On a recent podcast Gavin Newsom tells Shawn Ryan how the Trans sports issue opened the door for him to change his mind on GAC for Trans Youth. As someone who adored him since 2004 and voted for him 5 times, I can't wait for him to leave office. There is no way I will be voting for him a 6th time.
I hate him so much 🤬
Who's better?
Pick a name at random out of anyone living in California
a cockroach
💯💯💯 Well said, Leigh.
They're literally having an election next year to find someone better. And lucky for you, that someone better is obvious: katieporter.com
You know she's better b/c the Dem establishment was all for Adam Schiff running pro-GOP ads during the primaries to ensure she'd be knocked out of the ranked choice voting for US Senator. www.washingtonpost.com/elections/20...
shut the fuck up kelly
Off the top of my head? Beshear Shapiro Walz Buttigieg AOC Whitmer Pritzker Klobuchar There’s a veritable cornucopia of possible 2028 candidates who are actually progressive.
We can fight about the ranking, but, yeah. As a former San Franciscan and lifelong Californian, I'd thought we might have to settle for Newsom, but not after all this stuff. He's out.
Klobuchar is not progressive. Neither is Shapiro. Buttigieg plays it safe but seems progressive cause he's gay.
Buttigieg is more progressive than you are willing to give him credit for. Cont…
That all sounds good. But this: www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...
Explain “but this”. You don’t think a presidential candidate should have the support of foreign policy experts?
Why would almost 200 experts come out for a small town mayor? We don't need another CIA supported president. Ignore the Gabbard part but see this thegrayzone.com/2019/12/17/n...
"His work at McKinsey included trips to Iraq and Afghanistan, which he rarely discusses." Helped found Truman National Security Project "... some progressives are uncomfortable with the Truman Project’s pro-military stance which they describe as "Republicanism lite". abcnews.go.com/Politics/mck...
Anything else you want to share that doesn’t really support your conspiracy theory?
The article you linked discusses those assignments in Iraq and Afghanistan. I would recommend those who are interested in Buttigieg’s work at McKinsey to read that article to see if information contained there would affect their vote. Cont…
Linking to an article in the Grayzone, authored by Max Blumenthal is *special*. Using documentation from a contributor to Sputnik & RT for questioning Buttigieg’s foreign policy support is dubious. Have a good evening.
But what part of that piece isn't true? He wrote in the NYT he went to Somali as a tourist...come on It's all pretty sus.
I’m literally LingOL. Sus? Publishing that trip in….wait for it…. An obscure publication??? NOPE The New York Times. Such a clandestine trip. 😳 Do y’all hear yourselves when you spew this stuff?
A literal rock
Motherfucker either thinking he's going to ride a wave of transphobia to the White House or he's trying to get back with Kimberly Guilfoyle.
I go with the second option. He's done nothing to enhance his likelihood for the first, I'm thinking
people.com/gavin-newsom...
🤯🤯🤯 whelp. 🤷🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
I hate it when I'm right.
I am very rarely speechless. I truly can't find the words!
Who is going to vote for the guy who just tweets and hides when soldiers march through his cities?
i'm sure all the credulous liberals who hoot and holler every time he gets a halfway decent soundbite in would be happy to.
Third option is that he's taking heaps of cash from transphobes with the thinking that throwing us under the bus won't hurt him electorally but they money will be money regardless
I’m not sure why no one wants to consider a fourth option: he’s just a bigot who hates trans people like all the other bigots. Him having a D next to his name doesn’t mean we have to give him the benefit of the doubt and look for complex reasons for his bigotry.
Because it's unrealistic to think that he has any actual values other than what he predicts enriches himself monetarily or politically.
It's also unrealistic to think that he has any human emotions detectable enough to be called bigotry.
Gross.
Confused as to why he thinks this will make him more popular when every national poll shows people largely do not care about this or are supportive of trans rights. And especially baffling as a strategy to win democrats and centrists.
They know they’re losing the left and are trying to pivot hard right.
Which makes little sense at all. The only time the dems have lost the popular vote was after they went right. They lost to a man they beat twice before in popularity and the change between those elections was "they went right."
I think summed it up pretty well. Democrat’s top priority is not winning elections, it’s making their donors rich. If it takes losing an election to do that they’re fine with it. bsky.app/profile/tran...
I haven’t looked into this too much but man that right wing propaganda really worked radicalized me… This guy really really sucks and just because he leads a blue state it allows him to get away with so much.
What a POS
In other words, he's a weak minded fool that has fallen for the GOP propaganda. Okay, got it.
He always has been I’ve been researching and ever since his first day as a Supervisor he’s flip flopped and changed his mind and gone more and more conservative
As an elected official, he doesn't need to know the science. He doesn't need to understand the nuance. There are already people who understand that. They are called doctors and they are the only people who should be making decisions with their patients. The government has no role.
As an elected official done with state office and moving to national, da fuq he care about the fake science supporting chemically castrating kids? He is moving on to the national audience, pitching himself as the defender of the sane middle.
The sane middle does not care about this issue. The sane middle cares about the economy, access to healthcare, our safety as a nation, etc. This is a fringe issue trumped up by the right as a false flag. Government shouldn't be making personal healthcare decisions - for anyone.
Teen girls are too susceptible to social pressure for this not to have impacted most of America.
but when you have doctors like Dr Oz who push bullshit and lies instead of science we cannot use your simple observation as a fact.
The government shouldn't be making any decisions about a person's private medical care. All people should have bodily autonomy - trans people, women, the disabled, etc. Also, Dr. Oz is a cardiologist, so this is nowhere near his scope of practice.
it is actually not super hard to distinguish between the overwhelming consensus of the largest medical bodies in the country and the bullshit of genocidal quacks
...unless a Kennedy who had brain worms removed is in charge of national health care.
It’s funny bc Newsom says he’s a friend of Jr and he’s one of his environmental heroes
He didn't have brain worms removed. The brain worm died in there and I was never removed
i think that was OP’s point? kennedy should have no power on this issue, nor should anyone in government
Everything you have said makes sense and is correct. Kennedy shouldn't have a say at all, everyone appointed should be qualified. I wish that were our reality, but things are broken at the moment. We have to make change, the first step is better opposition leadership on all fronts.
He fucking smirks the whole time.
if I hadn't already soured on him, he'd still be dead to me after this he made his choice, to be on the wrong side of history, and he gets to stay there forever now
It makes his support for immigrant rights currently seem all the more cynical, when will he decide that push need to be abandoned the same as the fight for gender affirming care I will not under any circumstance support someone who's okay with genocide, against Palestinians or the trans community
neverending layers of Fuck This Guy
Centrist Dems are such trash humans
He has started his presidential campaign run
So strange how Newsom met with yet another Trumpist. Oh well, I'm sure that doesn't mean anything.
Non-scientists saying they haven’t “dove that deep” into the science is such a major red flag. LEAVE SCIENCE to the people who are qualified to DO SCIENCE. You have no business diving into it and you have no business deciding you have reasons to question the science when you cannot dive into it.
