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Michael Pettis @michaelpettis.bsky.social

10/15 The most likely outcome, in my opinion, is it shifts investment into other manufacturing sectors, those not yet suffering involution. This, of course, won't resolve the problem of excess capacity, but it will make it much less concentrated in a few key sectors.

aug 23, 2025, 6:28 am • 18 2

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Michael Pettis @michaelpettis.bsky.social

11/15 Another possibility (on which they already seem to have started), is to increase spending on infrastructure. The problem is that China already has "excess capacity" in infrastructure, after the huge amounts that poured into infrastructure investment between 2010 and 2017.

aug 23, 2025, 6:28 am • 18 0 • view
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Robbie Andrew @robbieandrew.bsky.social

Michael, are there publicly accessible data that show these huge shifts in investment that you describe over the last 20 years?

aug 23, 2025, 7:31 am • 1 0 • view
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Michael Pettis @michaelpettis.bsky.social

Yes, widely available, for example here: www.ecb.europa.eu/press/econom...

aug 23, 2025, 8:32 am • 5 0 • view
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Robbie Andrew @robbieandrew.bsky.social

Many thanks.

aug 23, 2025, 8:41 am • 2 0 • view
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renlewis.bsky.social @renlewis.bsky.social

Sounds like military Keynesianism is the answer.

aug 23, 2025, 2:50 pm • 0 0 • view
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Michael Pettis @michaelpettis.bsky.social

12/15 The third possibility, and the best by far, is that it shifts resources to boost consumer spending. This is what most analysts cited in this article have proposed. But of course more consumption has also been the best "choice" for the past 10-15 years, and hasn't happened.

aug 23, 2025, 6:28 am • 19 1 • view
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Michael Pettis @michaelpettis.bsky.social

13/15 That's because it is extremely difficult to pull off. Low consumption in China is not the result of an oversight that can be fixed administratively. It is fundamental to an economic system in which household transfers subsidize rapid growth in investment and manufacturing.

aug 23, 2025, 6:28 am • 15 1 • view
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Michael Pettis @michaelpettis.bsky.social

14/15 What this means is that the only sustainable solution to China's problem of excess capacity is to engineer a transformation of the country's economic system and growth model. Other "solutions" just shift excess capacity from one sector to another.

aug 23, 2025, 6:28 am • 17 1 • view
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Michael Pettis @michaelpettis.bsky.social

15/15 We will eventually see this transformation, but I think Beijing can still postpone it for a few more years. Until then, I mostly expect excess capacity in the involuted sectors to shift mainly into other manufacturing sectors and partly into infrastructure.

aug 23, 2025, 6:28 am • 20 1 • view
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17ronin @17ronin.bsky.social

📌

aug 23, 2025, 6:44 am • 0 0 • view
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postcharlemagne.bsky.social @postcharlemagne.bsky.social

They can also start a war and shift into arms manufacturing. At some point that might be easier to justify than building excess cars, roads, etc.. I do hope they can avoid this and shift to consumption.

aug 23, 2025, 9:48 am • 2 0 • view
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ArchaicTorment 🇫🇮 @archaictorment.bsky.social

Assuming they want to avoid this or arent deliberately accelerating things.

aug 23, 2025, 3:29 pm • 0 0 • view
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Fourth Turning Capital 🔸 @turtle4th.bsky.social

This seems highly plausible to me, especially given the likelihood of a military arms race in AI/robotics.

aug 23, 2025, 10:45 am • 1 0 • view
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Fourth Turning Capital 🔸 @turtle4th.bsky.social

ai-2027.com

aug 23, 2025, 10:47 am • 1 0 • view