Nuremberg Redux is right around the corner. They will pay, unlike Jan 6th.
Nuremberg Redux is right around the corner. They will pay, unlike Jan 6th.
They detained one guy? Are those govt vehicles? Was he vandalizing a govt car?
Crazy
They finally got too bored standing there all day doing nothing
They had to justify their presence there. So go grab a few, doesn't matter who, but might as well go for the smaller, slower ones; they'll be the easiest to subdue and won't put up a fight when we beat them.
If the nat g presence were legal... which it's not, their job is to provide security for federal property and personnel, not law enforcement, I.e., detaining protesters off federal property... technically I don't think they can detain anyone, anywhere except under martial law
Another Kent State is coming.
Let them do that with 10 thousand protesters!!
These guys are not being paid, fed poorly, sleeping on a concrete floor at night, separated from family, frustrated, somebody is gonna get hurt!!
Almost certainly not NG, some of them appear to be wearing sneakers.
This is shortly before. They fell back and dropped the riot shields before coming back out again.
Christ almighty, who's side are you on? Check out the helmets; The ones rushing protestors are in the video are *not* NG. Making these sort of ill-informed claims are exactly the things the other side *will* use against you to discredit you. Be factual. Be truthful. Be better.
These so-called "nonlethal" rounds can put out eyes and cause significant damage to the human body. If they hurt someone, they will go to jail. Frump does not have their backs!!!
Sickening
I did Nazi this coming.
*less lethal very important to know these can still be lethal, especially depending on the range and where the munition hits. if you’re hit close range in the face, you very well might die. this means the ones actively aiming at people’s heads, are in fact, attempting murder.
Noted, thank you.
So ICE is starting riots so they have something to do?
ICE are starting riots so Trump can declare martial law.
Remember Kent State!
It's like they think they're in a video simulation or game, shooting people with rubber bullets, like that poor woman who was shot in the head!
Any respect I had for the National Guard is gone now.
I grew up in Kent, Ohio. My parents knew some of the students who were murdered in cold blood by the National Guard on May 4, 1970. So I'm not surprised at all.
I was a little kid when that happened, but I remember my Grandfather being absolutely disgusted by those killings at Kent.
I wasn't born until a year later, but I heard the stories. My uncle was attending class that day. It was awful. They claimed protesters burned the ROTC building, but locals all say the local cops burned it down for an excuse to bring in the Guard.
That wouldn't surprise me a bit.
Terrible. 😑
Horrible
Meanwhile Trump is antagonizing Iran.. like we need more escalation…
More than Antagonizing, Trump getting played by Netanyahu just like Putin did, committing war crimes.
Iran is launching missiles as we speak. If we don’t have any mishaps/terror attacks this weekend.. then will have to endure war. Recession, impeachment and a coup. This is bad… horrible leadership.This is what happens when Republicans lose their spine. What a mess Trump is extorting everyone.
It’s exactly what Israel wanted isn’t it? Netanyahu is pulling Trumps strings or the other way around. Just like Putin did. Israel and Trump are war mongers. Israel commits war crimes.
I guess the courts gave Trump back his power?
Higher court stayed the order to turn the NG back over to CA until a hearing next week.
Oh thank you. What could go wrong?
Well, we’re living in the Upside Down right now. So my guess is anything could go wrong. 🤷♀️
Unfortunately, this is very true. I’m protesting tomorrow even though I have bronchitis, my kids? Only one of three is going, and it’s my white, hetero son that lives in Seattle and his SO. I’m so proud of him.
Closest protest near me is 40 miles by sea, and my budget can’t do a ferry or seaplane this month. I’ll be watching live stream, tho. Be safe out there.
Thank you, Nebro. You’ll be with us in spirit.
Motherfuckers! Aaaargh
134 million dollars spent on what? 12 or 15 national guards to get one protester from a peaceful and democratic protest!
Almost certainly not NG, some of them appear to be wearing sneakers.
Is that not a crime to add to trumps list?
Won't be long till we see another Kent state
I’m guessing today
Me too. They need chaos
I don't believe these are National Guard. Too much of the equipment is black instead of being subdued or camouflaged and most, if not all are wearing sidearms while carrying a secondary weapon, which is unusual.
This is a picture shortly before when they had their riot shields
Armed agents of hate.
