I keep seeing people on here saying that folks should call the local police on ICE and I don't understand this AT ALL.
I keep seeing people on here saying that folks should call the local police on ICE and I don't understand this AT ALL.
Not a fuckin' once.
FYI, if you are filming police or ICE, get a 360 camera for your car and park your car somewhere where you can access film of how your car was parked. Film your car when you park it, and film any parking signs when you park. Take it from someone who had their car towed repeatedly.
Film, document, post and shame. Also, get to know how your local police and sheriff are cooperating with ICE. I apologize for these rich white people. They mean well but they are really new at this.
One example of many of local police officers' views on this: "SFPD deputy chief says police can’t ‘sit by’ and watch ICE agents get hurt"
Seriously there are 10,000 examples happening across the country daily and I do not get how people refuse to understand reality. lol.
Wait what?!
Someone should really do something about this Batman guy! We should call Bruce Wayne and see if he has any ideas.
Around here, the police are usually escorting or protecting ICE, so like, they know. Honestly, the only time I’ve seen any friction is because the local PD is upset about jurisdiction, not their actions.
correct. Jurisdiction NOT ICE actions.
I frequently feel like I wayyy overestimated how many people learned anything about the police from the George Floyd uprisings in 2020.
Democrats want to speed up the collaboration between ICE and local police.
Call the police on the police state
I take this opportunity to explain to them what "cop" means. They don't take it well.
That makes less than no sense.
what are they going to do, form a perimeter and arrest onlookers??
this is what they are ALREADY DOING, lol.
high five their fellow loser cops? bring them a coffee?
I've seen at least 10 people on here saying this.
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lol, precisely.
And a bunch of “history won’t be kind to them,” idiots too. They’re literally writing their own history, moron. Stop asking who’s coming to stop them and grab a rifle. It’s on you to stop them.
I think it's interesting that people living through actual history rewriting in this moment are sure that "history won't be kind"
💯
Right. History is written by the victors. We only know how evil the Nazis were because they lost. Columbus was given a holiday.
Obviously they have never had a close encounter with them.
Some of those that burn crosses / are the same that burn crosses
I lead trainings to get folks into our local Rapid Response Team. Inevitability an older Caucasian will raise their hands & ask that question: should we call the police on ICE? (Maybe it’s on fb?) So many white liberals still believe cops protect them. Hard to deprogram but equally important work.
it's a real problem.
sometimes I think they think they're just going to fight it out instead or that they secretly hate each other???
they don't.
The theory is that we should be able to call the people we have charged with the duty to defend our community in response to people with hidden identities who are harassing, abducting, and sometimes killing members of our community That's the theory. Now if we held people accountable for crimes...
depends on the state. In many states, probably would be a good call to make. Even if they "assist" the ICE thugs, the ICE thugs would be less likely to beat up their victims in front of real police.
Substantiate please
Local PD in a lot of red states is contracting by ICE to help them. This is not good advice
I'm in a very blue county in a solid blue state and some local(ish) cop gave ICE all his logins for running plates and stuff. It's happening here too.
Sounds like that would be a problem with privacy law
There are so many problems with it. I think the thing that really gets me is we only know because some dingdong icebro used "immigration" as their search term rather than, like, speeding or something. we know it's happening a lot elsewhere thanks to @404media.co's report on it.
I've really enjoyed their coverage.
Highly illegal in most jurisdictions
And the password sharer still has his job. 🙄
Jesus Harold Christ
The police and sheriff departments are going to support ICE before they support the community
Giving away his logins is likely a violation of policies or laws. What an idiot.
Alameda County in CA, home of Oakland, swears it does not cooperate with ICE. And yet... boltsmag.org/alameda-coun...
Yeah, I'm in Cook County, in Illinois, both the state and the county have rules on the books about not cooperating, and yet. I'm guessing this guy is just the the tip of the iceberg too. share.google/kc1Cn4Bdgft3...
Police do whatever they want to. They violate laws and commit crimes everyday. There is no system in place to stop them, and the prosecutors are just another cop.
Sadly very true. Big reason why people distrusted Kamala from what I saw.
I'm in a blue state and my county sheriff is flying Israel's flag at the sheriff's department, and would happily collaborate more with ICE if he could. Pretty sure most of our town and state cops would too. No way would I call 911 on ICE.
It makes NO SENSE.
I believe people still think “the police will protect us”. Especially white people naive people who believe “our Rights” cannot be beaten on the sidewalk for standing there like a Jehovahs Witness. They are looking for Saviors. There are none.