Don't worry, the shitlibs will be back to kissing his ass the second he says something rude about the Trump admin and then goes back home without actually doing anything material to resist them.
In hindsight I gave the shitlibs far too much credit. Apparently we have to vote for him now, despite not being the nominee.
Well he terms out as governor... May the next one actually do stuff...
Hi, Gavin, I voted for you. I now vote for you to go jump off a cliff.
@governor.ca.gov Why are you trying to both sides the isssue of trans rights? Either you believe in the bodily autonomy for all people or you don't. And pretending that one report that is disavowed by scientific health community carries the same weight as reports that support GAC is disgusting.
Gavin Newsom is now saying he's also against gender affirming healthcare for trans teens. Not for any particular good reasons though, just because it's "confusing". He's throwing 14% (5,000 maybe 7,000) of California's trans kids under the bus for political points. That's as evil as a Republican.
He is throwing 100% of Californian's under the bus for fear Trump will bark at him.
Yes. He's finding an angle for bigots.
Our premier did the same - bitch enacted the most draconian anti-trans laws in the country, with zero consultation with anyone except her far-right base, and then told us on a presser that she did this because the gender affirming care makes her “uncomfortable.” I’m sick of the bigots.
The UK Gov't, like the Tories, has turned their backs on trans youth, then used our Supreme Court's decision that in Equality law, sex is 'biological' (their simplistic version) and has gone full steam ahead in excluding them from public life. Propaganda focuses on sport & youth to reel them all in.
We cannot stand for this, and we cannot leave it up to 2slgbtqia+ folks alone to protest this crap. Governments are ignoring us for now but they can’t keep that up. There are to many “wokes” (wonderful inclusive folks) out there who will not go backwards.
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If you told me this guy was a conservative politician, I would believe you.
Thank you for posting this, I had people telling me I was lying on Threads lol
Fucking weak of Newsom
Jeez, Gavin, sure glad you didn't settle on whether you were a guy until you were fucking 26 years old. Go join Bill Maher in herpaderp land already.
That "26 years" study was about the prefrontal cortex. Problem is, right wingers didn't read or understand it. That part of the brain makes decisions but of the immediate, physical, "do I climb out on this branch", "do I jump off this rock" sort. Not the thought out, deliberated sort of decisions.
I had also heard tell that part of the reason it was 25 years and younger was because that was the study age limit, not because things suddenly and finally mature at 26, implying things *never* stop changing... ...but I haven't gone research-hunting to pin down whether that's true.
interestingengineering.com/science/adul... www.sciencefocus.com/comment/brai...
Brains never stop developing! It's part of the human body and as a physical form your body never stops changing until it literally can't any more! People only stop changing when they're dead!
"...and even then..." 😊
When it comes to Bill Maher I listen to Mark Twain - “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
When Maher left NPR his first interview on Fox was where he said, "I have no beliefs, I'm like an actor. This is all just a gig to me". Gavin Newsom it would appear, is no different.
That's the definition of a politician
Herpaderp land!!!!! 😂 I’ve never heard that before!!!!! 👏😂🫂
it's so pathetic how idiots like him don't even think for a few seconds about this obvious point; as if it should be the government's position that only trans people can't think about their identity bc so unsafe and undeveloped until 26 years old
never newsom
All trans and LGBTQ people are better off in every way when Dems are in power. We need to win elections. Period. Winning may mean not hitching the future of democracy, ALL human rights, the rule of law, and world peace to a legit question of fairness in athletics that affects very few people.
Find a better candidate
"Your losses are acceptable in the name of our victory."
But trans people are losing ground fast with Republicans in power, far more than just the ability to compete in women’s sports. Demonizing people who question the fairness of sis women having to compete against a testosterone advantaged trans woman is bad politics.
Maybe if we actually told the truth on a wide scale constantly like republicans do with their lies, we can change people's minds. There's no advantage according to studies. When MLK was doing marches, a vast majority said it was hurting black people's rights. Don't let bigots control the narrative.
You dont win rights for minorities by waiting for it to be popular, you drag the bigots into modern day kicking and screaming and tell them to suck it up and they'll learn to adapt like every time this fight's been done for equal rights.
Really good points. We also don’t want bigots to control Congress and the White House, and they do. LGBTQ rights are being eroded fast. We need to do whatever it takes for Dems to win and gain them back.
What we're telling you is that some Democrats are, effectively, just softer bigots. Anyone willing to sacrifice us 'very few people' just isn't worth our time.
hey man, no human is an acceptable loss. this rhetoric that we should meekly accept when even those who "make things better for us" are telling us they don't fucking care, does not move the bar higher, it moves it lower. You're letting conservatives dictate the conversation when it shouldn't be one.
This guy is sitting on his ass while California's economy is destroyed by Trump and its citizens live in fear and constant shelter in place orders like it's fucking Ukraine. The fuck is his pitch for office? Vote for me to not protect you at all when shit hits the fan?
What is GAC?
Gender affirming care
So you'd rather us have a 3x Trump administrations? As if MAGA would somehow be better for Trans Youth? Rethink this hill, that you seem ready to die on.
Blue maga spotted.
Better find a less shitty candidate.
The left is telling everyone now, y'all have 3 years to primary someone better than Newsom, we will not be voting for that piece of shit. So pick someone better instead of supporting someone who will definitely lose
TRUE. I have problems with Pritzker, but he is significantly better on this issue, and is generally a much stronger candidate.
Can I ask you (politely) what those issues are? I think he’s presidential material but I don’t wanna blindly support JB if there’s some significant problems
Pritzker seems like a decent human being. His politics are similar to Tim Walz, Obama, and Biden. That said, he cut his teeth in private capital. I would prefer a candidate who fights against billionaire oligarchy over one who is a member of the billionaire oligarchy.
I appreciate the skepticism of billionaires existing. JB isn’t a self-made one which does differentiate him from some (which Trump also isn’t). So he challenges Trump on that fact all the time. He wants to tax himself more.
He also opposed the Chicago City council's ceasefire resolution. He's not nearly as bad as Josh Shapiro, but I'm skeptical that he would stand up to Israel if he were the president. archive.ph/202402012039...
By the way, thanks for engaging with me! I’ll be thinking twice thanks to you.
I think he would. He’s appalled by the ICE snatches that are reminiscent to Nazi germany which his ancestors fled and is trying to shield IL residents from the same. He’s so close to just saying it. I think with the political landscape changing so much that as a Jew he will have to denounce Israel
I would like to believe that, but in my experience, what do you see is what you get. And I haven't seen any indication that he would stand up to Netanyahu. Support for Israel is deeply ingrained in Jewish culture in the United States, especially among older Jews.
So I found our thread and it’s been ~two weeks… And fucking IDF (and US contractors!!) are killing Palestinians trying to get food. I mean, I know it’s been ongoing for months, but MSM is finally reporting it. Anddd 🦗 from JB. When you’re right, you’re right.
