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Just Dee @raging-dee.bsky.social

Often promoted by the Christian right. There are just so many instances of them just shrugging off their own pastors sexually assaulting girls. They will blame the girls for wearing inappropriate clothing.

aug 24, 2025, 3:54 pm • 6 0

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Just Dee @raging-dee.bsky.social

They’ll turn around and say that back in the Middle Ages men regularly married girls who we now say are underaged. And my answer would be once upon a time people executed thieves and heretics on a cross, and in the Middle Ages we burned them at the stake. Maybe don’t choose your laws from that time.

aug 24, 2025, 4:00 pm • 5 0 • view
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Ken Burnside @kenburnside.bsky.social

Also, from *historical records,* in Western Europe from the 1100s to the 1600s, the average age of a bride was 19-21, and her groom about 2 years older. This age skewed about a year younger for brides in Central and Eastern Europe and about 3 years older (so roughly the same age) for grooms.

aug 24, 2025, 7:44 pm • 3 0 • view
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Ken Burnside @kenburnside.bsky.social

None of those motherfuckers can read Medieval Latin.

aug 24, 2025, 7:45 pm • 1 0 • view
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Just Dee @raging-dee.bsky.social

Yeah, I kind of thought that was true. But there were times when brides were younger and an average means there were definitely many younger than 19 during those centuries. We’ve certainly seen that in the US too.

aug 24, 2025, 7:54 pm • 0 0 • view
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Just Dee @raging-dee.bsky.social

My point is that just because something was once socially acceptable doesn’t mean it should always be socially acceptable.

aug 24, 2025, 7:54 pm • 2 0 • view
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Ken Burnside @kenburnside.bsky.social

Agreed that society changes, and of late, much of those changes are in the realm of "let's make things less awful for women and gay people." The idea that "Oh, yah, errabody married girls at 13, 14!" just makes me want to shove someone's head into pig shit untl the bubbles stop comng up.

aug 24, 2025, 9:42 pm • 3 0 • view
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Cat Kimbriel @catkimbriel.bsky.social

They forget that the records we have on that were usually some poor 12 year old duchess/princess, & an alliance depended on her producing an heir. A lot of those girls never conceived again, the babies tore them up. Margaret Beaufort had "procedures" written up for delivering heirs, later. 😡

aug 24, 2025, 10:30 pm • 2 0 • view
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Ken Burnside @kenburnside.bsky.social

Like I said, hold their heads under the surface of a pig-shit lagoon until the bubbles stop coming up...

aug 24, 2025, 11:09 pm • 2 0 • view
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Plöp Plöp @bubblewr-ap.bsky.social

But also a lot of the very young princesses who were married of, didn't actually consume the marriage until they were at the very least 14 more likely 16 or so. People very much knew that it was a very stupid idea to be pregnant in your early teens.

aug 25, 2025, 8:06 am • 1 0 • view
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Plöp Plöp @bubblewr-ap.bsky.social

And this is still only true with high nobility and maybe super wealthy merchants (like the medici or similar), "normal" people (peasants, artisans, merchants, even lower nobility like knights) had to be able to afford the marriage and also again they weren't stupid and wouldn't risk pregnant 13yo

aug 25, 2025, 8:06 am • 1 0 • view
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Cat Kimbriel @catkimbriel.bsky.social

Absolutely true. Usually they waited until the girl was at least 16 to actually consummate a marriage. Margaret Beaufort was betrothed as an infant, & then that was annulled and her guardian married her off at 12. She was a pregnant widow at 13, Henry her only child. Married 3x before 30.

aug 25, 2025, 1:31 pm • 1 0 • view