This is an illegal use of the National Guard. Those soldiers and their superiors may face criminal charges down the road.
Almost certainly not NG, some of them appear to be wearing sneakers.
Good call. I slowed it down - didn’t see the sneakers on camo uniformed personnel but I also didn’t see any unit patches etc. Probably ICE and or HSI based on the mask wearing and bullish approach.
This is shortly before. The NG were on their own until curfew ended and the protesters started to arrive. Then the officers in dark blue moved to the front before NG came out again as shown in the footage, without their riot shields.
Christ almighty, who's side are you on? Check out the helmets; The ones rushing protestors are in the video are *not* NG. Making these sort of ill-informed claims are exactly the things the other side *will* use against you to discredit you. Be factual. Be truthful. Be better.
US Customs Police
I don't think these are NG. Note that they are all masked, just like the DHS/ICE goons have been all along. The NG hasn't been masked.
You can see a masked NG leaning on his riot shield in this image from just before. Not as many of them wear masks, but some were.
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“We were just following orders”. Hmm where have we heard that before?
Sure as hell looks like fascism.
We must form disciplined neighborhood watch groups. It’s clear the military cannot be trusted. They’ve violated their oath. Dem pols are unwilling to stand up at protests. It’s up to US. No Kings in USA! #fighttback
terrorism
98% of the chaos I seen was not caused by the protesters
I don’t think those guys are National Guard or Marine members. Look at the sneakers on the cosplayer with his hands on the handcuffed person. That’s not military attire.
There is a couple of people with sneakers on.
These troops must be bored af. "Ok boys, let's have some fun you deserve it".
Almost certainly not NG, some of them appear to be wearing sneakers.
The SS gotta eat, too.
So who is in the black suburban with the security dude in the white hat standing at the door, noticed that the onslaught of Nazis did not mess with him.
So the dam finally broke…✊🏻🐺🤬
Almost certainly not NG, some of them appear to be wearing sneakers.
This is shortly before. They fell back and dropped the riot shields before coming back out again.
Christ almighty, who's side are you on? Check out the helmets; The ones rushing protestors are in the video are *not* NG. Making these sort of ill-informed claims are exactly the things the other side *will* use against you to discredit you. Be factual. Be truthful. Be better.
Be better. Yes. But the video was poor. At least one helmet Says Police. as far as i could tell, no military arm patches. So most likely ICE
Exactly. The ambiguity is the point. When you’re on the ground, protesting, they-ICE, DHS, NG-all look the same.✊🏻🐺🤬
This is so wrong. Be safe out there tomorrow, People.
This is illegal This is unconstitutional This is unconscionable Rise Up Stronger Together No Kings Every Day #ProtestsEveryday #TownhallsEveryday #HandsOff
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This makes our National Guard just look foolish. @governorwalz.mn.gov
It makes them look like they committed a crime.
Absolutely and they have.
This ain't the guard folks.
Who do you think it is?
They look like they're running DHS gear to me, but I'm just an enthusiast not one of those military larpers. But they dont look like guard. Plus I got buddies over there, I get opsec is a thing but they ain't chatting about this. Guard life is boring, would def be scuttlebutt.
Interesting. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they are letting DHS play soldier.
Supposedly pumpkin spice palpatine might have bad actors running around dressed as military but I personally can't confirm. I got friends in 2/7 (the marines going to LA) and the 79th (the natty g) they haven't seen anything but how could they?
They've just been standing around infront of a couple of fed buildings.
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nah, man, they don't need to. lapd and lasd are an army unto themselves.
Those weren't LAPD
I agree, sorta. Let's say you wanted to purposely raise tensions between protesters and the military. Obviously, you'd try to get the military to do your dirty work. But let's say they refused, let's say they said no, we don't get the full picture, remember the US gov has a big propaganda machine.1)
2) So you dress up some bad actors. People willing to do 🍊🤡's bidding. Your average American sees camouflage and thinks, military. The gov knows this, they've been watching remember? They know your average Joe, Jane and NB Kelly see camo and think army.
3) In my opinion, and I dont have evidence, I'm just a weirdo with an affinity for art, physics, and statistics (so it's all out there, I ain't an expert) its a set up made to raise tensions so someone does something stupid and gives orange felon an excuse, a justifiable excuse, so he can look good.
