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Matt Zoller Seitz @mattzollerseitz.bsky.social

It's impossible to oversell the mind-blowing experience of seeing To Live and Die in LA when it came out in the mid 80s, smack dab in the middle of the reactionary sentimental counterrevolution in Hollywood. It's basically an anti-copaganda movie. The maverick cop makes everything worse.

jul 23, 2025, 6:56 pm • 260 30

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Pete Noble @petenoble73.bsky.social

I watched ten minutes or so of it the other evening. I owned it on VHS & DVD and have seen it dozens of times. It’s a remarkable picture.

jul 23, 2025, 7:02 pm • 1 0 • view
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leemarvinoswald.bsky.social @leemarvinoswald.bsky.social

Great movie and another classic car chase this time featuring LA freeways. However, my contrary take (if I recall correctly) - is that I didn't like the Wang Chung soundtrack...so sue me.

jul 23, 2025, 7:23 pm • 2 0 • view
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Mark Tierney @marktierney.com

We got through all these comments and no reference to a young Daphne from Frasier.........I saw it in theater on release and it was incredible.

jul 23, 2025, 7:50 pm • 0 0 • view
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Sean C @spcauley.bsky.social

With her name spelled “Jane Leaves” in the credits!

jul 23, 2025, 10:38 pm • 1 0 • view
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wario speedwagon @atomicgiant.bsky.social

He’s so wonderfully, extraordinarily bad at his job and worse at his extracurriculars.

jul 23, 2025, 10:21 pm • 0 0 • view
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Gil Roth & his Virtual Memories Show @vmspod.bsky.social

Only saw it for the first time recently and, while I'm around your age, I cannot imagine how insane that must've been when it came out in the theater.

jul 23, 2025, 7:05 pm • 1 0 • view
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Bob Clouse @rwclouseiii.bsky.social

Would make a good double feature with Running Scared, a very pro cop movie.

jul 24, 2025, 1:17 am • 0 0 • view
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Don Hood @dbhidi.bsky.social

PSA: Still streaming (with light ads) on Tubi.

jul 23, 2025, 7:48 pm • 0 0 • view
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Don Hood @dbhidi.bsky.social

Man, I love that movie! I've seen it umpteen times and would happily watch it again in a heartbeat. Killer soundtrack to boot.

jul 23, 2025, 6:59 pm • 5 0 • view
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Shauna Joy @shaunajoy.bsky.social

man I wish I'd been around to see it back then in the theatre

jul 23, 2025, 10:20 pm • 0 0 • view
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Joe Guglielmelli @joegug.bsky.social

Did you ever read the book? The movie version is mild in comparison.

jul 23, 2025, 10:23 pm • 0 0 • view
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Joe Guglielmelli @joegug.bsky.social

It is also the movie where I discovered John Turturro

jul 23, 2025, 10:25 pm • 0 0 • view
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Todd Robert Petersen @toddpetersen.bsky.social

I was an undergrad film major, and this is the movie all my professors were talking about. When I went, I was floored.

jul 23, 2025, 7:53 pm • 0 0 • view
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John Wall @johnwall57.bsky.social

With Manhunter, William Peterson’s indelible performances. Pankow is good as well.

jul 23, 2025, 8:55 pm • 0 0 • view
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Adam Yim @adamy.im

Recently caught a screening of The French Connection and it struck me as funny how, in a few ways, Friedkin remade his own movie in a new location and era with To Live and Die in LA.

jul 23, 2025, 7:00 pm • 8 0 • view
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Matt Zoller Seitz @mattzollerseitz.bsky.social

Yes, and I think he's actually on firmer ground in the second one, in terms of "depiction does not equal endorsement"

jul 23, 2025, 7:01 pm • 16 0 • view
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Adam Yim @adamy.im

Oh absolutely. The end of To Live and Die in LA almost seems to say “I let Popeye off easy” with a period.

jul 23, 2025, 7:05 pm • 8 0 • view
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Frank @fcaiii.bsky.social

I thought it was pretty edgy that they realistically depicted the printing of counterfeit money. It's mesmerizing.

jul 24, 2025, 2:01 am • 1 0 • view
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Matt Zoller Seitz @mattzollerseitz.bsky.social

Willem Dafoe talks about how they spent the fake money here: www.vulture.com/article/will...

jul 24, 2025, 2:06 am • 1 1 • view
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Matt Baldwin @thisbrokenwheel.bsky.social

"We robbed another federal agency, accidentally killing an undercover agent in the process, in order to fund our unauthorized extralegal sting operation" is a story beat that's hard to imagine in a crime thriller *now*, and is downright radical in 1987.

jul 23, 2025, 7:04 pm • 21 0 • view
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Pete Milan @petemilan.com