I can accept his flaws "for the people" means ALL PEOPLE. This is the kind of person who could be convinced to adjust his beliefs that are less desirable, versus Newsom who's only been the literal worst for his entire career
He’s a scumbag
So you were cool with his persecution of the homeless all this time, but this was a bridge too far?
Why isn’t anyone asking why they are focused on 10 (out of 500,000) trans college athletes, meanwhile thousands of straight men steal roster and scholarships as “male practice players” in NCAA women’s sports. I thought they want to protect women ????
Gavin Newsom quite literally wants to see trans children die. Anyone voting for Gavin Newsom is a piece of shit excuse for a human being.
He can see himself out. Hell no.
😡
Sports is literally not important. Sport is originally just a word for messing about or relaxation. But of course we made it into a huge corrupt business.
I don’t understand his political calculus. He had a group who was willing to stand behind him because of the good he had done. Then in a few interviews, he burned that support to the ground to gain zero supporters on the right.
I also think he and his consultants think that moderate liberals will find this a winning message. We can't overlook that mild transphobia on the left could make candidates like him more appealing. Now I think he will lose more than he'll gain but I get the strategy.
Yes I think that was what was sold him. But we have just seen through Trump that what wins elections, especially primaries, is to have a group of committed followers at your back to ensure support and enthusiasm, not to gain points on some nebulous center. This pivot to the center excites no one.
I genuinely think there is no meaningful center and the Democrats have spent 30 years chasing statistical noise.
Yeah, noise is a good way to describe it. There may be a lot of people that self-identify in the “center” but what they care about that a politician could court is a wide range of specific items that don’t align into a meaningful ideology.
yeah, basically. the median voter cares about vibes, not specific policy. this is why Trump won twice against two "we don't really stand for anything" campaigns, he probably would have beaten biden too if not for covid
We're so subhuman that we're not even considered as a group worthy of standing behind him.
Agree. His political calculus is hard to figure out on this. As the numbers of people involved are small, why doesn’t he just sit on the fence on it? Or even continue to back them in a qualified type of way? Instead he is telling everyone that he will instantly drop a position as it suits him??
He's a piece of shit who routinely harasses the disenfranchised. For a time, being pro-trans was popular among the Democratic establishment (look at how they reacted to bathroom bills during Trump's first term, for example), so he focused his abuse on the homeless, but now transphobia's in vogue.
This is unironically why I trust left-wingers from red states more. When it’s expedient to show token support for social justice, it’s impossible to know if they actually support it or just know what’s expedient. It’s the rainbow capitalism of politics; it reflects a calculation not conviction
Well said.
Every time I get a reminder that my power bill is going over budget, I get another reason why I will never vote for him again. As though his hard swing to the right wasn't enough.
Fuck Newsom. We don't need even one more centrist ever again.
He's a bitch-made two-faced asshole and i hope he eats shit
The try hard left is going to chase him into office 😂 Newsom knows just the people to piss off to make him appear as the defender of the sane middle in 2028
I actually think this dude is going to help Newsom.
seems you think a lot of weird, backwards things. we’ll see who gets surprised, I guess
Many an unsanctioned thought. We shall see, it’s interesting times
Nothing sane about bigotry
Having mixed feelings about GAC for minors is bigotry?
If you actually knew what GAC is we wouldn't be having any of this conversation. So yes. It's bigotry because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
What age do condone puberty blockers and/or hormone therapy?
Why the fuck do you even care?
Ahh so we both are familiar with what GAC is. I get why you would prefer not to answer
No i'm asking you why you even care
And the fact you went straight to hormone therapy proves you dont know what your talking about.
You don't seem to understand what affirming care is or why it's important.
Told ya
Trying to replicate 2024, I see.
Newsom is not Kamala.
The outcome will be the same if not worse. (DNC has proved they can easily rig presidential primaries)
Right now it’s shaping up for a JD Vance vs Newsom 2028 show down. Newsom has greased enough palms and is the darling of the girl bosses Your take?
Civil war
With that show down maybe. What a pathetic way to go out if we allow it. Team China and team Israel funding us genociding eachother to leave them fresh and fertile ground.
shut the fuck up you stupid cretin
"I know what the sane middle wants" -Man pretending to be the most racist president who did a literal genocide campaign
Stanning for old hickory, not pretending to be. And he didn’t genocide my ancestors, he did much worse. He banished them to the wastes. And supporting the populist bank killer makes the observation about Newsom’s savvy play untrue?
You realize how that makes you look worse, right? "No no I'm not doing a fun themed account, I just really love the guy who did a Native American holocaust". Let me guess, probably around 20 years old, libertarian?
Oh no He didn’t mass murder the natives. He didn’t relocate them and their slaves. But I am more focused on his achievement, killing the central bank
Once.
He put it down for 80 years here in the states. Admirable
I wish you'd participate in as many duels as Jackson did. With modern firearms, so we can all be rid of your ilk more efficiently.
You don’t appreciate the lesson learned by the intel agencies after the assassinations of the 60’s. Martyrdom is dangerous
Apologies, I've misread you entirely after a glance at your account. You're just untermensch nazi loser pretending to be a patriot. Sorry pal, America's full up of nazis, to join your leader, you'll need a shovel.
Being antisemetic and misogynist does not make one a Nazi. Been here newbie.
I really don't care how you want to define it, you're a rot, a cancer on society.
From you, I appreciate that
How'd that work out for Harris?
Harris? No one voted for her She was hand picked by the DNC with no vote from the people.
you're so right! this strategy did wonders for kamala and hillary
No one voted for Kamala, the dnc cocked that one up And Hilary shouldn’t have told how many of the voters she looks down on, both her and Romney showed how the people react to that. Newsom is basically just saying people are cool but he gets the uh oh feeling over trans going for kids.
So what he's saying is he loathes and hates part of the voter base
You think he feels that much emotion over it? He doesn’t really care that much. You were useful when he was running for state office, you are no longer useful
Says the racist who bled himself to death
At 78 with bullet from an old duel still lodged in my chest. A man can dream.
Bitch ass blocked me
Who?
LMAO the bitch unblocked you to try to save face.
I don’t block
Actually someone else blocked them that he replied to. Easy mistake for me to make.
gavin newsom raids homeless camps by hand, has actual white supremacists on his podcast, and is now throwing trans kids under the bus not only is your theory of how he'll win not based in any actual history, you're a goddamn piece of shit. have a good day.
Homeless camps carry disease and mess up our water, lol, and saying he gets nervous about big pharma profiting off chemical castration is a win for sanity. I get the push for objectives, but you all come off creepier and cultier than the evangelists.
Mess up your water? lol nope the homeless aren’t Nestlé try again.
Now if we want to talk corporate abuse and actions against the thief’s like nestle, 100% But the poop in the rivers sucks
Don’t drink in rivers, there’s industrial waste in there.
We swim in that toxic sludge sir. Add the shit smell is insult to injury
andrew jackson lover pretending to care about diseases and contaminated water lol. if someone made you up for a parody everyone would think it was too unrealistic
You really don’t get Andrew Jackson. I live here. You spend years working with homeless? You teach your kid to avoid the needles? You smell the fires from the camps on winter nights?