4, final) Protect the troops and all that by crushing this "uprising/insurrection" with force. Now this is just as I see it. I'll admit I've never been a fan of the US despite being born here, so maybe I'm biased af. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
This is shortly before. NG were on their own until curfew ended and the protesters started showing up. ICE & DHS officers then took the front line, just before the footage shown.
That "arrest team" is NOT national guard. No helmet covers, no patches, unbloused trousers, non-standard boots, less lethal arms. No. It's fed law enforcement trying to make it look like NG. This is bad.
Nice catch. I did not notice those things till you pointed them out.
As a retired 'Title 10' Nat. Guard Master Sargent, I am appalled by the actions of these poorly trained, poorly commanded weekend warriors.
Appalling that this is happening in OUR United States! Do not obey unlawful commands from this rogue federal government! Resist.
Remove these men from existence, immediately.
Someone is going to be killed yet. 😔
So now they have committed crimes. Jesus where the hell is their leadership?
These are almost certainly not NG, some of them appear to be wearing sneakers.
I only see boots on their feet
We need to lock arms everywhere tomorrow. Now. All day. Everyday.
Why are the NG not standing down after the SCOTUS ruling?
What SCOTUS ruling are you referring to exactly? AFAIK one judge decided NG should be returned to the governor, Appellate court paused that (remain at president) until 17th at least, when they will have a hearing. This didn't got to the SCOTUS yet.
The appeal court stayed the SF Judge Beyer's order and the next hearing with him is at 10am PT on June 20. It is likely to get appealed all the way up to the Supreme Court though.
Oh so it wasn’t SCOTUS yet.
Whoever gave that illegal order should get a dishonorable discharge, at the least. Whoever followed that illegal order should be busted down to private.
I think national guard has a patch on their uniforms, and these guys dont seem to, so probably ICE playing dress up
Almost certainly not NG, some of them appear to be wearing sneakers.
Also pretty sure national guard only carries live rounds
It doesn't seem very "tactical". Like someone said "get'm" and they just swarmed like a game of tag.
A PLATOON of MPs for one arrest? Losers.
#TrumpFailure
This national guard soldiers need to be charged and sentenced with UCMJ by JAG, NOW!!
Almost certainly not NG, some of them appear to be wearing sneakers.
Christ almighty, who's side are you on? Check out the helmets; The ones rushing protestors are in the video are *not* NG. Making these sort of ill-informed claims are exactly the things the other side *will* use against you to discredit you. Be factual. Be truthful. Be better.
Can we stop calling rubber bullets "nonlethal", though? Do not use the fascist weasel words. Rubber bullets are a thin layer of rubber around a solid core, and they're actually meant to be ricocheted off the ground to lose most of their momentum before they hit someone - which nobody does, of
course. They are not "nonlethal", they're not "less than lethal", the correct wording is "less lethal" - and there are enough documented cases of them still being plenty lethal.
I think it's important for protesters to know too. That way everyone can make sure they wear face/head protection.
Noted, thank you. I will stick with less-lethal going forward. I picked the phrase up from press reports but have seen both used.
Thank you for adjusting your language. Press reports do indeed often use "nonlethal" and other misleading descriptors, but that's unsurprising in a political climate where their ability to even be present is impacted by how they massage the reporting.
Some news sources are calling them 'less lethal', which isn't really helpful, imo. Call 'em what they are: rubber bullets. Bullets can pierce. These aren't marshmallows. Trigger-happy 'law enforcement' ppl, high on adrenalin, jittery & impatient - shots will be fired. They can't help themselves.
Trump putting on his show
Well, breaking more of your civil rights The are bored They need to do something so Hey! Where is their commander?
The violence almost always starts on the government side. That’s what Trump wants.
In a burst of testosterone, these sperm full men released themselves in public by inflicting pain and suffering. Pitiful.
They thought those few protesters were going to get past an overwhelming number of armed men
*less than lethal rounds
Noted, thank you.
They were bored?
@agrobbonta.oag.ca.gov @governor.ca.gov Not sure what we see here
Causing the chaos they are ostensibly there to stop.
When was this?
Friday morning 7-8am PT
Thank you
Thugs. Fight them.
