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Jonathan L. Box @lonniebirkenstock.bsky.social

I don’t think you know how negotiations work. Walk away if your demands aren’t met. That’s how we got where we are now. And show me one candidate that you 100% agree with on everything. You can’t.

aug 29, 2025, 6:39 pm • 0 0

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Crabingus Reedus @crabitha.slutmo.de

lol check out the false dichotomies on Jonathan

aug 29, 2025, 7:12 pm • 5 0 • view
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Simulflow 🍁 🐀 @simulflow.bsky.social

You can't walk away from someone who's already been elected by other shitty people. Also, trans rights are human rights; anyone who says otherwise is a bigot, and should not be elected to ANY office.

aug 29, 2025, 7:20 pm • 6 0 • view
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World Ahead @worldahead.bsky.social

Where we're at right now is "who might we nominate," and our negotiating point is "this is what we, the electorate, expect of our candidate". Newsom (& anyone else) has 3ish years to figure out if he wants to rise to meet expectations, or if he wants to "walk away" from the nom.

aug 29, 2025, 8:22 pm • 2 0 • view
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Matt (Communes with the night) @hwbrgdtse.bsky.social

No one is asking for 100% agreement, dickhead. That's a line you've been programmed say, and you do so without asking why.

aug 29, 2025, 7:20 pm • 7 0 • view
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Doordash Rendar @cambrianera.radical.town

What you're saying is that a shrewd negotiator is willing to pay any price and should agree to do so before any negotiations begin?

aug 29, 2025, 7:25 pm • 10 0 • view
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Jonathan L. Box @lonniebirkenstock.bsky.social

A shrewd negotiator has leverage. .35% of the population isn’t leverage. You need more supporters. I’ve asked how I can best support and get nothing but shit on. That’s not how you advance your cause.

aug 29, 2025, 8:00 pm • 0 0 • view
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Doordash Rendar @cambrianera.radical.town

Advocate for the right to privacy, due process, equal treatment under the laweand bodily autonomy just as you would with abortion or vaccines. If those things are negotiable then I don't think we're ever going to want what you're selling.

aug 29, 2025, 8:04 pm • 7 0 • view
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Doordash Rendar @cambrianera.radical.town

Trans people do not consist of some fundamentally different group that requires a different set of laws. If you do need more nuance for policy then it should be evidence based and seek to minimize harm, not based on social distaste for a minority group.

aug 29, 2025, 8:07 pm • 10 0 • view
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Count Otter Poppula 🧛🏼 Sr. III @peezkyweezky.bsky.social

Like, it’s such a low bar

aug 29, 2025, 8:09 pm • 7 0 • view
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Doordash Rendar @cambrianera.radical.town

Frankly it's unclear that any level of transphobia is required to win elections but we keep being told it is and to stay quiet and accept it. Just based on vibes I guess.

aug 29, 2025, 8:13 pm • 19 3 • view
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Doordash Rendar @cambrianera.radical.town

These people saw Harris following the law of her state five years prior as a bridge too far in support of trans people. Are they going to be winnable if you do some light fascism? I don't think so and none of these guys have managed to convince me.

aug 29, 2025, 8:15 pm • 6 0 • view
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Doordash Rendar @cambrianera.radical.town

Either we have enough power to influence the election or we don't. If we do then you can win us over by supporting basic human rights. If we don't then just do what you want, it doesn't matter either way except people feel like it's unfair they're being shit on.

aug 29, 2025, 8:17 pm • 4 0 • view
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cyanlol @cyanlol.bsky.social

Yeah I don’t think most voters are so incredibly transphobic that they wouldn’t vote for a candidate that wasn’t hell-bent on hating trans people. This cruelty is not even remotely necessary

aug 29, 2025, 8:15 pm • 5 1 • view
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Guillotine Hunger Force @themilfmag.net

theres literally no basis other than gop campaign blasted transphobia at the same time it won despite losing midterms blasting the same

aug 29, 2025, 8:18 pm • 8 1 • view
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Doordash Rendar @cambrianera.radical.town

I don't doubt that people FEEL afraid but I don't know why I should take their irrational fear based on right wing propaganda seriously. It's always a third party going, "Well I'm enlightened but will it play in Peoria".

aug 29, 2025, 8:20 pm • 6 0 • view
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Guillotine Hunger Force @themilfmag.net

aug 29, 2025, 8:21 pm • 4 0 • view
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Jonathan L. Box @lonniebirkenstock.bsky.social

I do advocate for those things. Look at my likes, reposts, and who I follow before you assume I don’t support those rights.

aug 29, 2025, 8:28 pm • 0 0 • view
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Doordash Rendar @cambrianera.radical.town

You are the one who asked for how to support people. Why are you here arguing that we should give those things up three years from now if it means helping someone else? That's just Christian baby stuff.