@thelouvreof.bsky.social
i had a group that fed the homeless and gave them supplies at the encampment down the street from my house--where we met and cooked--every friday for many years when i lived in los angeles so please stop pretending you have some sort of authority here lol
We all feed homeless people here tiqquna. What of it?
Jackson was a putrid genocidal white demon and here you are continuing his rotting legacy
teach your kids to be kind and help other people who have less than them.
I have, I also taught him how not to get hepatitis or aids from the needles You can do both
I would recommend you not argue with the dead racist hes just here to waste our time
recommendation noted
Bat lord is just upset Gavin’s “I am not sure how to feel about GAC for children” is going to play well for the moderates
If the concern is profiteering, then there are sensible answers to be had that don't involve curtailing access to care.
What is involved with access to care for you? Does it involve just affirmation or is it including puberty blockers and hormone therapy?
That depends on individual need. It's not a "one size fits all" approach where everything is predetermined.
I am hearing from you those are options, how young?
He's a turd for saying that and I don't trust him any farther than I can throw him. Grifting shitweasels.
He should have a trans person or two on...
Same, based on him platforming really sick assholes and then taking their points, dude is a write off
Trying to moderate or appeal/appease the “right” here will lead to more regressive policies. How many steps until agreement w kicking LGQBT out of the military, blocking marriage equality? Or he’s always been homophobic? Wondering 🤔
Why even discuss the issue if he himself admits he's not well educated on it? How about he weighs in on silicon wafer manufacturing next?
Folk like Newsom are the reason Democrats lost in 2024 and why folk like me are never supporting them again. They'd rather burn bridges they've already burned than stop refusing to be soft fascists who serve as controlled opposition for much harder fascists.
Millionaires don’t see anyone outside of their tax bracket as humans deserving of respect. I’m sick of having to beg from them.
And this is why it is bad that people are falling for him all over again because he's "standing up to Trump" and "talking tough". It's Cuomo with Covid all over again, we do not need to replace one charlatan with another, dems have plenty of good options!
Bots
He's talking tough while his State is full of ICE and the police collaborates with them Lots of bark and no bite
It didn't change his mind. It's a convenient transition for him to do what he wants to do
He thinks it’s his angle for a presidential bid. His thinking is deeply flawed
I hope he gets his ass handed to him harder than Michael Bloomberg.
There are no people under 18 getting sex change operations. Lets end this nonsense.
There is a tiny handful of trans teens getting top surgery in the USA. But out of 20,988 such surgeries, only 636 were trans teens. The other 20,352 were done on cis (not trans) teens. jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...
Those numbers as per the study cited were for 2019.
There's far more girls getting implants than there are trans folks getting changed. Understood difference. Thank you. Some gender affirming care is viewed as an everyday thing. Some isn't. That's some hypocrisy there. Good data. ✊️
I know I've oversimplified but yeah Just thinking out loud.
"All it took was some trans girls to run for me to realize - I could be an absolute pile of shit! And so I took that knowledge and applied it to every aspect of my life."
I can’t believe the mainstream left still thinks they have a chance with the base. We’re all-in with the Mamdanis of the party. No more anti-trans concessions to the right, no more cozying up to the rich... The future is democratic socialism, pro-humanity, and sponsored by the letters D, E and I.
Admit it’s controversial ffs. If you believe children should start taking hormones before they become adults go ahead and fight for it. Get facts and science in order. But how are you going to do that when Republicans are running everything into the ground?
It's not controversial to say people are people. Do gay people choose to be gay? What age does someone gain autonomy to be who they are? What purpose is there in means testing this?
Right.
You're not going to beat republicans by acting like a republican. If Newsom takes a swing at the presidency while being openly anti-trans, he will lose. You need to nominate someone who can actually win, not compromise before the fight even started.
Please help to find a trans nominee who can win.
You will never accomplish your political goals while being a transphobe. Please change and grow as a person, if only for your own sake.
Agreed
Dont need to be trans lol just not an asshole. And we do have those.
He put is finger into the wind of public polling. He says he has not really looked into this much, then goes on and on. F Newsom, he will never be president.
I mean, you say that, but look at the ridiculous fucktwat we have now.
gavin newsom has kinda sucked for awhile now, he’s a corporate democrat to his bones and an opportunist that panders to what he thinks people want to hear, he just so happens to be a little charismatic and doesn’t sound like a moron on tv..
He said he's gotten more open-minded over time. He said access to gender affirming care has saved children's lives. He said he is a fierce advocate for human rights. All he said at the end is that it's a tough issue. HOW would another R president in 2028 be better?
Republicans being utter garbage doesn't mean it's fine for Democrats to be slightly less garbage. It's not a tough issue - either trans people should be treated like everyone else or not. And no "separate but equal" caveats either. He's making it sound hard to just be decent. It's not.
It's really not a tough issue, stop treating him as though he's destined to be president because he's a billionaire pushing himself onto right-wing podcast spheres. It's spinelessness that leads to the party to be run by Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries. Just an utter lack of standards.
That's HIS opinion. Argue with him.
He seems far more interested in going on fascist podcasts to argue about why trans people shouldn't have the right to exist, as you seem very excited by the chance to elevate him to federal politics.
I do my best to ignore people when they start pounding out sentences that start with "You." Have a great day.
It's not a tough issue. Take one goddamn look at the people promoting this anti-science stance of yanking healthcare away from kids and look at what a bunch of sleaze bags and predators and human monsters they are and then realize "I don't need to align myself with those motherfuckers."
That's HIS opinion. Argue with him.
Or how about people like Chaya Raichik or Matt Walsh. People who encourage bomb threats against children's hospitals. They're scummy people. If we have to rub that association in every centrist Democrat's hair like a pile of dog shit that's what we got to do.
IMHO, there really isn't any reason to throw every awful person you can think of in with some garbage language into this.
I'm for discouraging people from promoting and encouraging total dog shit evil. By figuratively smearing dog shit in their hair so that they learn not to go around rolling in it. If we gotta taint their image with such dreadful lowlifes, then that's what needs to happen.
Yeah there is.
I stated my opinion. You stated yours. I think we're good. Have a great night.
have you tried having opinions that are rancid garbage just as, like, a thought exercise
Like the fact that I support the trans community 100%, but I'm a realist who knows that marginalized communities rarely get more than crumbs, and I'm sorry life is that way, but I will do anything I can to keep MAGA from continuing to hold power. That rancid garbage opinion?
I mean if this is the kind of person whose ideas you want to meet halfway then the rancid association is on you.
Because if you had one shred of goddamn common sense you would understand that people like that don't stop until they're burning human beings en masse.
You want to kiss up to the bitch who calls in bomb threats to children's hospitals, that's on you. That's what Gavin newsom wants to kiss up to that's on him. And if you don't like that association then I suggest you grow a goddamn conscience and use your judgment.
We're not going to let you have a little eugenics as a treat, how's that. If you want a rancid meal like that then you get to eat the whole stenchilada.