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It doesn’t matter does it? They are there to create violent protests. I hope someone was filming
Those who wanted to cause harm to fellow Americans should be punished. How embarrassing.
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Maybe change their name to Russian guards for now, since Putin West controls them. They should refuse his unlawful orders!
I'm not loading rubber bullets
American Gestapo
The same protesters who violently laid flowers at their feet? Those protesters? God, don't we all feel so much safer? Eff you, NG.
Almost certainly not NG, some of them appear to be wearing sneakers.
I really would like to know who the guy is in the blue shirt and white hat standing by one of the dark vehicles. He does not appear to physically participate. At one point one of the soldiers appears to be having a conversation with him.
Yes I noticed that and he'd been there for quite a while beforehand. There was also a car with no plates on that went into the Federal building just before the video.
OMG. There is no bottom to the horrors they intend to inflict on this country.
You clearly see that these officers are looking for trouble without being provoked! Like there looking to start something!! Hello?
That is not how a National Guard behave, this is how treasonous thugs behave !
Almost certainly not NG, some of them appear to be wearing sneakers.
The perfect timing to use NG to abuse American citizens so they don’t see how WWIII is started but Israel bombing Iran and inviting United States to foot the bill. Who pays for the war: the beaten citizens, the citizens who didn’t get beaten yet, and the immigrants.
Keep that film! Peaceful protest does not warrant being shot. These guys think they're hunters, bagging their game!
Absolutely will, someone may need it at some point 💙
Looks like a detention by military personnel to me. I’d say the National Guard is all in…
What the hell happened that 12+ NGs had to storm across a street and key in on this one guy?
Where are the US flag patches that are REQUIRED on National Guard uniforms? Not certain this video is authentic
Bit harsh Mikusa, I would struggle to make up News 18 live footage from outside a Federal building, logo is on there. Here is an image from shortly before of the NG and you're right there are no flag patches that I can see.
It’s the VA and my concern is that their uniforms are not current Guard issued design. Look it up. Or find a person currently active in the California National Guard
It didn't take long for the weekend warriors to over react at a peaceful protest. Stay tuned. More to follow.
WTF? And are you sure it was the national guard and not ICE dressed as them? I couldn’t see the patches and it’s hard to tell them apart now.
This is shortly before, as they had to drop their riot shields before coming back out again. Those in dark blue outside the Detention Centre seem to have a number of different badges but seems to distinguish them from NG.
Yeah those guys are definitely identified. How about those guys who charged across the street to arrest that one guy?
Fox needed some fresh footage
I’m sure miller is barking orders to escalate.
Trump has given the order: “There will be a riot, come hell or high water!”
That is NOT NG. Look at their pants, none have their bottoms tucked into boots. NG wouldn’t have a reason to cover their face AND these guys are trained to kill just like regular Army. They rushed out in such a scattered fashion. Someone wants them to look like NG. It’s not.
This is an image from just before. They don't cover their faces as much but a few do. I noticed that quite a few women had.
These guys have their pants tucked into their boots. The other video doesn’t show riot gear and their pants are not tucked in.
WHY did the NG move…? The police were there - they should have been the ones to move IF there was cause…
Almost certainly not NG, some of them appear to be wearing sneakers.
Do we have the names of the national guardsmen deployed? They’re all going to need to go on trial for this when the country is set right. Nuremberg all over again.
💯💯 because they offered them the chance to be a conscientious objectors.
How so? I know people on the Reserved were called in to serve... not the type to participate (also don't know if they are being used to replace others functions). Also not sure if better to have mixed bag on site - to display some hesitancy - as an "insider" for those without courage to speak up?
Following orders is not an excuse for crimes against humanity. We NEED to hold every single one accountable.
1-877-447-4487 is the number for the GI hotline where soldiers can call in for confidential help on how to approach a situation that they feel is against their oath
That's a good repost - thanks!
Here’s hoping!
Funny how the "good guys" are scared to show their faces
They are thugs. They are not even getting paid to be thugs at the moment. They are attacking American citizens for free.
I guess it’s no longer “thank you for your service?”
I believe "fuck you, thug" is the new one.
The National Guard, sent by Donnie 2 Dolls, can't engage in civilian law enforcement on American soil. He hasn't enacted the Insurrection Act (yet). What is going on?