That's just calling backup for them.
Yeah, I wish that we could trust the police, but *come on.*
Anecdotally I find a correlation with comments like “these guys aren’t really ICE, these are new J6 recruits” 🤯
I'm also seeing this too. It's truly baffling.
I get how some people are mourning structures they believed in, but at a certain point after seeing 500 trees one can’t keep saying where is the desert I live in, the forest is over there
Is it going around tiktok bc i've seen local protestors repeat this with the logic of "tying up their resources" and it just doesn't scan
Unless the plan was to have a few fake calls from other parts of the precinct, I do NOT understand this. And those resources could be put to much better use.
It's coming from somewhere and it's ridiculous.
I need to work on a way to communicate this firmly but gently and also locally. No problem 😭
I'll admit I'd never thought before why not to call the police. Who should I call?
Your community.
I think the police might be able to confirm I'm being abducted by ICE and not by pretend ICE. I've seen few cases of the police deescalating ICE brutality. Although, lately the police is being so violent, as if they were angry for not being paid gigantic bonuses for beating people up.
40 years before ICE even existed:
it's nonsense
The average libs ignorance of the American Police state never ceases to amaze me
This!
"Hello? 911? A bunch of masked men are trying to drag my brown-skinned neighbor into an unmarked van. They might be ICE or they might be kidnappers. Could you send over some uniformed officers to help escalate the situation, maybe throw some tear gas and punch my 75yo mom for recording? Thank you!"
LA in June: "community activists allege local police enabled the detention. "Guess who were protecting the kidnappers who were kidnapping our people? LAPD officers. They completely protected the ICE operation that kidnapped our people,"" abcnews.go.com/US/los-angel...
They should definitely not call the firefighters because that would be just wrong. Do not do it.
the only thing of benefit that might happen is that they get into a fight about jurisdiction and who is subordinate to who and that wastes some time and energy lol
They dumb is all.
They're literally escorting them here in DC.
When you call the police and the masked armed serial kidnapper in front of you pats his tac vest pockets and pulls out his work phone
Wait. Did I miss something or aren’t they working together?
They certainly attend the same meetings.
Think they call ‘em rallies?
Sometimes cross burnings
go home to the same wives
Like I don’t even know if it’s a Venn Diagram but a circle..
When they see each other they say things like “hey you forgot your hood in my car”
They must have a code word….lemontree?? 🤣
They got pro tips for trolling online
acab? all kops are kkk #AKAKKK
Some police might actually assist against ice? They can't all suck? Right?!🥴
Yes they all can
hahahahahahahahaha
My guess is it's white people saying that. People who have had little to no interaction with police and still believe they're here to "serve and protect"
In Florida the sheriff departments are big mad bc they agreed to work with ICE but then ICE tried to recruit them to leave the sheriff's office and become ICE officers themselves.
Too many people still refuse to see the police for what they are. They truly believe they will come and save them. They won’t. Don’t fall for it.
Many people aren’t aware of the fact that local police have always played a big role in ICE activity.
I agree that local police aren’t likely to be helpful dealing with ICE, but in any other context if I saw masked people who refused to clearly identify themselves as law enforcement abducting someone off the street, my first instinct *would* be to call 911. 1/
Getting local police involved is one way to say THIS ISN’T NORMAL. Also, people out there are impersonating ICE agents for their own private kidnappings, so it isn’t unreasonable for bystanders to be cautious. 2/
Women are sometimes advised to dial 911 or drive to a police station or populated area rather than immediately stop if an unmarked car tries to pull them over on a lonely road. This seems like a similar situation to me. 3/
HOWEVER, I recognize that—as a white woman—my experience and training on dealing with the police is different than what people of color face every day. I just wish there was a good way to prevent these unlawful abductions from being normalized. 4/4
P.S. If calling the police on ICE wouldn’t make the situation *more* dangerous (which it often would), I’d be supportive of doing it just on the grounds that local gvt agencies should be forced to spend time & money answering calls so that they can’t simply ignore what’s happening on their watch.
Just when you think people cannot be any dumber…
even in “sanctuary cities” what do you think the local pds are raring to do 😭
Yasss omg Liberals “Just call the cops” Me: ohh so ICE can have Backup Excellent idea 🙄🙄🙄🙄 I swear some of this resistance advice is coming from cops
Actually, I saw some that was literally from a cop the other day. Shockingly, he did not have very smart things to say.