At one point in the I'm guessing late 80s the Boston FOX station put out an TV ad saying "Wow, you all watched "To Live And Die In L.A." on this week's movie, we're bringing it back"

jul 25, 2025, 12:48 pm • 0 0 • view
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Anna Roth @annaroth.bsky.social

And it’s a Christmas movie! But only the main title acknowledges it

jul 23, 2025, 10:35 pm • 0 0 • view
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TubaPeter.com @tubapeter.bsky.social

Petersen's dead-eyed, post-credits stare. On a related note, I love that MYSTIC RIVER ends with the vigilante killing the wrong guy and not really caring. The point was that killing someone - anyone - would make him feel better.

jul 23, 2025, 7:05 pm • 6 0 • view
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Tero Kuittinen @teroterotero.bsky.social

It was profoundly shocking because the package was so glossy and expensive and had Wang Chung soundtrack with a Top 10 hit. Yet it was an amoral kick in the head. America was a wasteland of grift and abuse. There was no hope. It predicted 2025 with clinical precision.

jul 23, 2025, 10:25 pm • 6 0 • view
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Patrick J Doody @patrickjdoody.bsky.social

And greatest shotgun to the faces effects….

jul 23, 2025, 7:02 pm • 3 0 • view
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Matt Zoller Seitz @mattzollerseitz.bsky.social

Yeah, I think he wanted to make sure you knew they were dead and they weren't gonna pop up five minutes later I bet he hated that shit

jul 23, 2025, 7:05 pm • 5 0 • view
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Skip McCoy @skipmccoy.bsky.social

Youve seen his commentary on the alternate ending?

jul 23, 2025, 10:35 pm • 1 0 • view
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Skip McCoy @skipmccoy.bsky.social

youtu.be/x6B7UiTcRvM?...

jul 23, 2025, 10:38 pm • 3 0 • view
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Patrick J Doody @patrickjdoody.bsky.social

I’ve never seen that! That is wild. Thanks!

jul 23, 2025, 11:15 pm • 1 0 • view
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Skip McCoy @skipmccoy.bsky.social

It really is an insane ending

jul 24, 2025, 12:07 am • 1 0 • view
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Patrick J Doody @patrickjdoody.bsky.social

Maybe that’s where DePalma got the idea for the line in Mission Impossible….” I want him manning a radar tower in Alaska by the end of the day.”

jul 24, 2025, 12:57 am • 1 0 • view
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Skip McCoy @skipmccoy.bsky.social

And all for McQ and company to cash in as seemingly the longest gestating setup and payoff in action movie history lol

jul 24, 2025, 3:57 am • 1 0 • view
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Patrick J Doody @patrickjdoody.bsky.social

Hilarious.

jul 24, 2025, 4:23 am • 1 0 • view
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daveriordan.bsky.social @daveriordan.bsky.social

Saw it at the South Hampton movie theatre in 1985. I was 8. It was amazing.

jul 23, 2025, 7:04 pm • 1 0 • view
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robby @ibjdpcnt.bsky.social

Absolutely nutso car chase too

jul 23, 2025, 7:00 pm • 6 0 • view
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TubaPeter.com @tubapeter.bsky.social

"Cops doing crime against other different cops as part of their investigation" is always a great development.

jul 23, 2025, 7:03 pm • 6 0 • view
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Jonny Numb @jonnynumb.bsky.social

Petersen is so good at playing such an extremely unlikable "hero."

jul 23, 2025, 7:47 pm • 0 0 • view
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Matt Zoller Seitz @mattzollerseitz.bsky.social

I love his bowlegged gunfighter walk

jul 23, 2025, 8:50 pm • 1 0 • view
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E.E. Knight @eeknight.bsky.social

When Daphne from Fraiser shows up.

jul 23, 2025, 7:06 pm • 1 0 • view
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🔪 c h o p p a h 🔪 @iamchoppah.bsky.social

Good thing it ends with a nice and tidy happy endi—oh yeah

jul 23, 2025, 7:02 pm • 5 0 • view
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Mama T @mama-t.bsky.social

This and The French Connection makes me think Friedkin really didn't like cops. 😀

jul 23, 2025, 10:35 pm • 1 0 • view
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Lee David Dalton @leedaviddalton.bsky.social

If you’ve ever lived in Chicago…

jul 24, 2025, 12:32 am • 0 0 • view
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Mike Slodki @mikeslodki.bsky.social

First name drop of Michael Jordan in a pop culture work too, iirc

jul 24, 2025, 12:04 am • 0 0 • view
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Jake Cole @jakecole.bsky.social

That ending where his partner calmly but firmly tells the sex worker WP kept as effectively his personal slave that now she belongs to him is maybe the bleakest assessment of what cops are in cinema history.

jul 23, 2025, 10:25 pm • 11 0 • view