Transphobes are fucking garbage human beings. Scratch any one of them and you're going to find a predator and a creep and a stalker. And someone who genuinely truly thrives on hurting others. If Democrats can't find a way to oppose that they don't deserve to be in office.
I just again want to point out the kind of person whose ideas you are tolerating and possibly promoting are, you know, the guy who sat outside of a high school wondering if 16 was old enough. I have no problem smearing that stench all over people. It is not a legitimate opposing opinion.
You'll Neville Chamberlain your way into pretending you're a supporter of the trans community (and by the way you are not), while children have their health care bomb-threated out from under them by ignorant slime whose entire existence revolves around preying on marginalized people.
Cuz you're not supporting the trans community by letting that kind of thing go on unremarked and I'm going to continue to smear dog shit in your hair because that's what you're asking for. You want the stench on ya, it's on ya.
So again you look at people like Gavin newsom running around promoting the ideas and the rhetoric of The same people who organize bomb threats to children's hospitals, And you think that's realistic. ? And you're too much of a chicken shit to hold him to account.
You're the one saying it's a tough issue. And I'm the one telling you it's not. Again just take a look at the people who are the loudest and most vocal about this kind of thing. Ask yourself how comfortable you feel standing shoulder to shoulder with people like JK Rowling.
I'm not saying it's a tough issue. Newsom said it's a tough issue, and I offered a reason why I think he said that. That's all.
He's not the nominee why would we resign ourselves to this garbage as the best we could hope to vote for
He said that, while also actively saying 'and now I think that trans youths getting the support they need is bad'. I'm sorry, but he has only gotten more open-minded towards the fascist moral panic, and that is not worth celebrating or supporting.
Pritzker > Newsome. It's not like it's him or a republican.
wow did he become our nominee without me realizing it???? When was the primary? last night?
Why are you coronating someone for President already? You don’t believe in a primary or something?
The OP apparently thinks so. I just repeated what Newsom said.
you keep saying that OP is treating him as the nominee by blanket declining to vote for him this is what is known colloquially as "lying", a practice common to members of the voting bloc "dishonest fucks"
Not sure where I've been a "dishonest fuck." I've been quite clear that if he becomes our nominee, I will vote for him because I know that we usually only get crumbs, and I will take crumbs over MAGA.
Libs hate literally every aspect of democracy. They want a God Emperor so bad, just like the Trump Humpers. Only actual difference between those camps is which fascist they want as God Emperor
Lmao, he literally has repeatedly worked to pump up cash propagandists. If he won the presidency, it WOULD be just another R president. I’m sorry it’s too hard for Shitlibs to admit this
Fuck you autocorrect, I know I hit “f”, not “c”
that's not very fash money of you
I mean at this point I think Trump-Biden-Trump was actually worse for the country and the world than two consecutive Trump terms would have been due to the quite normalization of Trump's policy under Biden.
Thats how the UK ended up with a right wing shitbag bigot leading it after the tories destroyed themsleves and the right wing shitbag still preformed horribly when the win was handed to him on the most ornate of platters.
he was openly harassing one teenage girl in particular on an international stage like last week. before that he was vetoing popular bills for trans health care. he has not gotten better.
I look for the clip. Who do you recommend?
one of the many actual leftists choked out by the diet republican establishment
Abstractions like this just don't allow for a meaningful discussion.
Hey you should look up Sealioning.
How about Pritzker? He's very easily pro-trans and doesn't do this stupid handwringing that Newsom loves so much.
Like... This is what gets me. People coming out of the woodwork for a hypothetical Newsom presidential run just to scream at trans people and be like "do you want more people to hypothetically die?! You just have to accept the transphobia!" And like... No?? There are /so many/ better candidates.
the trans stuff sucks and don't get me started about how he personally shows up to dislocate and steal the property of Californians because as they do not have a place to live, he does not consider them his constituency, as his only true constituency is real estate developers
(and the billions of dollars he keeps demanding to "solve homelessness" is ~somehow~ ending up in the pockets of luxury condo developer friends of his)
It’s soooo funny how liberals delude themselves into being good people and then act like this when they’re told they’re supporting bigoted decisions
I mean it's not just bigotry or discrimination because some of these kids will take their lives this is actually eugenics. This is openly campaigning to eliminate a portion of the population that is found undesirable by some manufactured standard of correct.
Yeah but that's uncomfortable and deep down they think kids who kill themselves are wimps
you can't have a discussion, you want a preformed, consoomer product name ready to go to get behind like a kpop stan. one don't start with a name. one identifies what is important, then finds, cultivates, and runs candidates based on that, not the other way around
Politicians SAY a lot of things.
5 times? Jesus thats pathetic.
Did we watch the same interview?
He literally said, and I quote, “When you get to the issues around sports, trans issues, that’s now no longer about celebrating your rights, it’s about denying other people theirs. Marriage equality was about everyone’s rights” He is literally saying trans rights denies other people their rights
Yes, you just watched it with your blue goggles on.
We will need to send the liberals to Nuremberg as well.
Like Ro Khanna, Kyrsten Sinema, Tulsi Gabbard, Bill DeBlasio and John Fetterman?
>Kyrsten can eat shit. She didn't even thank me for this painting I sent her.
Yeah, did I stutter?
Yes. Anybody who collaborates with Republicans or utilizes their talking points is complicit in the destruction of the USA
God help me, but I'll be voting for a billionaire (JD Pritzker) who proactively protects trans people over democrats like Newsom who see trans lives as dispensable. Newsom, Suozzi, Moulton, and the rest can fuck right the hell off into the sea.
So because of some assumed advantage of trans athletes he's going to ignore the evidence GAC helps trans youth? That's some obvious bullshit. Fuck Gavin Newsom.
He’s got thugs kidnapping people off his streets and he’s on a podcast talking about trans athletes. Dipshit.
No, of COURSE he hasn’t “delved that deep into it” because he doesn’t fucking care. He’s just repeating hateful rhetoric about gender affirming care and the trans community because he’s a piece of shit.
“I haven’t done a ton of research” OK then shut your mouth and get out of politics. What a POS. I hope he chokes on the boot he’s licking.
Exactly. And newsflash - politicians can “do their research” to reduce confusion. They should be talking to a range of relevant experts, reading what professional associations say (the AMA for example), hearing the lived experiences of constituents impacted, and deferring to those who know more.
This is almost word-for-word how “I’m not a scientist but” Republicans talk about climate change. Also he is the boot.
things that can kill you that you can't do until you're 21: - join the military - drink - smoke cigarettes - buy a gun in several states things that can save your life that they won't let you do until you're 21: - transition FOAD to everyone on that podcast lmfao
…I’m willing to work with him in his views, but just know… this is how trump won last time. He has plenty of voter that will corn for him, and not care that he’s a damn rapist… but this is stoping you? Ok
One should note that a significant part of Democratic voices are singing to the same or similar tune. it is high time to make the Democrats in total recognise that disregarding or even fighting the pledge of trans people is counterproductive for them. Preferably before voting happens.
Which ones? Name them.