Disgraceful, disgusting, and heartbreaking, all at once.
Just the usual brutality by our National Guard and police. Great way to protect and serve your country and citizens. We are watching.
These Americans in the National Guard and Marines are going to soon have to choose sides for American Freedom or Trump's 4th Reich. If they don't they will be the enemy within.
What did LAPD do?
They are scared and untrained.
I'm just waiting for a Kent 2.0. most of these guys are itching to do it too.
Having breakfast at the Federal Building in Westwood and it’s totally peaceful just like it was before the embarrassed guards wishing they could disappear rump.
Didn't I just read an article saying what the military could and could not do in LA?
Storm Troopers. Fkn Nazis.
It's hard to tell because they all *look* like fucking soldiers (because our police agencies are so insanely militarized) But I believe this video actually shows DHS/HSI, not national guardsmen.
Military personnel don’t wear sneakers as part of their uniform.
This is an image from shortly before. DHS and ICE patches are clearly shown on those wearing dark blue uniforms but once NG put down their riot shields it was less clear in the footage.
Shameful abuse of authority
This isn’t the national guard. Looks like maybe LA sheriffs dept. they wear multicam uniforms sometimes. LA PD is in black. Cali national guard has face shields and actual riot shields and were likely well behind the police lines or already withdrawn depending on when this video was actually taken
Informative. Probably important for people to be able to identify and differentiate them to make better informed decisions. The "shoe wear" comment below was another good catch - sneakers or cheap plastic style boot bottoms are a solid giveaway for who is playing dressup or not.
Several of them also have "Police" on the side of their helmets, and are wearing the gaiters over their face that LA Sheriffs and DHS have been using. I also see no patches on the uniforms indicating its NG.
I also noticed different shades of shoe - brown vs desert. Anything to be gleaned from that? I noticed only a few desert shoes...and that they seemed to be the ones *actually* detaining persons.
Not much to be gained, likely just less regulated local or federal DHS police - low res- you’re better off looking at the uniforms and comparing what actual Guard wears - look at helmets - high cut uncovered ears. Guard doesn’t get issued that style of helmet.
This is an image from shortly before of the NG. DHS and ICE are wearing dark blue.
Guys that rushed the crowd on the left, NG on the right. Uniforms and equipment are completely different. Helmets do not match, and the NG doesn't have the pepper ball guns like the guy on the left.
WE ALL KNOW. LET THEM KNOW THAT WE KNOW. somebody daily talk to the troops families. They should know now. Not 40 years from now.
So now illegally federalized troops are gabbing people at random to arrest them for assembly on the streets . Now the CA NG can join the ranks of being hated and despised as much as ICE. Saying that they were ‘just following orders’ won’t save them.
Almost certainly not NG, some of them appear to be wearing sneakers.
On a second look I see what you’re saying. All the same, it’s a sea of multi cam clad thugs suppressing peoples’ right to assemble. Yelling at authorities is not grounds for violence against people protesting.
Who gave that order?
They are not supposed to be doing that. Their orders were not to act as ICE OR POLICE
Does anybody have proof that there was no violence prior to that? Where can I find that clip?
This happened not long after curfew ended and the protesters started to arrive. I watched from before curfew ended when no-one was there, right up to the incident and there was no apparent reason for what happened.
This is the 3 minutes immediately before. They give a 5 minute dispersal warning to the protesters & observers but then the charge, originally shown, is one minute later.
Thank you. Its hard to know what to trust on social media. People are so manipulative.
I understand that, I try to be careful with where I source information.
I see an organised group doing something illegal here 🤔
Only 1 problem with that......the majority of SCOTUS is owned by the 🍊🤡 34 TIME CONVICTED FELON!
SCOTUS is no longer naive that they will remain untouched by the king they installed. Chief Justice John Roberts has already rebuked Trump for attempting to side step and discredit the equal power of the Judicial branch. They know now what's at stake. Watch Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett.
... They hitched their wagon to close to the horses🫏 and now there's 💩 all over them!!
Unfortunately they gave him IMMUNITY!!! Biggest Blunder ever! It's kind of hard to put the Toothpaste back in the tube!
Newsom needs to activate all HIS NG before the tyrant does. States rights.
Of course not!