents folks from putting anything they'd like in)
Andrew I think you’re great but this is a horseshit take and if people did it things would unquestionably get worse even before we consider the optics of a bunch of overwhelmingly white crowds booing two black people for not doing enough to stop the racists