Only names I've actually seen are Newsom, Gallego (who, ironically, was a favorite of progressives last year) and Moulton (who received so much pushback he flip-flopped and voted against Anti-Trans bills)
Watch the news: Pundits who blame loosing against Trump on being too progressive re: trans topics (when Harris effectively didn't say anything at all). Democratic state reps and senators who vote for anti-trans laws - not silently, but being outspoken about "concerns", peddling the GOP rhetoric.
He’s such a dirt bag.
He can't run for governor again. He will run for Senate, or skip that and go straight for President.
Yep he has his sights set on 2028..
So vote for the Republican and see what happens next on trans rights, gay rights, women’s rights, civil rights.
i got a feeling you're probably gonna die before the election, you're probably old and that's why you're saying this ignorant shit
Or maybe we can tell republican-lite politicians to fuck off and let someone that isn't a diet fascist be the candidate. We can actually have someone popular and doesn't throw minorities under the bus for political power, someone that you dont need to tell people to hold their nose to vote for
Stop trying to anoint him the candidate for 2028. We can do so much better. Vote for someone else in the primary if you want to win.
We arent voting yet lol we have time to get a real candidate calm down
Here's a thought, vote for a different Dem in any primaries he's in who'll actually stand up for minority rights instead of making bullshit excuses and you won't have to worry about that. Like do you really think Newsom wouldn't roll over on those other issues if he's already abandoning some of us
Baby-brained, team sports way of thinking. Holding voters hostage this way are why Dems blow at winning elections. It’s fucking California. Pick literally any other Democrat and they’ll win.
first they came for the trans so i browbeat everyone else to vote for them anyways.
We gotta stop platforming "how I became a terf" stories
I'm also hugely disappointed in @governor.ca.gov's betrayal of trans folks.
What a nasty little man.
This article details the number of trans students in sports across the entire country. It’s hardly an issue for all these schools. www.thepinknews.com/2025/01/15/h...
Why did you ever love him to begin with? This is literally how he's always been.
People need do really inspect how race and class influence their beliefs about people’s goodness
Politics as team sports
Double-Bill Clinton thumbs. That's a tricky maneuver.
The thing that is really pathetic is him saying this but also then admitting he hasn't really made a lot of effort to be educated on the issue.
You say pathetic, that is how he keeps winning.
Exactly. A lot of so-called Dem guys are doing this. Big mouths, big platforms, big feelings and still too lazy to look things up or talk to real trans people and families. Joining the “just asking questions” crowd. It demonstrates, frankly, a serious lack of empathy and character.
It’s almost exactly how Republicans talk about climate change and vaccines. “I’m not a scientist, but my gut kind of says this thing no scientists agree with, so obviously we need to study this more.”
Another thing about this Newsom clip is that he's flat out misrepresenting cause and effect. He says that post-2020 there was some big explosion of new rights for trans people and trans people went overboard. That's not true! That's not true at all
Wow, sure sounds like MAGA talking points.
guy was asked to give his pronouns once in a zoom meeting and decided things had gone way too far
The key to understanding Newsom is that he is a fucking piece of shit.
This is absolutely project 2025 messaging. It's bullshit repeated again and again by shitty billionaires who got upset when they were required to give a shit about employees during covid. A good reason to keep rich people out of government and to regulate heavily against their hoarding.
and yet another thing about Newsom in that video is that he tries to cover his ass by saying he supports non-discrimination laws... while talking about changing what constitutes as discrimination in the first place.
Slimeball.
It's so unbelievably slimy and much deeper than sports.
So Unbelievably Slimy: The Gavin Newsom Story
He hates trans people. Big hugs Parker.
He’s a bigot but he’s also a complete idiot. There’s no way we should follow Democrats in a race to the bottom just to slake the personal ambition of haters and dumdums. Forget it.
Presumably he can name one? Just one.
I hope he goes the way of Scott Walker and Ron DeSantis - the second he steps out of his state he falls on his ratfucker face completely.
Someone should inform those children who have leukemia that they aren't informed enough to make a decision to receive treatment. They can wait until they're twenty-one.
The way this guy showed how much a hypocrite he was willing to be during COVID19, and some other things, I’ve realized he’s no kind of political leader to admire. Compounding reasons to dislike him seems to be a mission for him anymore.
Every single thing he does that anyone takes note of ends up being insincere.
It’s sure looking that way.
"children". I wouldn't even let my children get a tat until they were 18. I have no problem with making your children wait until their brains are, at least, mostly developed before letting them make a, literally, life changing decision.
Its crazy how white privilege really makes you stupid. "Yea... im gonna just hell MAGA win because trans stuff"
They’re all such sacks of shit. Can’t fucking wait to throw us under the bus. Every. Fucking. Time.
Anyone who thinks that the rights of disadvantaged or oppressed minorities are (at best) nothing more than bargaining chips should not be trusted to safeguard anybody's rights.
Voted for him too, and again in that stupid recall election (remember that?). No longer in CA but damn what a colossal disappointment. Burned through whatever goodwill he earned in his first term like a fucking sparkler. Eat shit, Newscum. Resign and go bro-podcast your heart out.
“The science of the issue, I haven’t delved that deep into it” you’re the governor of California, that’s gross negligence on your part if you haven’t had experts come in to educate you on it in the YEARS that it’s been a conservative talking point. Stop podcasting and start learning Gav
No shit he hasn’t
Yeah he needs to fucking delve into it. Withholding this care from these kids is going to shorten and diminish the quality of their lives. The ones who will survive it will likely have social issues and probable substance abuse problems. They will have a stunted and stifled experience of life.
@turban.bsky.social
@parkermolloy.com On the theme of Rahm Emmanuel, find another clone here…
Why does the f**king Cass report and the UK show up EVERYWHERE…
Because there aren't many countries corrupt enough to put out such an insanely rigged study, so they have to keep reusing the one they have.
TERFs built the anti-trans vehicle, and fascists world-wide merely rent that vehicle when it’s politically expedient. The Cass report was a transphobic tool commissioned for one purpose, and Newsom is just one politician who is using these tools.
And the fact it's just an ideological opinion piece gets completely ignored
It's literally the purpose of the report. It's not meant to be read, it's meant to be referred to as a token of legitimisation.
Definitely. They had zero science to back up their cause so they made some up.
He basically said he has no idea what he's talking about cause he can't comprehend what he's reading and doesn't know how to verify peer reviewed research. And then he cited the myth of the brain not being done developing til 26th, something everyone knows isn't a real scientific fact. Wow.
Liberals are weather vane politicians. Their direction moves with the political wind. Socially Liberal. Economically Conservative. That's the Third Way Corporatiism of Democrats.
They're not even socially liberal anymore. With how so many were happy to throw trans people under the bus when the political winds changed against us, they show theyre willing to throw any minority under the bus if they think public opinion has shifted on them.