Folks do not realize that they are essentially one and the same when a cooperation agreement is in place, and when it’s not the police will not act against other law enforcement.
Calling MPD when I see ICE doing something fucked up, and then watching as the guy next to the ICE agent picks up his phone and answers my call
lol
I’m pretending dispatchers don’t exist for the sake of the joke lol
First of all, fuck the pigs. That said, while the cops aren't in standoffs arresting the ice terrorists, there have been some small stories of police being directed to interfere or not support ice kidnappings and it is a point of organizing to demand from local officials more of that.
(obviously, demanding that mayors or sheriff's direct cops to police ice, is different than just calling the cops on ice)
The explanation is simple. They're white.
Absolutely Not!!
why, to offer them back up
The most charitable interpretation is that doing this creates chaos and confusion, which inevitably slows down BOTH cop and gestapo.
Morons think they can find some legal way of fighting this. No, dumbass. You’re gonna have to do something illegal to combat this. They have the law on their side. The law is what they’re enforcing. The police ain’t gonna do shit but cite you for wasting police resources.
The local police work for ice they work for Trump do not trust any cop
I get it, but not exercising normal law enforcement alternatives seems like a form of surrender in advance. We wouldn’t give this up in any other environment. What’s more dangerous?
call your local anarchists
I'm not sure, but I'm wondering if it's because ICE isn't identifying themselves so they could technically be anyone?
Exactly. That ship sailed months ago.
There are a surprising number of folks who still don’t understand the police are not here to serve and protect everyday people, they are here to control us, for rich people’s benefit
And for those of us who want to be controlled, there are much better people to call, amirite?
😉
911 calls are a public record, so if federal "agents" turn up on my property I'm calling the police to at the very least preserve a record of my abduction.
I can see the merit of that strategy although I’m not certain how local cops would score that
there's always the chance they'll add some chaos, but one must be judicious… if there's already enough chaos from the public, the police will try to curtail it
Liberalism really is predicated on not understanding literally anything at all about anything, ever
What part of ALL COPS ARE BAD do they not understand? The cops have been shown to only help ICE. They all work for the same damn people.
This is literally the advice I've seen schools give their staff.
I mean it’s a very white person thing to do, right? 🤦🏻♀️
I have a hard time explaining to folks what it's like to grow up in a majority-white community and what sort of demented view of cops that gives you. Prolly the best comparison I can give is that white folks think of calling the police the way you might regard calling customer service.
There's video from Worcester MA that proves why that's a terrible idea.
Do folks even need video to know this? How old are they?
They never had to interact with cops before, or every time they asked police for help, the police didn't target them in return.
This is what we should do, get as many people out on the street as you can. bsky.app/profile/chan...
People think that armed resistance is necessary to fight fascism, but they still believe violence is only ever justified by law enforcement and the state. The state will not save you from the state.
*addendum: pls no fedposting comments in response. I'm just commenting on the mindset of these calls.
It's a "let them fight" impulse, but the thing is based on the idea that cops don't know why they're being called. They'd just show up to assist the atrocities, if they even bother. Cops always make things worse
I... I don't understand what they even think will happen? Like, what's the goal? I need them to explain it to me like I'm 5.
They think the nice men from the tele will come and tell the mean masked men to go away.
How many cops helping ICE is it going to take before they get the message that cops are corrupt 💀
Absolutely perplexing
As a white man - I would. I cannot make that same conclusions for others. The main reason they would be after me now is for protecting others. Why? Paper trail. Creating chaos trying to pit the two against each. Waste the time of both organizations. Others similar. For actual safety? Hell no.
These are people who have never had a cop tell them to step out their vehicle.
With one hand on their holster ....
Just World Fallacy addicts.
Still under the “to serve and protect” fantasy, it seems.
I mean...if it leads them to fight I suppose? It feels weird given the obvious political biases of both organizations, as well as a sense of a shared mission. There are more subtle and effective ways to divide them with the thorns of suspicion and envy.
Calling fascist backup for the fascists will not lead them to fight
That's what I thought. It's ultimately confusing. There are far, FAR better ways to push for in-fighting (stoke jealousy, make them suspicious of one another, etc). Right now they are both animated on a sense of a shared mission, delusions of protection, and disdain for the underclasses (esp PoC)
Why would you call in more bad guys to help the bad guys
hello SS? I'm being accosted by the gestapo. yes I'll hold
LOL
Overheard
Ive been seeing it too. It’s basically saying call their backup. It’s sad a lot of the time because people have no idea how these forces work.