aug 29, 2025, 9:08 pm • 3 0 • view
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Jonathan L. Box @lonniebirkenstock.bsky.social

I asked how to support and the only answers, besides asshole comments, was for me to abandon all my other beliefs and withhold my vote.

aug 29, 2025, 9:34 pm • 0 0 • view
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Doordash Rendar @cambrianera.radical.town

No? I answered sincerely. This is like asking how you can support access to abortion while voting against it on a federal level. You can't. You as an individual do not have that power. You cannot support trans people without ensuring legal and medical transition.

aug 29, 2025, 10:23 pm • 2 0 • view
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Count Otter Poppula 🧛🏼 Sr. III @peezkyweezky.bsky.social

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aug 29, 2025, 8:32 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jimmy Two Hands 🌞☀️😎 @jimmytwohands.bsky.social

what percentage of the population counts for leverage? The 1% of the population that is Native American? The 1.5% of the population that is muslim? The 2% of the population that is jewish?

aug 29, 2025, 8:17 pm • 7 0 • view
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Jonathan L. Box @lonniebirkenstock.bsky.social

Simple math would tell you that more than 50% of something gives you leverage. Does someone who owns 5 shares of a stock tell the CEO and Board how to operate the company? No, the majority does.

aug 29, 2025, 8:39 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jimmy Two Hands 🌞☀️😎 @jimmytwohands.bsky.social

Ok i get it, only straight white people have leverage. I disagree with this statistical analysis

aug 29, 2025, 8:47 pm • 7 0 • view
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Jonathan L. Box @lonniebirkenstock.bsky.social

You disagree with math? No wonder you’re willing to let republicans lead.

aug 29, 2025, 9:23 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jimmy Two Hands 🌞☀️😎 @jimmytwohands.bsky.social

Sir, i agree with math when it is correct. Your math is wrong

aug 29, 2025, 9:33 pm • 4 0 • view
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Jonathan L. Box @lonniebirkenstock.bsky.social

Is greater than 50% of something a majority or no? Take your time figuring it out.

aug 29, 2025, 10:10 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jimmy Two Hands 🌞☀️😎 @jimmytwohands.bsky.social

Leverage ≠ majority

aug 29, 2025, 10:29 pm • 1 0 • view
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Count Otter Poppula 🧛🏼 Sr. III @peezkyweezky.bsky.social

Well guess what that logic loses elections

aug 29, 2025, 8:47 pm • 2 0 • view
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catz @whenwearebothcats.bsky.social

actually my demands and that of my loved ones weren't met last time & thats how we got here DESPITE them still voting; voting out of fear. but dems ran such a shitty campaign they still lost and its because of this slow creep to the right they do which hemorrhages their base in favor of donors and-

aug 29, 2025, 7:03 pm • 7 0 • view
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catz @whenwearebothcats.bsky.social

whatever their consultants tell them. now the consultants are telling them to backstab trans people to scapegoat us? fuck that. we see where this road leads, and its the same one thats allowed them to betray their stance on immigration.

aug 29, 2025, 7:05 pm • 4 0 • view
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Jimmy Two Hands 🌞☀️😎 @jimmytwohands.bsky.social

Perfection is not and never has been the goal. There is a baseline minimum of respect for human rights. If this is not met then that is a no, plain and simple.

aug 29, 2025, 7:36 pm • 5 0 • view
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Count Otter Poppula 🧛🏼 Sr. III @peezkyweezky.bsky.social

Stop using the word “demand” if you’re describing a “want.” It’s not complicated. But then you’d have to admit you don’t actually care

aug 29, 2025, 7:11 pm • 10 0 • view
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Jonathan L. Box @lonniebirkenstock.bsky.social

Saying, “I want it my way or I’m not voting,” is quite literally a demand, not a want.

aug 29, 2025, 7:41 pm • 0 0 • view
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sid @sidvicious.ca

jim varney would have hated you

aug 29, 2025, 7:50 pm • 2 0 • view
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Count Otter Poppula 🧛🏼 Sr. III @peezkyweezky.bsky.social

Right. And you keep saying you have demands too, but then admitting you’ll let 99.5% of them go, just to have a nice negotiation.

aug 29, 2025, 7:48 pm • 5 0 • view
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Jonathan L. Box @lonniebirkenstock.bsky.social

I didn’t say I’d let 99.5% of them go. I said if one wasn’t met, I wouldn’t walk away from all the other demands like a fucking toddler.

aug 29, 2025, 8:19 pm • 0 0 • view
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Count Otter Poppula 🧛🏼 Sr. III @peezkyweezky.bsky.social

That’s not what Demands are, and you know damn well it was a lot more than one brutal policy position by the Dems that got voters to stay home. You just need to believe their immature, because if you took their actual situation seriously you could never live like you do

aug 29, 2025, 8:21 pm • 4 0 • view