Newsom is absolutely evil
my major problem with Newsom is he doesn't have any integrity. If he is willing to throw trans kids under the bus for what he considers political expediency, he'd be willing to do that for anyone
He's already done it for the homeless in CA. Because he and his buddies stand to make bank for the World Cup and Olympics. He's practically strangling the mayor of LA over it. Because she beat the guy who would have kept up his and the old mayor's scammy development deals. She said no new venues.
He has hated the homeless since 2000 or 2001 I’d have to check He said he woke up one day with an “epiphany” Started by taking their cash away, said they could only get services, but then didn’t do anything to fix the services
What the actual fuck does Democrat mean anymore? Democrats need to be liberal and progressive not 1990s Republicans.
Scratch the liberal part, I'm so fucking tired of them prioritizing the needs of the wealthy and businesses over literally anything else.
I'm not even convinced they're 2015 Republicans at this point.
why is he trying to look as fascist as possible
He might as well be honest about it.
Gavin also turned into a right wing misogynist, talking about a “crisis of masculinity” and he is literally encouraging his son, obsessed with and indoctrinated by far right figure Charlie Kirk, to become even more radicalized by hosting him and others. Im Confident he’s literally full Maga secretly
Shit father shit governor shit mayor shit everything
I think that it is important to consider that he may not be TURNING into a misogynist POS. He might have BEEN that all along and just wearing a progressive mask to win power. Look at who his ex-wife is. Look at his upbringing. He's an elite, and therefore much more likely to be conservative.
I can’t get over how insane it is - your son is throwing his life away to join a cult of bigoted misogynists, and you do nothing to stop it. You literally tell him about how you’re doing an interview with the cult to get him excited. It’s unimaginably incompetent parenting. Actually evil.
He'll say whatever he thinks a current audience wants to hear, and he's always been that way. One of the reasons I've always supported him, & respect most about him is he'd never tell one group something different than another. If you watch college footage of him, his remarks are similar today.
I assume the 2nd part of your comment is referring to Buttigieg, right? Just clarifying, bc your 1st part refers to Newsom and uses "he" -- but your 2nd part also uses "he/him/his" without specifying you're now (presumably) referring to Pete and no longer talking about Newsom 🙃
... adored him?
Gavin doesn’t need to do a ton “research”. Just ask your pediatrician!
Need cis people to stop acting like forcing kids through a puberty they are saying they don't want isn't a BIGGER MORE PERMNANENT choice than taking puberty blockers for a couple years
I bet all the people "on the left" who were bigging up this cunt feel really embarrassed now and will apologise - or na? Like it was only 2 fucking days ago now before he went back to full on hatemongering reich-whinge cunt. bsky.app/profile/ampa...
Most of them aren't actually left-wing, they're the blue-no-matter-who shitlibs. I tried bringing up what a treacherous squit Newsom is at the time, and they just whined about infighting.
Blue-no-matter-who* *except Mamdani
Yeah, we get the same in the UK with centrists who think they are left wing and yet spend all their time shitting on the left and then demand we vote for Labour no matter how hard Labour shit on us and then get angry we don't vote for the party shitting on us; blaming us for their inevitable defeat.
Starmer is a great example of why voting for the supposedly lesser evil is still evil. "Vote Labour or you'll get Reform!" Farage was literally criticising Starmer's "Island of Strangers" speech from the left on immigration.
We are all Schrodinger's Leftist: simultaneously not numerous enough to warrant a seat at the table or any say in decision-making, and so numerous that we're to blame whenever liberals lose an election.
adored
Gavin Newsom. Adored Gavin Newsom. She admits to having “adored” Gavin Newsom.
it's wild!
The Dems need to stop pandering to the fascist bigots and throwing the vulnerable under the bus. This isn't fucking hard.
@gavinnewsom.bsky.social you fucking prick
So if he runs for president and wins the primary, are you going to vote republican or just not vote at all?
I'm leaving the country because I'm fucked either way
The left is telling everyone now, y'all have 3 years to primary someone better than Newsom, for we will not be voting for that transphobic monster. So pick someone better instead of supporting someone who will definitely lose
I've rarely had the candidate I wanted win the primary. But if he does, would you hold your nose and vote for him or pass on voting? Whitmer 2028.
If it's Newsom up then we're already losing. Holding our noses and voting proved to not work with Harris or Hillary. Newsom winning means the same transphobia and antihomeless we've already been dealing with. So no, we have three years to primary anyone better and how we get there is by starting now
Newsom has burned his political career into ashes
gavin also said that he's against people wearing the color green in a different interview taken out of context that i didn't actually understand, but man i am furious
Blue MAGA is not OK
So lovely that this is how Gavin is choosing to spend his time while people are getting beat and disappeared left and right all across his state
He talks a big game but he doesn’t care He’s pro police and pro ICE
Newsom genuinely hates the state and its people.
People will say that we need to overlook this one issue to vote blue no matter who, but they fail to recognize that Gavin can be a terrible candidate for multiple reasons. If liberals never have to examine their beliefs and vote for a "lesser evil" then why do leftists constantly have to suck it up?
Voting for a lesser evil is how we keep getting evil politicians
He is also very much beholden to mega $$$
It's purity tests and gatekeeping like this that all but ensures Democratic losses. I understand he has upset you on a issue that's important to you, but don't overreact. Republicans win because they are unified, and focused like a laser beam. One who are not are ejected.
He's a bigot. This is not about ideological purity. It's about being a decent fucking human being.
This person apparently believes Newsom is the only viable candidate for 2028?? Now I’m a Russian troll for saying that’s stupid
So, let's shitcan him so a Republican can take his place. Brilliant.
Lets shit can him in 2028 discussions so Pritzker can take his place nationally. That's actually brilliant. Also you're assuming the rules still apply and that this is electoral politics as usual. I have some news on that score.
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This is absurd. He’s not some deity that can’t be passed over for someone who’s not a gross person willing to slash the rights of a minority. Shitcan him now, yes, so he’s not even a choice in 2028.
You should know, I'm muting all of you. I don't know if you're working for a Russian Troll Farm, or some Right Wing Think Tank, but... Buh bye. This line of thinking is either batshit delusional, or agitprop. Buh bye.
Do you think its already 2028
Maybe it’s Gavin?
Lmao you think Newsom is already the candidate? Good lord
He is just as bad as Trump He yelled on social media about Trump cutting Medicaid while doing the same thing, a year after he expanded it He also wants to make cuts to public transportation a year after he threw money into it He’s a flip flopper and has been since day one. He can’t be trusted
How about telling him to fuck off and let better people run? Yet another republican-lite dem isn't going to fix anything and are more and more unpopular. Let someone like AOC be the candidate and rally around her instead of continuing the losing strat of neolib candidates
When the “issue” is human rights, that’s a dealbreaker, because it means anyone’s rights are violable. He’s a snake. Republicans are not going to come around and help elect a moderate. They like their extreme. We have literally never tried ours.
Sigh. You do you. I'd rather have him than any, any Republican. I'm done with this.