I sometimes think that they prefer not to know. Don't want to destroy the illusions.
I can only speak on my parents' point of view but their brains have been poisoned by police procedurals and cop movies. I can convince them cops are bad but 40hrs of NCIS latter its not all cops.
its a hundred percent this. they think (or at least need to believe) they arent & will never be the other. and sometimes they need to be able to call the cops
I think it's a response to news stories like this. abcnews.go.com/US/los-angel...
Obviously not the same situation in red confederate states.
Around where I live I have heard teachers say they’d be better off without immigrant students, so I can assume that cops…
In Illinois it is illegal for our PD to assist ICE in any way. If I see anonymous people dressed like military goons harassing brown people, I would absolutely call my local PD to ID the goons and make sure they're legit. If they refused to help, I'd call my reps, senators and governor.
They likely change from their police uniforms to their ICE uniforms after their shift so don’t expect any help from your local PD
best of luck.
Yeah no, I'm not calling CPD.
Only reason to ever call police to a location is you need or report taken or you want somebody shot and don’t care who
It's all in how you report it. If you say there are armed, unididentified people rampaging through your suburb, they have liability if they dont show up. they bring recording, and a totally additional layer of accountability.
I just begged a woman I know to not call the police on a local person with known mental health issues. I told her a person I knew was beaten to death by the police. He died because he ran. He ran because he was terrified of police. Don’t call them for ICE. Don’t call them for mental health issues.
The fact that the average person doesn’t understand that they are fundamentally the same is a big mountain we need to figure out how to climb before we get to the other side of any of this.
a) who do they think local police are b) what do they think local police do c) who do they think ice are the mind boggles
Some of them think ice agents are newly minted randos whose only prior relevant experience is being in a local hate group and local police are professional armed Boy Scouts who are here to help all residents citizenship notwithstanding
We aren't living in the same country.
The names are different, so it's not the same. ... *I agree* but on god I believe thats what the deal is. Must be nice to trust and have faith in your local police, lol. Me? I see ducks walking like ducks and I know it's not a damn fox, no matter how many times cable news wants to lie to me.
Setting up a fash v fash fight.
My (blue) state has laws prohibiting state/local PDs from immigration assistance. Obviously not foolproof (often foolhardy), but I sympathize with anyone who would call 911 (because they don't have a solid network/legal access or whatever) instead of tussling with the gestapo in the street
I'm wondering if folks are being serious????
I’ve seen too many people commenting this kind of thing across the internet lately in genuine earnest. The ignorance, the naïveté, is astounding.
Oh they are. Legitimately had someone ask why we didn't call the cops on the Tacoma center.
In the best construction of it people are saying to kind of play off hostilities of different agencies—Feds vs local. But they are really underplaying how unsafe cops generally are for POC.
They think the cops are there to help protect and serve. Propaganda works.
Adults don't have a shared experience or education beyond high school. Most people haven't grown beyond children on most topics. White parents teach their kids that policemen are the good guys who fight the bad guys.
I think it’s a courtesy in case the police might miss an opportunity to ride their dicks.
WTF
If the police were actually doing there job they would be arresting ICE officers for their crimes but the police don't do their jobs and this is what happens to police who try to stand up to ICE www.cnn.com/2025/08/19/u...
Awful advice that will only lessen your power.
why in the world would you call police on ICE unless you wanted the cops to help la migra?
I assume the idea is "These ICE agents are masked kidnappers who are not even proving that they're law enforcement when asked. They should be treated as ordinary kidnappers and we should demand the local cops do so!" This is, of course, wishful thinking. Cops gonna cop.
Utterly insane. Cops have been providing extrajudicial muscle for landlords, corporations and political actors outside of formal channels since the labour wars. It’s not side hustling, but a structural overlap between public law enforcement and private repression
Call the City Council at home? Or at their day jobs?
Hello 911, I'm not getting beaten enough. Could you help?
Ppl don't understand how the police state works. Law enforcement is one entity operating on a local to national level. And the politics of cops is the same as ICE and Maga. The different local police/sheriff's department are working with each other to boost arrests & push far right politics.
It's exactly the people you think saying this. I've been hearing it IRL too
And people saying Rep Collier should call 911... like what world are y'all living in
Wtaf
Certain americans have embodied looking “upwards” for help because they’ve been so uncomfortable connecting with those next to or “below” them.
There's a lot of weird old dummies on here who still think "it's illegal" is a helpful argument against all this shit.