But why when he believes exactly the things that make Republicans unelectable to any decent person? The problem isnt D or R lmao. The problem is belief and action.
the primaries are years away, now is the time to vet people. Wouldn't you rather that we decide on the best candidate now, before divisive issues come up in the general? If Newsom is already offending a big portion of our base, that's a big problem! We don't need to give people a reason to stay home
It must be nice having the privilege to sacrifice those being stomped on by Newsom for the sake of your comfortability when he's just gonna be the same trash as Trump
He's anti human rights. No other issue matters like that one. Its not even close.
If you're willing to watch the children of my demographic be tortured to death, there is absolutely nothing I would do for you that isn't entirely self-interested. We do not belong to a shared society in that scenario. You are the cancer that lives next door and nothing else.
Voting for Blue Trump will not help anyone, this isn't a purity test, it's having standards above the current fascism we're dealing with. Maybe listen to others, support any of the better candidates, and stop insisting that we're wrong for standing up for human rights
Newsom: "I haven't dove too deeply into it." THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULD SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT AND LET FAMILIES AND DOCTORS DECIDE WHAT'S BEST! He's such a disingenuous shit. He's "against discrimination" but somehow still unsure if trans kids should get the widely recommended healthcare they need.
It's all political bullshit. He's trying to walk the tightrope of not pissing off too many liberals or conservatives, so he can get lots of votes nationally. He can seem understanding of "both sides." He's nauseating.
"I haven't dove deeply" (Proceeds to repeat a debunked right wing talking point about the brain)
He found his on ramp to fascism
Can't join the military until you are 27
did you clip this yourself? would you mind terribly emailing me this clip? (for attribution if you'd like?)
Yea, I clipped myself. Where do you want me to send it?
Just tag @down.blue and it will give you a download link
⬇️ Sure! Press here to download it!
He’s done! He’s cooked! Let’s move on!
Imagine if children were denied all healthcare on the basis of the "What if because puberty" nonsense argument. And there are people on the right who hold this position. No braces, no glasses, no vaccines, no antibiotics, no tonsillectomy, no chemo...
And most of them are "pro-life." God forbid you choose to terminate for anacephaly (no brain) but once the kid is born feel free to deny life saving medical care all you want.
Puberty blockers can/are used for other things for children...
You just know someone corrected him on what pronouns they use and he took that incredibly personally
It’s going to boil down to him and Vance. Then what? Yikes.
Why can't they understand that GAC for trans youth is the solution to the sports issue!! If trans kids only go through the puberty that correlates with their actual gender, there's no difference between them and anyone else of that gender.
this is why cis people oppose GAC for trans youth, though
But then they can’t do what they actually want to do: hurt trans people. It’s not really about fairness or privacy or whatever, those are all fig leaves. At the end of the day, this is about people who want to hurt trans people, and will use whatever tool they can to do so.
With this fucking logic kids shouldn't be allowed to do anything until they are 18. Pick subjects in highschool? Forget about it! Get any other surgery? Nope! Appendix hurting you? Well too bad. You are keeping it until you are 18! Your doctor says it would be great to remove it? Well too bad.
Children under 18 cannot legally consent to an appendectomy.
No but their parents can.
Correct, but it seemed to me that you might be insinuating children have the mental capacity to make permanent life altering decisions like getting a tattoo. 🤔
someone needs to fucking sit his ass down and actually explain to him about this stuff. he is actively destroying himself on this topic. does he not have people near him saying that he needs to FUCKING BACKTRACK ON THIS SHIT?
So him vs a republican for president. You’re not going to vote for him?
How well did running a Diet Republican against a full fat Republican work in 2024 or 2016?
I’m trans. You want us to support someone who wants to build a country without room for us in it. I will not do so, regardless of whether that’s a blue or a red candidate.
Cool. Then republicans will win again, and again, and again
cool, maybe it's time to try running D that anyone wants to vote for instead blaming voters for not wanting to deep throat the boot while it's standing on them
They already do. And frankly, fuck you for caring more about winning than about human rights.
you got your dream campaign of throwing those icky minorities you hate under the bus to appeal to republicans last year, friend. you promised big strong Mr. Trump you'd build his wall and kill every palestinian Netanyahu told you to. what part of that plan was so successful you want to repeat it.
My cousin is trans, In a huge trumpy family. I’m literally the only family member she can talk to. But I like winning elections. And if a dem is 100% on board YET. They are still 1000 times better in trans issues than any republican asshole. That’s all I’m trying to say.
if Dems keep losing because the minorities they obviously don't care about won't vote for them, then the Dems need to actually fucking earn those votes back that's what campaigning *is*
Oh gosh they have a trans cousin! They deffo must be more right than an actual trans woman saying that slow-walking to genocide with transphobic Dems is still bad! Bud. Pal. Friend. Listen to me: I will not vote for a transphobe. No matter how inconvenient it is to people with more flexible values.
i get that there's a caste of red-state Dem who would gladly sacrifice ANYTHING to free themselves of the pain of being ruled by Republicans. the thing they need to be broken of is the idea that if they just submit enough to their republican friends, that's going to change any part of that equation.
what part about you saying "i will gladly kill my cousin to try to make Donald Trump give me a pat on the head for being a good dog" do you think is going to win you anything, friend. you tried that last year, remember. your reward for killing those people for him was him kicking you in the teeth.
What are you talking about? I’m 100% on all trans people sides. But a lot of people aren’t. Which I think is fucked up. But I’m not going to throw away the entire government cause the nominee isn’t 100% great on that issue. Or any issue
you got your dream strategy, trying precisely that, last year, friend. did it succeed. or did it lead Democrats to the single worst failure they've experienced since 1988.
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“Or any issue”. Anyone in a blue cap will do.
I will drive this country straight into The Hague as long as it’s got the blue bumper sticker on the back!
i wouldn’t personally because i’d be booking tickets to ireland and writing off my home country as inhospitable to trans people like myself, yeah
So if they are 100% on board with how you think. Your a no, right? Did you vote for Obama in 2008 when he was against gay marriage?
i was 8 i was probably playing my PS2 at the time
if the next democratic nominee can’t clear the bar of “not capitulating to the fascists at literally every opportunity” then there literally is not a point of voting for them. fixing this country needs grit and a spine
they don’t have to agree with me on literally everything but “not antagonizing literal children trying to live as themselves” is a pretty low bar to clear, lol
Well, republicans want trans people not to exist anymore. He just doesn’t want them to play sports. I don’t agree with him, but I’m not going to vote because of it.
if you read the post you would notice he also said it made him “change his mind on GAC for children” he’s buying into the hate cynically. what other lies peddled by the far right would he buy into? does that not scare you? why do you feel the need to fall in line before they even roll call?
have some self respect you fucking dweeb. draw a line in the sand now.
you’re doing the lesser of two evils thing but this election hasn’t even been set yet. it’s 3 years away. don’t you want someone who isn’t evil at all?
you’re* a transphobe
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Thank you. And no I’m not.
"I don't *want* anti-trans laws, I'm just not at all bothered by them"
Stop derailing with hypothetical future scenarios. Erosion of trans rights is happening right now, if you don't want to talk about it that's fine but let everyone else stay on topic thanks
